In honor of the 40th anniversary of the moon 'landings' i thought it would be fun to take our minds away from windows 7 for a bit and try and figure out if man actually set foot on the moon.
Here is a good site with some decent points:
The Apollo Hoax?
Personally i have my doubts. What do you guys think?
Here is a good site with some decent points:
The Apollo Hoax?
Personally i have my doubts. What do you guys think?
Im sorry, but as soon as I found out the Jose Escamilia was involved with the "evidence" being presented, that was all I needed to know... This is the Nutter who claims that "rods" zip through the air --==> Clicky
I could be wrong but he isn't the guy that invented the moon conspiracy theory
Yep he's the one .. I've listened to him on Coast to Coast quite a few times ...
Get a life. Armstrong, Aldrin and all the US astronauts were heroes, as were the techs and scientists who achieved this wonderful feat.
To suggest this was a hoax is utterly stupid for any Win7 user!
There isn't a single claimed reason why the landing was staged that hasn't been thoroughly debunked by a legion of clear thinking scientists.
Let alone to ask the rather obvious question as to how thousands of patriotic honest god fearing Americans would lie for 40 years and NOT ONE would crack and say that it was a hoax.
Bunkum. Haven't we got better things to spend our time on?
To suggest this was a hoax is utterly stupid for any Win7 user!
There isn't a single claimed reason why the landing was staged that hasn't been thoroughly debunked by a legion of clear thinking scientists.
Let alone to ask the rather obvious question as to how thousands of patriotic honest god fearing Americans would lie for 40 years and NOT ONE would crack and say that it was a hoax.
Bunkum. Haven't we got better things to spend our time on?
I like some conspiracy theories...
But man really walked on the moon... that's a fact...
Let's see in 2018 with Constellation Mission back to moon and show the footprints and all the evidences...
But man really walked on the moon... that's a fact...
Let's see in 2018 with Constellation Mission back to moon and show the footprints and all the evidences...
i believe man DID in fact walk on the moon. however i dont think it was in the 60's like they say. like late 80's probably, just to do it. in the 60's it was a race, now nobody gives a crap. "oh wow! the moon! ..... lets go to the mall!"
booo-weeee-hooooo (O_O)
booo-weeee-hooooo (O_O)
"One sceptic on the Bad astronomy sceptics web group has even said it is a hair??? on both the rock and ground? Now who's trying to cover things up?"
On the film maybe? hehe
"Some of the lighting on 'official NASA film' are very suspect. The NASA picture to the left should show the astronaut in complete shadow because the sun is behind him, and yet the whole of the astronaut is caught in bright light? The shot should appear like the one on the right which was simulated by David Percy."
Light reflected off the moons surface. :P
And i thought of that in 2 seconds....
On the film maybe? hehe
"Some of the lighting on 'official NASA film' are very suspect. The NASA picture to the left should show the astronaut in complete shadow because the sun is behind him, and yet the whole of the astronaut is caught in bright light? The shot should appear like the one on the right which was simulated by David Percy."
Light reflected off the moons surface. :P
And i thought of that in 2 seconds....
Man did land on the moon. End of discussion. I wish these discussions would die away.
Haha, why? It's fun to poke sceptics.
Hi all
We've had some "Moon Sandwiches" which really DOES prove that the moon is made up of Green Cheese and that Hollywood still rules the Appollo missions.
Seriously guys what a shame that even now after 40 years we still only have the "boring Dinosaur Technology" of the Space Shuttle - which hasn't had anything new in it since Concorde days.
We should at least have a settlement on Mars now -- had Earth worked together on these projects we could possibly have avoided wars like Vietnam, IRAQ, Afghanistan etc and Japan, India, China etc would aslo have become involved. We probably would have avoided the current recession as well and discovered more useful sources of Green Energy etc.
40 years wasted IMO -- at least they are thinking about reviving some of these programs -- Real jobs --better than pourin g Trillions into the Bankers greedy mits -- and just loook at the Bonuses Goldman Sachs are gettin g this year AFTER being rescued by US Federal Govt.
Cheers
jimbo
We've had some "Moon Sandwiches" which really DOES prove that the moon is made up of Green Cheese and that Hollywood still rules the Appollo missions.
Seriously guys what a shame that even now after 40 years we still only have the "boring Dinosaur Technology" of the Space Shuttle - which hasn't had anything new in it since Concorde days.
We should at least have a settlement on Mars now -- had Earth worked together on these projects we could possibly have avoided wars like Vietnam, IRAQ, Afghanistan etc and Japan, India, China etc would aslo have become involved. We probably would have avoided the current recession as well and discovered more useful sources of Green Energy etc.
40 years wasted IMO -- at least they are thinking about reviving some of these programs -- Real jobs --better than pourin g Trillions into the Bankers greedy mits -- and just loook at the Bonuses Goldman Sachs are gettin g this year AFTER being rescued by US Federal Govt.
Cheers
jimbo
Hi all
We've had some "Moon Sandwiches" which really DOES prove that the moon is made up of Green Cheese and that Hollywood still rules the Appollo missions.
Seriously guys what a shame that even now after 40 years we still only have the "boring Dinosaur Technology" of the Space Shuttle - which hasn't had anything new in it since Concorde days.
We should at least have a settlement on Mars now -- had Earth worked together on these projects we could possibly have avoided wars like Vietnam, IRAQ, Afghanistan etc and Japan, India, China etc would aslo have become involved. We probably would have avoided the current recession as well and discovered more useful sources of Green Energy etc.
40 years wasted IMO -- at least they are thinking about reviving some of these programs -- Real jobs --better than pourin g Trillions into the Bankers greedy mits -- and just loook at the Bonuses Goldman Sachs are gettin g this year AFTER being rescued by US Federal Govt.
Cheers
jimbo
We've had some "Moon Sandwiches" which really DOES prove that the moon is made up of Green Cheese and that Hollywood still rules the Appollo missions.
Seriously guys what a shame that even now after 40 years we still only have the "boring Dinosaur Technology" of the Space Shuttle - which hasn't had anything new in it since Concorde days.
We should at least have a settlement on Mars now -- had Earth worked together on these projects we could possibly have avoided wars like Vietnam, IRAQ, Afghanistan etc and Japan, India, China etc would aslo have become involved. We probably would have avoided the current recession as well and discovered more useful sources of Green Energy etc.
40 years wasted IMO -- at least they are thinking about reviving some of these programs -- Real jobs --better than pourin g Trillions into the Bankers greedy mits -- and just loook at the Bonuses Goldman Sachs are gettin g this year AFTER being rescued by US Federal Govt.
Cheers
jimbo
I wouldn't doubt at all that some PR genius at the time came up with doctored or fake images for the press because it looked more like what they wanted to show. But there's way too much real time, effort, budget and collateral evidence, including several missions, to make this a hoax. Anybody who has witnessed a Saturn 5 lift-off just knows .
This was all fake just to show that they are ahead of USSR in astronomy.
*sarcasm* Of course it's all a hoax. The pictures the astronauts took show that the Earth is round. Everyone knows the Earth is flat. *sarcasm*
I never doubted the landing and still really don't, but this week was the anniversary week of the moon landing, and something odd struck me.
I watched some 4 hours of documentaries, and one piece of footage keeps puzzling me.
There is one film shot showing the lunar module leaving the moon.
The shot is taken from the moon. And more surprising is that the camera is tracking the takeoff and even zooming in.
What puzzles me is how the camera could move and zoom without anybody operating it?
Or did they have some kind of remote on the camera?
How could one operate the remote so perfectly keeping the module in perfect view and focus, while being ejected with incredible speed off the moon?
And would they have time for operating a camera while being busy ejecting of the moon?
If it wasn't manually done, was the camera preprogrammed?
There were no computers in those days small enough to fit in a camera, so how did that work?
That camera also would have had to have a broadcasting device.
How would the footage otherwise find it's way to earth?
That must have been one hell of a sophisticated camera.
I don't believe or don't want to believe the moon landing didn't happen.
I would be shocked because it is one of my earliest memories.
I was 3 yrs old, but I remember watching it with my family in front of the black and white tv.
I didn't understand then what I was watching, but I did remember it.
The moving and zooming camera is a mystery to me.
Maybe one of you could shed some light on it.
this is the link to the footage on youtube.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOdzhQS_MMw"]YouTube - Last Humans on the Moon[/ame]
Greetz
I watched some 4 hours of documentaries, and one piece of footage keeps puzzling me.
There is one film shot showing the lunar module leaving the moon.
The shot is taken from the moon. And more surprising is that the camera is tracking the takeoff and even zooming in.
What puzzles me is how the camera could move and zoom without anybody operating it?
Or did they have some kind of remote on the camera?
How could one operate the remote so perfectly keeping the module in perfect view and focus, while being ejected with incredible speed off the moon?
And would they have time for operating a camera while being busy ejecting of the moon?
If it wasn't manually done, was the camera preprogrammed?
There were no computers in those days small enough to fit in a camera, so how did that work?
That camera also would have had to have a broadcasting device.
How would the footage otherwise find it's way to earth?
That must have been one hell of a sophisticated camera.
I don't believe or don't want to believe the moon landing didn't happen.
I would be shocked because it is one of my earliest memories.
I was 3 yrs old, but I remember watching it with my family in front of the black and white tv.
I didn't understand then what I was watching, but I did remember it.
The moving and zooming camera is a mystery to me.
Maybe one of you could shed some light on it.
this is the link to the footage on youtube.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOdzhQS_MMw"]YouTube - Last Humans on the Moon[/ame]
Greetz
Hahahaha! Thanks for the link and the laugh. I always enjoy reading conspiracy theories for the sheer entertainment value.
It's all too easy to fall into that trap of believing theories because one finds possible fault or unknowns in something presented to them by anyone with authority. The human mind loves to fill in the gaps and make conclusions by stringing together these 'unknowns' to prove/disprove something. However, it is much more amusing to see this happen to someone else.
It's all too easy to fall into that trap of believing theories because one finds possible fault or unknowns in something presented to them by anyone with authority. The human mind loves to fill in the gaps and make conclusions by stringing together these 'unknowns' to prove/disprove something. However, it is much more amusing to see this happen to someone else.
Unfortunately it isn't a hot topic for the media and sees very little press coverage compared to sensationalistic headlines. But it's always a hot topic for me.
New NASA astronauts will never fly on shuttle - Space.com- msnbc.com
Well the Japanese recently imaged sevveral apollo landing sites and have independant photographic evidence ot the activities.
APOLLO LANDING SITES IMAGED BY LRO! | Bad Astronomy | Discover Magazine
Of course NASA could have paid the Japanese billions of yen to fake the photos I guess! (The "great" thing about conspiracy is that you can say just about ANYTHING and there will be some % of the population that will think you are right.)
APOLLO LANDING SITES IMAGED BY LRO! | Bad Astronomy | Discover Magazine
Of course NASA could have paid the Japanese billions of yen to fake the photos I guess! (The "great" thing about conspiracy is that you can say just about ANYTHING and there will be some % of the population that will think you are right.)
Hahahaha! Thanks for the link and the laugh. I always enjoy reading conspiracy theories for the sheer entertainment value.
It's all too easy to fall into that trap of believing theories because one finds possible fault or unknowns in something presented to them by anyone with authority. The human mind loves to fill in the gaps and make conclusions by stringing together these 'unknowns' to prove/disprove something. However, it is much more amusing to see this happen to someone else.
It's all too easy to fall into that trap of believing theories because one finds possible fault or unknowns in something presented to them by anyone with authority. The human mind loves to fill in the gaps and make conclusions by stringing together these 'unknowns' to prove/disprove something. However, it is much more amusing to see this happen to someone else.
I am not a believer in the conspiracy theory.
I just would like to know how they did the shot?
A from earth controlled camera would have a 3 second lag time. (time for the current image to travel to earth, and the time to send a control command back to the camera)
It would be hard to track anything with a 3 second lag.
I just find it remarkable.
If anyone can figure out how they did it. let me know.
Actually wouldn't be so hard. Focus not a problem because it's probably a wide angle lens with a high f-stop, since there's plenty of light. A remote servo mounting controlled by a crew member watching on a TV monitor aboard the LEM would make this quite simple.
Ok, sounds plausible, although keeping the module in the middle of the frame while being ejected at high speed would be more tricky than you suggest.
we all know that "Bush hid the facts" - maybe LBJ did too?
A Lame Brained Jackass was president during the moon landing, but it was not LBJ.
"I am not a crook" I think he was living in the dark side of his bicameral mind ..
I never doubted the landing and still really don't, but this week was the anniversary week of the moon landing, and something odd struck me.
I watched some 4 hours of documentaries, and one piece of footage keeps puzzling me.
There is one film shot showing the lunar module leaving the moon.
The shot is taken from the moon. And more surprising is that the camera is tracking the takeoff and even zooming in.
What puzzles me is how the camera could move and zoom without anybody operating it?
Or did they have some kind of remote on the camera?
How could one operate the remote so perfectly keeping the module in perfect view and focus, while being ejected with incredible speed off the moon?
And would they have time for operating a camera while being busy ejecting of the moon?
If it wasn't manually done, was the camera preprogrammed?
There were no computers in those days small enough to fit in a camera, so how did that work?
That camera also would have had to have a broadcasting device.
How would the footage otherwise find it's way to earth?
That must have been one hell of a sophisticated camera.
I don't believe or don't want to believe the moon landing didn't happen.
I would be shocked because it is one of my earliest memories.
I was 3 yrs old, but I remember watching it with my family in front of the black and white tv.
I didn't understand then what I was watching, but I did remember it.
The moving and zooming camera is a mystery to me.
Maybe one of you could shed some light on it.
this is the link to the footage on youtube.
YouTube - Last Humans on the Moon
Greetz
I watched some 4 hours of documentaries, and one piece of footage keeps puzzling me.
There is one film shot showing the lunar module leaving the moon.
The shot is taken from the moon. And more surprising is that the camera is tracking the takeoff and even zooming in.
What puzzles me is how the camera could move and zoom without anybody operating it?
Or did they have some kind of remote on the camera?
How could one operate the remote so perfectly keeping the module in perfect view and focus, while being ejected with incredible speed off the moon?
And would they have time for operating a camera while being busy ejecting of the moon?
If it wasn't manually done, was the camera preprogrammed?
There were no computers in those days small enough to fit in a camera, so how did that work?
That camera also would have had to have a broadcasting device.
How would the footage otherwise find it's way to earth?
That must have been one hell of a sophisticated camera.
I don't believe or don't want to believe the moon landing didn't happen.
I would be shocked because it is one of my earliest memories.
I was 3 yrs old, but I remember watching it with my family in front of the black and white tv.
I didn't understand then what I was watching, but I did remember it.
The moving and zooming camera is a mystery to me.
Maybe one of you could shed some light on it.
this is the link to the footage on youtube.
YouTube - Last Humans on the Moon
Greetz
Ken
1 - i'm a brit
2 - i was 18 months old at the time
thanks for the correction (although LBJ must have been in on the conspiracy first! )
You know, I've always believed and wanted to believe that they did go to the Moon 40 years ago, but I have so much distrust of the American and UK Governments (Plus others!) that I have become quite sceptical. I think the biggest thing for me that makes me doubt the thing has to be the flag flapping around in the non-existant wind? I would still like somebody to explain that to me? I would love to say "Great stuff, now I'm happy to believe it!". One theory is that the Moon landing footage was filmed at Groom Lake, Nevada, just along from the non-existant Military Base Area 51. (Another US cover-up). Apparently the barren land around there looks just like a surface of a Moon, and of course, nobody could ever get close enough to see them film this as the US Military own miles of land all around!
I think it's good to be sceptical about things and not just blindly believe everythings that's told to you. Not exactly a very clever thing to do. Next thing you'll be saying is that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction! lol. (oh look, he didn't)
The human race does make me laugh. We believe things we are told that are believable, but we dismiss things immediately when they are unbelievable.
I'm sorry to say that Governments are not exactly 100% honest.
I think it's good to be sceptical about things and not just blindly believe everythings that's told to you. Not exactly a very clever thing to do. Next thing you'll be saying is that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction! lol. (oh look, he didn't)
The human race does make me laugh. We believe things we are told that are believable, but we dismiss things immediately when they are unbelievable.
I'm sorry to say that Governments are not exactly 100% honest.
How about the magic bullet in the JFK killing?
They want us to believe it changed it's trajectory 7 times, entering two different body's.
But before I would dismiss the idea of landing of the moon, I would need a lot of conclusive evidence.
If it was a hoax, it will come out one day, but for now I assume it's not a hoax until proven otherwise.
Also because I like the idea of landing on the moon a lot more than the idea of it being a hoax.
Greetz
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I think the biggest thing for me that makes me doubt the thing has to be the flag flapping around in the non-existant wind? I would still like somebody to explain that to me?
Nobody's perfect.
LBJ was so popular, even dead people voted for him. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPrOeqAEocA"]YouTube - Enjoy Destroy - L.B.J. live[/ame]
LBJ was so popular, even dead people voted for him. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPrOeqAEocA"]YouTube - Enjoy Destroy - L.B.J. live[/ame]
Agree with you on those points.
How about the magic bullet in the JFK killing?
They want us to believe it changed it's trajectory 7 times, entering two different body's.
But before I would dismiss the idea of landing of the moon, I would need a lot of conclusive evidence.
How about the magic bullet in the JFK killing?
They want us to believe it changed it's trajectory 7 times, entering two different body's.
But before I would dismiss the idea of landing of the moon, I would need a lot of conclusive evidence.
Come on, get a clue. EWIS is everywhere. [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rNfZxgkH7k"]YouTube - Cause I'm a Blond[/nomedia]
Wayans and Carrey currently form the High Leadership Council of EWIS, and revenues from their movies are now the primary funding source for a more wide-ranging comm network. What do you think the Remote Procedure Call service on your Windows OS really does?
Come on, get a clue. EWIS is everywhere. YouTube - Cause I'm a Blond
Come on, get a clue. EWIS is everywhere. YouTube - Cause I'm a Blond
/shakesfist at things he does not understand and is too lazy to research. Darn you, Remote Procedure Call service! If I disable you, Windows doesn't work. If I enable you, I need to put on my tinfoil hat.... and that thing gets uncomfortably hot.
we're human, so i'll reiterate NOBODY'S PERFECT
It's pretty sad that people think the moon landing was a hoax or that 9/11 was an inside job.
Other than it was his idea? Actually, JFK proposed the moon landing in clandestine support of Mafia desires to widen their distribution and control networks. Everybody who is somebody (EWIS) knows this. EWIS communications were once embedded in low-budget Hollywood releases. One such example is Earth Girls Are Easy, where JFK's b*st*rd children, Damon Wayans and Jim Carrey are paired for the first time. Wayans and Carrey currently form the High Leadership Council of EWIS, and revenues from their movies are now the primary funding source for a more wide-ranging comm network. What do you think the Remote Procedure Call service on your Windows OS really does?
Come on, get a clue. EWIS is everywhere. YouTube - Cause I'm a Blond
Come on, get a clue. EWIS is everywhere. YouTube - Cause I'm a Blond
Hmm are the MODS playing around again, I wonder??
ten has not made any friends yet
your both statements are 100% correct.
Gives ten a friendly wave... and ten's avatar gives me the finger. heheheh
that's why I compared the two.
You would have to read back a few pages to put the remark into the right context.
But for the record: I don't believe the moon landing was a hoax or conspiracy.
About JFK's assassination, I know it was
By the way:
I saw someone mentioning 9/11 as a conspiracy.
It was convenient for Bush and his evil clan, but the idea of it being a conspiracy is ridiculous.
If that turns out to be true, I will believe the moonlanding was a hoax too.
greetz.
As Antman mentioned, JFK spearheaded the moon landing effort as a way of one-upping the Soviet Union. There's a famous speech where he makes the commitment to have an American land on the moon before the end of the decade and gave the project his full backing.
Seriously, though, I'm glad you agree that the idea of 9/11 conspiracy is ridiculous.
Don't forget to mention the drug distribution syndicate that JFK secretly masterminded and spread to the Soviet Union to create internal turmoil for the KGB. That gave NASA time to send out their trained chimps from Alaska's coast to infiltrate the Soviet Union and steal their space-faring technology.
But wouldn't you call Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and the likes of them evil?
They are evil IMHO.
But that doesn't mean I believe they would kill over 6000 of their fellow country men and women.
As for George W Bush, he's too plain stupid to be evil.
Don't forget to mention the drug distribution syndicate that JFK secretly masterminded and spread to the Soviet Union to create internal turmoil for the KGB. That gave NASA time to send out their trained chimps from Alaska's coast to infiltrate the Soviet Union and steal their space-faring technology.
no, that's only what they want you to think...
Dang! Gotta hand it to those clever simians - they sure had me fooled!
In honor of the 40th anniversary of the moon 'landings' i thought it would be fun to take our minds away from windows 7 for a bit and try and figure out if man actually set foot on the moon.
Here is a good site with some decent points:
The Apollo Hoax?
Personally i have my doubts. What do you guys think?
Here is a good site with some decent points:
The Apollo Hoax?
Personally i have my doubts. What do you guys think?
Yep he's the one .. I've listened to him on Coast to Coast quite a few times ...
Have you heard the discussions with Bob Lazar? If so, what do you make of his stories?
I never doubted the landing and still really don't, but this week was the anniversary week of the moon landing, and something odd struck me.
I watched some 4 hours of documentaries, and one piece of footage keeps puzzling me.
There is one film shot showing the lunar module leaving the moon.
The shot is taken from the moon. And more surprising is that the camera is tracking the takeoff and even zooming in.
What puzzles me is how the camera could move and zoom without anybody operating it?
Or did they have some kind of remote on the camera?
How could one operate the remote so perfectly keeping the module in perfect view and focus, while being ejected with incredible speed off the moon?
And would they have time for operating a camera while being busy ejecting of the moon?
If it wasn't manually done, was the camera preprogrammed?
There were no computers in those days small enough to fit in a camera, so how did that work?
That camera also would have had to have a broadcasting device.
How would the footage otherwise find it's way to earth?
The moving and zooming camera is a mystery to me.
Maybe one of you could shed some light on it.
this is the link to the footage on youtube.
YouTube - Last Humans on the Moon
Greetz
I watched some 4 hours of documentaries, and one piece of footage keeps puzzling me.
There is one film shot showing the lunar module leaving the moon.
The shot is taken from the moon. And more surprising is that the camera is tracking the takeoff and even zooming in.
What puzzles me is how the camera could move and zoom without anybody operating it?
Or did they have some kind of remote on the camera?
How could one operate the remote so perfectly keeping the module in perfect view and focus, while being ejected with incredible speed off the moon?
And would they have time for operating a camera while being busy ejecting of the moon?
If it wasn't manually done, was the camera preprogrammed?
There were no computers in those days small enough to fit in a camera, so how did that work?
That camera also would have had to have a broadcasting device.
How would the footage otherwise find it's way to earth?
The moving and zooming camera is a mystery to me.
Maybe one of you could shed some light on it.
this is the link to the footage on youtube.
YouTube - Last Humans on the Moon
Greetz
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