Hey all,
Strange thing happened. After my last hibernate, Windows will not boot. After a few attempts to fix via Safemode, Hiren�s boot CD with MBR utilities, and a startup repair, my Win 7 partition is no longer listed in the MBR.
How can I get it back, or should I just reformat?
Strange thing happened. After my last hibernate, Windows will not boot. After a few attempts to fix via Safemode, Hiren�s boot CD with MBR utilities, and a startup repair, my Win 7 partition is no longer listed in the MBR.
How can I get it back, or should I just reformat?
can you run windows in "Save Mode" ?
�� Quote: Originally Posted by lorddenis 
can you run windows in "Save Mode" ?
Reboot your PC. Press and hold down F8 until you see the Advanced Boot Options screen. Choose the option 'Safe Mode with Command Prompt'. Enter the commands once you're in.
Found this article:
Partition recovery - understanding and recovering partitions.
maybe that will help you.
Partition recovery - understanding and recovering partitions.
maybe that will help you.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by frzwin7 Reboot your PC. Press and hold down F8 until you see the Advanced Boot Options screen. Choose the option 'Safe Mode with Command Prompt'. Enter the commands.
Update: Ok, I'm into Safe mode with command via (F4).
What directory do I need to enter these commands into, because I keep getting a cmd"is not recognized as an internal or external command..." error. I have tried in C:\, C:\Windows\System32
also, some people have listed the commands on here as Bootrec and some with bootrec. Which is correct?
�� Quote: Originally Posted by nabilalk �� Quote: Originally Posted by frzwin7 Reboot your PC. Press and hold down F8 until you see the Advanced Boot Options screen. Choose the option 'Safe Mode with Command Prompt'. Enter the commands.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by frzwin7 �� Quote: Originally Posted by nabilalk �� Quote: Originally Posted by frzwin7 Reboot your PC. Press and hold down F8 until you see the Advanced Boot Options screen. Choose the option 'Safe Mode with Command Prompt'. Enter the commands.
Hi All,
For some unknown reason I have lost my MBR and Windows won't start
The partitions I have are:
Disk 0 Partition 1: System Reserved 100MB
Disk 0 Partition 2: Windows partition 50.8GB
Disk 0 Partition 3: Docs 247.2GB
Disk 1 Partition 1: Backup
How can I get Windows to recognize Disk 0 Partition 2 as the Windows partition and boot off that? Do I have to reformat?
I have Hiren's bootCD if anyone knows how I can use it, or I can rebuild the MBR from scratch, just could use some help.
Thanks!
For some unknown reason I have lost my MBR and Windows won't start
The partitions I have are:
Disk 0 Partition 1: System Reserved 100MB
Disk 0 Partition 2: Windows partition 50.8GB
Disk 0 Partition 3: Docs 247.2GB
Disk 1 Partition 1: Backup
How can I get Windows to recognize Disk 0 Partition 2 as the Windows partition and boot off that? Do I have to reformat?
I have Hiren's bootCD if anyone knows how I can use it, or I can rebuild the MBR from scratch, just could use some help.
Thanks!
Hello nabilalk.
Before we make any specific recommendations will you please post a snip/screen-shot of the entire disk management drive map with a full description as to which drive/partition is which, so we can see what you have going on as there may be a fairly simple way to resolve the situation.
In the Windows start menu right click computer and click manage, in the left pane of the "Computer Management" window that opens click disk management and post a snip of that.
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Before we make any specific recommendations will you please post a snip/screen-shot of the entire disk management drive map with a full description as to which drive/partition is which, so we can see what you have going on as there may be a fairly simple way to resolve the situation.
In the Windows start menu right click computer and click manage, in the left pane of the "Computer Management" window that opens click disk management and post a snip of that.
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�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid Hello nabilalk.
Before we make any specific recommendations will you please post a snip/screen-shot of the entire disk management drive map with a full description as to which drive/partition is which, so we can see what you have going on as there may be a fairly simple way to resolve the situation.
In the Windows start menu right click computer and click manage, in the left pane of the "Computer Management" window that opens click disk management and post a snip of that.
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Before we make any specific recommendations will you please post a snip/screen-shot of the entire disk management drive map with a full description as to which drive/partition is which, so we can see what you have going on as there may be a fairly simple way to resolve the situation.
In the Windows start menu right click computer and click manage, in the left pane of the "Computer Management" window that opens click disk management and post a snip of that.
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OK, I wasn't sure the snip just makes it easier to 'see' what's going on.
The issue is the partition that that you need to create the new boot files to has to be marked as "Active" so the repair utility will know where to create the new boot files to.
Is there a reason you don't want the "System Reserved" partition to continue as the boot partition as it was originally created for?
The issue is the partition that that you need to create the new boot files to has to be marked as "Active" so the repair utility will know where to create the new boot files to.
Is there a reason you don't want the "System Reserved" partition to continue as the boot partition as it was originally created for?
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid OK, I wasn't sure the snip just makes it easier to 'see' what's going on.
The issue is the partition that that you need to create the new boot files to has to be marked as "Active" so the repair utility will know where to create the new boot files to.
Is there a reason you don't want the "System Reserved" partition to continue as the boot partition as it was originally created for?
The issue is the partition that that you need to create the new boot files to has to be marked as "Active" so the repair utility will know where to create the new boot files to.
Is there a reason you don't want the "System Reserved" partition to continue as the boot partition as it was originally created for?
Have a look at Option Two to start in this tutorial at the link below.
Do use the "System, Reserved" partition as that's what it's for.
Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times
Do use the "System, Reserved" partition as that's what it's for.
Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid Have a look at Option Two to start in this tutorial at the link below.
Do use the "System, Reserved" partition as that's what it's for.
Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times
Do use the "System, Reserved" partition as that's what it's for.
Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times
The 100MB system partition that should be listed as Partition 1 of Disk 0 is missing. There is only 1 partition listed and its 298GB. Which is strange since in the drive map I posted, there was a 100MB system partition when I went to the Windows install menu. I have noticed that when using other disk partition tools, like Gparted, only the 298 GB partition was listed and only disk 0 was listed. When I went to the Win 7 install menu, 2 disks were listed and all of the partitions for each.
OK then see if you can mark the Windows Disk 0 partition 2 as active and do the 3 startup repairs talked about in the tutorial to get it booting; any idea what may have happened, just because I'm curious?
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid OK then see if you can mark the Windows Disk 0 partition 2 as active and do the 3 startup repairs talked about in the tutorial to get it booting; any idea what may have happened, just because I'm curious?
As to what caused this no idea. Last night i was using my computer, I hibernated it, and when I started it this morning, it wouldn't boot.
Sorry about that mate, I realized that after I posted.
Mark that as active and see if that will do it, don't forget to do the startup repairs.
Mark that as active and see if that will do it, don't forget to do the startup repairs.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid Sorry about that mate, I realized that after I posted.
Mark that as active and see if that will do it, don't forget to do the startup repairs.
Mark that as active and see if that will do it, don't forget to do the startup repairs.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid OK I'll be here.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid OK I'll be here.
It takes at least 3 and sometime 4 successive startup repairs with a system restart between each repair to create a new set of boot files to the new location.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid It takes at least 3 and sometime 4 successive startup repairs with a system restart between each repair to create a new set of boot files to the new location.
Do you actually have more than 1 Hard Disk Drive (HDD) connected in the PC?
If so you may have to disconnect the other HDD and leave only the one you want to do the startup repairs to, then you may have to start over and mark that as "Active" and then do the startup repairs.
See why when a snip of disk management (if available) is so helpful?
If so you may have to disconnect the other HDD and leave only the one you want to do the startup repairs to, then you may have to start over and mark that as "Active" and then do the startup repairs.
See why when a snip of disk management (if available) is so helpful?
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid Do you actually have more than 1 Hard Disk Drive (HDD) connected in the PC?
If so you may have to disconnect the other HDD and leave only the one you want to do the startup repairs to, then you may have to start over and mark that as "Active" and then do the startup repairs.
See why when a snip of disk management (if available) is so helpful?
If so you may have to disconnect the other HDD and leave only the one you want to do the startup repairs to, then you may have to start over and mark that as "Active" and then do the startup repairs.
See why when a snip of disk management (if available) is so helpful?
Yes sometime that is necessary to get it to create the boot files to the new location.
Sometime a second partition/HDD gets marked active through some kind of error and having 2 actives makes life very difficult when this process is needed.
We'll be here, do remember to post back with an update.
Sometime a second partition/HDD gets marked active through some kind of error and having 2 actives makes life very difficult when this process is needed.
We'll be here, do remember to post back with an update.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid Yes sometime that is necessary to get it to create the boot files to the new location.
Sometime a second partition/HDD gets marked active through some kind of error and having 2 actives makes life very difficult when this process is needed.
We'll be here, do remember to post back with an update.
Sometime a second partition/HDD gets marked active through some kind of error and having 2 actives makes life very difficult when this process is needed.
We'll be here, do remember to post back with an update.
Disconnected the 2nd HD and was able to reboot in Windows. I then reconnected the 2nd HD and restarted in Windows again.
This problem occurred after I Hibernated last night. The only thing I can think of is that Hibernate set my HDs to use really low power. When I woke up the computer, the BIOS got confused which HD to boot off of and it selected the 2nd HD (storage device) rather than the 1st with the System and Windows partitions.
The second thing I noticed is that the SATA cable I have has two branches. One was connected to each HD. I don't know if it makes a difference, but I switched the branches because one of them looks like the main trunk and the other looks like a branch off the main.
Maybe because the main trunk was set to the 2nd HD, my BIOS saw that as the Primary Master and the 1st HD which actually has Windows on it as the Slave. Is there a difference in the SATA cables like one branch is always supposed to be main and the other is slave?
Is my theory plausible or can anyone else offer a possible cause of this?
First, I want to say I'm glad you got back in and thanks for the update. 
Now I'm going to read the rest of your post to see if I can help with an explanation but if others have ideas be sure to post because I'm often clueless.
Now I'm going to read the rest of your post to see if I can help with an explanation but if others have ideas be sure to post because I'm often clueless.
Please post back a screenshot of your full Disk Management drive map and listings. Use Snipping Tool in Start Menu.
It's possible your System partition was derailed to the data drive. It needs to be checked to see if it is still marked System Active.
Then we need to see what partition is now marked System Active on the WIn7 HD since its partitioning was unclear in DISKPART prior to repair.
It's possible your System partition was derailed to the data drive. It needs to be checked to see if it is still marked System Active.
Then we need to see what partition is now marked System Active on the WIn7 HD since its partitioning was unclear in DISKPART prior to repair.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker Please post back a screenshot of your full Disk Management drive map and listings. Use Snipping Tool in Start Menu.
It's possible your System partition was derailed to the data drive. It needs to be checked to see if it is still marked System Active.
Then we need to see what partition is now marked System Active on the WIn7 HD since its partitioning was unclear in DISKPART prior to repair.
It's possible your System partition was derailed to the data drive. It needs to be checked to see if it is still marked System Active.
Then we need to see what partition is now marked System Active on the WIn7 HD since its partitioning was unclear in DISKPART prior to repair.
How do I take care of the second step you are talking about with DISKPART?
The way is shown in my snip below.
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�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid Any thoughts on my theory as to why this problem occurred after the hibernate in the first place?
It likely happened because Zenith was marked Active which confused or corrupted the MBR.
We see this here all the time with random partitions marked Active.
We see this here all the time with random partitions marked Active.
Hello again mate, sorry I got side-tracked earlier.
As I mentioned earlier a lot of different people have a second get marked active quite often, I've even had one do so without my ever finding the reason as do a lot of others; just chalk one up and remember the remedy.
As I mentioned earlier a lot of different people have a second get marked active quite often, I've even had one do so without my ever finding the reason as do a lot of others; just chalk one up and remember the remedy.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker It likely happened because Zenith was marked Active and confused or corrupted the MBR. We see this here all the time with random partitions marked Active.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by nabilalk �� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker It likely happened because Zenith was marked Active and confused or corrupted the MBR. We see this here all the time with random partitions marked Active.
How do you know, you couldn't boot into Windows?
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid �� Quote: Originally Posted by nabilalk �� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker It likely happened because Zenith was marked Active and confused or corrupted the MBR. We see this here all the time with random partitions marked Active.
How do you know, you couldn't boot into Windows?
You were trying to do a startup repair to a system with 2 active partitions, active is the flag that tells the repair procedure where to create the "new" boot files and that caused the confusion.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid You were trying to do a startup repair to a system with 2 active partitions, active is the flag that tells the repair procedure where to create the "new" boot files and that caused the confusion.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid You were trying to do a startup repair to a system with 2 active partitions, active is the flag that tells the repair procedure where to create the "new" boot files and that caused the confusion.
You are welcome; this is why we ask for a snip of disk management whenever possible, saves the confusion we (you and I) had.
The instructions were confusing as to which partition on Disk0 to mark Active because DISKPART was giving you bad readouts from what you reported.
At this point, you should be asked to Detail Partition on each Disk0 partition so we could verify it intact and whether it is marked Active:
Once it's confirmed that 100mb or Win7 partition is marked Active, then run the Repairs with all other HD's unplugged - unless you want to detail each of the other HD's partitions to see if they are incorrectly marked Active.
At this point, you should be asked to Detail Partition on each Disk0 partition so we could verify it intact and whether it is marked Active:
Once it's confirmed that 100mb or Win7 partition is marked Active, then run the Repairs with all other HD's unplugged - unless you want to detail each of the other HD's partitions to see if they are incorrectly marked Active.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid �� Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid You were trying to do a startup repair to a system with 2 active partitions, active is the flag that tells the repair procedure where to create the "new" boot files and that caused the confusion.
You are welcome; this is why we ask for a snip of disk management whenever possible, saves the confusion we (you and I) had.
Greg just listed the other way to figure it out above but few understand all that and I decided to forgo that to see if the way we did it would yield results then that was the next order of business.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker The instructions were confusing as to which partition on Disk0 to mark Active because DISKPART was giving you bad readouts from what you reported.
At this point, you should be asked to Detail Partition on each Disk0 partition so we could verify it intact and whether it is marked Active:
Attachment 100252
Once it's confirmed that 100mb or Win7 partition is marked Active, then run the Repairs with all other HD's unplugged - unless you want to detail each of the other HD's partitions to see if they are incorrectly marked Active.
At this point, you should be asked to Detail Partition on each Disk0 partition so we could verify it intact and whether it is marked Active:
Attachment 100252
Once it's confirmed that 100mb or Win7 partition is marked Active, then run the Repairs with all other HD's unplugged - unless you want to detail each of the other HD's partitions to see if they are incorrectly marked Active.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid Greg just listed the other way to figure it out above but few understand all that and I decided to forgo that to see if the way we did it would yield results then that was the next order of business.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker �� Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid Greg just listed the other way to figure it out above but few understand all that and I decided to forgo that to see if the way we did it would yield results then that was the next order of business.
Those are both good, I'll remember them, especially the PW one.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker �� Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid Greg just listed the other way to figure it out above but few understand all that and I decided to forgo that to see if the way we did it would yield results then that was the next order of business.
I tried, PW, Gparted, and ran a couple of tools off of Hiren's. Only Win 7 showed what was really going on. Strange no? I did type out the drivemap in my first post that Win 7 showed me. But I guess that detail was not enough to figure out exactly what the specific issue was.
PS: It's so much nicer to be able to discuss this issue after it's been solved rather than before when I was freaking out!
Nothing like this then eh?
Barefoot called it for the fix here, removing DISK1 interference:
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid Good work, Barefoot, and with bad Diskpart output.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid Do you actually have more than 1 Hard Disk Drive (HDD) connected in the PC?
If so you may have to disconnect the other HDD and leave only the one you want to do the startup repairs to, then you may have to start over and mark that as "Active" and then do the startup repairs.
See why when a snip of disk management (if available) is so helpful?
If so you may have to disconnect the other HDD and leave only the one you want to do the startup repairs to, then you may have to start over and mark that as "Active" and then do the startup repairs.
See why when a snip of disk management (if available) is so helpful?
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid Thanks Greg, I appreciate the compliment. 
�� Quote: Originally Posted by nabilalk �� Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid I chose that particular snip to show one of the other things PW is capable of.
Have a look at these.
Partition Wizard : Use the Bootable CD
Dual Boot : Create Partitions Using PWBD
Partition : Recover Space Used by an Older OS
�� Quote: Originally Posted by nabilalk I tried, PW, Gparted, and ran a couple of tools off of Hiren's. Only Win 7 showed what was really going on. Strange no? I did type out the drivemap in my first post that Win 7 showed me. But I guess that detail was not enough to figure out exactly what the specific issue was.
Run Disk Check
Then test the HD using maker's diag/repair CD scan: http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=287
Hirens is dated with Win7 - PW boot CD is the best tool we've found. I would trust it over Disk Mgmt too hence the need for tests.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker �� Quote: Originally Posted by nabilalk I tried, PW, Gparted, and ran a couple of tools off of Hiren's. Only Win 7 showed what was really going on. Strange no? I did type out the drivemap in my first post that Win 7 showed me. But I guess that detail was not enough to figure out exactly what the specific issue was.
Run Disk Check
Then test the HD using maker's diag/repair CD scan: Hard Drive Diagnostics Tools and Utilities (Storage) - TACKtech Corp.
Hirens is dated with Win7 - PW boot CD is the best tool we've found. I would trust it over Disk Mgmt too hence the need for tests.
There is a link in any of the tutorials I posted links to in the post above.
I am a novice at understanding Acronis, MBR's, etc.
BUT
I did have to use Acronis a few times to replace my system with that image. I chose all 3, MBR, System Reserved and C.
Is that where I lost Hibernate?
Should I have only chosen drive C?
I still have that image. Is it still fixable?
BUT
I did have to use Acronis a few times to replace my system with that image. I chose all 3, MBR, System Reserved and C.
Is that where I lost Hibernate?
Should I have only chosen drive C?
I still have that image. Is it still fixable?
�� Quote: Originally Posted by seekandfind I am a novice at understanding Acronis, MBR's, etc.
BUT
I did have to use Acronis a few times to replace my system with that image. I chose all 3, MBR, System Reserved and C.
Is that where I lost Hibernate?
Should I have only chosen drive C?
I still have that image. Is it still fixable?
BUT
I did have to use Acronis a few times to replace my system with that image. I chose all 3, MBR, System Reserved and C.
Is that where I lost Hibernate?
Should I have only chosen drive C?
I still have that image. Is it still fixable?
I appreciate your response. I did post I believe 3 differning threads and no one responded to any of the issues. Thanks
�� Quote: Originally Posted by seekandfind I appreciate your response. I did post I believe 3 differning threads and no one responded to any of the issues. Thanks
I'll tell you why, you put your questions at the end of solved threads and no-one sees them, just like in this instance; if you want answers you need to start YOUR OWN threads and not tag onto someone else's.
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