Thứ Tư, 22 tháng 6, 2016

build 7127 Vs 7100 - Thoughts so far part 1


jimbo45

Hi all
Clean install on a laptop -- 11 Mins from a USB stick for 7127 vs 17 mins for 7100.

(If you made a bootable usb stick from an earlier version - or even VISTA just delete the files and copy the files from the W7 ISO to the USB stick. The old bootrec is fine - even if it's the x-86 bootrec -- it will still work even for installing the x-64 bit OS - you don't have to wipe it and create a new active partition on it as per the tutorial).

Only 3 apps installed so far

Photoshop CS4
MS Office 2007
Canon DPP / EOS camera utility.

so not rigorous testing -- but 7127 seems to be snappier and video just "seems" less jerky when scrolling web sites etc etc.

My impressions are that it just SEEMS a bit better than the RC - but of course this isn't a scientific study.

So if you have this build I'd go for it over 7100 -- keys still work BTW and didn't have any problems with Windows Update upgrading my Office 2007 to SP2.

Cheers
jimbo



Stinkfinger

I actually installed build 7127 using my USB stick as well, and it worked perfectly. I've been using this build for almost 2hrs now, and what I've noticed is that some applications that I had before actually do stack with the pinned icons on the taskbar now.. Like TweetDeck (a twitter application), it always got minimized to the systemtray before.

I also had some lag issues on 7100, when using simple and light programs. And now everything is running smoothly. So I guess that this installation gave me drivers that I didn't have before.

I hope I will stumble upon something else.

Good times.

Howdr

everyone so excited about 7127 telling me how much better and all

I installed it on my dell D420 and it froze once today after no problems with 7100

OK wheres 7133?

mxosder16

didn't the 7100 ie8 just say 'InPrivate Browsing' instead of 'Start InPrivate Browsing'

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if so, that's the only visible change, lol.

but the speed is great for me over 7100

harpua

I'm really loving 7127. My laptop feels like it's been turbo charged. Plus I haven't experienced any real issues and I've loaded a lot of stuff plus even enabled test mode and test signed some unsigned drivers (with a utility) so I could run PG2 and RMClock without using Ready Driver Plus to disable driver signing. Absolutely no way can I return to Vista sp2 rtm after this experience. I hope I never have to see Vista again.

Wyodiver

I skipped Vista, went from XP Pro to Win 7. I will hopefully never have to deal with XP again! 7127 x64 does seem a bit smoother than 7100 x64, though. And I haven't had a single issue.

DaRonRon

im really pondering if its worth the time upgrading from 7100 to 7127, i dont want to have to install all my stuff again just for some slight upgrades

harpua

There is a way to do an "upgrade" install without having to do a clean install all over again.

The following instructions are from the Engineering Blog:

How to do �upgrade� install of later build over RC:

"Here�s what you can do to bypass the check for pre-release upgrade IF YOU REALLY REALLY NEED TO:
  1. Download the ISO as you did previously and burn the ISO to a DVD.
  2. Copy the whole image to a storage location you wish to run the upgrade from (a bootable flash drive or a directory on any partition on the machine running the pre-release build).
  3. Browse to the sources directory.
  4. Open the file cversion.ini in a text editor like Notepad.
  5. Modify the MinClient build number to a value lower than the down-level build. For example, change 7100 to 7000 (pictured below).
  6. Save the file in place with the same name.
  7. Run setup like you would normally from this modified copy of the image and the version check will be bypassed.
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These same steps will be required as we transition from the RC milestone to the RTM milestone.
Again, we know many people (including tens of thousands at Microsoft) are relying on the pre-release builds of Windows 7 for mission critical and daily work, making this step less than convenient. We�re working hard to provide the highest quality release we can and so we�d like to make sure for this final phase of testing we�re supporting the most real world scenarios possible, which incremental build to build upgrades are not. At the same time everyone on the beta has been so great we wanted to make sure we at least offered an opportunity to make your own expert and informed choice about how to handle the upgrade."

Orbital Shark

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by redsoxm16 View Post
didn't the 7100 ie8 just say 'InPrivate Browsing' instead of 'Start InPrivate Browsing'
Yes mate, it's actually just 'InPrivate'

Fliplip

Ive just put this build on my Asus EEE PC901 and it seems to be running fine.
Ive not installed anything yet as i need to re install it on a different SSD once that arrives so this was just for testing out if all the drivers were included (all but one were).
The only issue ive got is it takes ages to shut down. Not sure if its the Netbook or Winddows causeing this. I dont have tihs with my PC's running 7100 or XP pro in the netbook but other than tha tim happy.
Lets just hope it keeps getting better.

dave.

Martin

Clean install from usb, bit better as everyone saying than RC 1, dual booting vista sp2, but I think im gonna stay with seven only!!

7127 the best so far



Uber Philf

Hrmm, so you guys reckon its worth upgrading my 7100 to 7127?

Enzo.

jfar

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by ENZO View Post
Hrmm, so you guys reckon its worth upgrading my 7100 to 7127?

Enzo.
Yes, do a fresh install, and hang on to the 7100 build, you never know what you might need it for down the road.

finus

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Hi all
Clean install on a laptop -- 11 Mins from a USB stick for 7127 vs 17 mins for 7100.

(If you made a bootable usb stick from an earlier version - or even VISTA just delete the files and copy the files from the W7 ISO to the USB stick. The old bootrec is fine - even if it's the x-86 bootrec -- it will still work even for installing the x-64 bit OS - you don't have to wipe it and create a new active partition on it as per the tutorial).

Only 3 apps installed so far

Photoshop CS4
MS Office 2007
Canon DPP / EOS camera utility.

so not rigorous testing -- but 7127 seems to be snappier and video just "seems" less jerky when scrolling web sites etc etc.

My impressions are that it just SEEMS a bit better than the RC - but of course this isn't a scientific study.

So if you have this build I'd go for it over 7100 -- keys still work BTW and didn't have any problems with Windows Update upgrading my Office 2007 to SP2.

Cheers
jimbo
Kind of off topic, but did you run DPP/EOS Utility in 7100? I am and the EOS Utility doesn't recognize my 5D Mark II or 40D although they show up in explorer. I don't know if it's a software issue or Windows.

DrWho

Just curious.....Where did 7127 come from?
Why isn't it billed as RC2 or some such?

Where did y'alls find 7127 for download?
Is it bigger or smaller than RC1?

Oh, so many questions!

Doc

Hammerhead786

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by DrWho View Post
Just curious.....Where did 7127 come from?
Why isn't it billed as RC2 or some such?

Where did y'alls find 7127 for download?
Is it bigger or smaller than RC1?

Oh, so many questions!

Doc
Build 7127 is a leaked build and has not officially been released to joe public. It's available via torrents I believe. I'm sure someone can point you in the right direction.

zrtom

Well, I started at a couple builds before 6801. I loved it.

Most of my testing has been x64 on a Dell M1330 since I use that 10-16 hrs a day, although I have W7 on all my machines. A few issues at first with nVidia drivers (BSOD) and the fingerprint reader. Other little issues that didn't really matter.

Since then, I've tried 8 or 10 subsequent builds. Each one seemed better. Never any backsliding like some have experienced.

On a more consistent basis starting around 7057, I've been running the Restart-Time script right after installing, after the second reboot, after the fifth, tenth, twentieth and so on. All on unaltered/untweaked fresh installs except drivers, CCleaner, and Process Explorer, pretty much.

Believe it or not, the biggest improvement seems to have been from 7100 to 7127. Average restart times (regular HDD, not the OCZ SSDs I've posted about) have gone from around 60 seconds to 50 seconds or less (that's english units, metriticians will have to convert....LOL).

And all those "other little issues that didn't really matter" ..... they have all cleared up with 7127. Things like the Dell Quickset volume indicator that flashes on the screen when you mute or change the volume. For the first time so far, it works in 7127.

So for me, W7 is ready.

DrWho

I just called my Software Guru and he said he'd have 7127 for me tomorrow.
So that little problem is solved.

I just need to buy him lunch! No biggie!

Personally, I've seen no real problems running RC1 on my home-built PC.
My MSI mobo and AMD Athlon 5200+, X2, cpu take it in stride.
Even my Winfast Video card works great.

Overall, it would appear to this reader, that most of the people reporting problems with any new OS are running Dells.
Just one of many reasons there will never be a Dell in this house.

Y'all have a great day now, Y'hear?
The Doctor

Wyodiver

Using a Dell XPS 410 here. I've had very few problems with Windows 7. Any problems I've had were mainly on earlier builds.

DrWho

I was given a Dell XPS 400, that was failing, but Dell refused to fix it.
They said that it had a bad motherboard and an old style CPU.
Well, all that was true, plus it had a very weak PSU which finally failed.
At that point, I scrapped out the PC, saving components that I could use, like the two Maxtor 160 gig SATA2 hard drives, the video card and modem.
The case, psu and mobo is now somewhere in the local land fill.

Dell replaced that PC, for a friend of mine, with a new one. It wasn't much better, because the PSU failed in less than one year of service.
I replaced that P.O.S. with an Antec Earthwatts 650 and there have been no more PSU related problems.

The PSU that I removed from that Dell, had bulging filter capacitors in it.

Such is life in the fast lane!

The Doctor

Mark Phelps

I know the advice is to do a clean install of 7127 instead of an upgrade from 7100, but has anyone actually done the upgrade? If so, are there any bad experiences from that?

Asking because I've spent lots of hours customizing my 7100 installation and really don't want to start over again with 7127. I know I'll have to do that with the RTM -- but that's months down the road.



copernicus

I did an updgrade from 7100 becaue I'm limiting myself to one clean install per month.

No problems so far.

Ciera

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by copernicus View Post
I did an updgrade from 7100 becaue I'm limiting myself to one clean install per month.
lmfao.... that sounds like some kind of diet.. hahahaha


but yea, so far, after further review, 7127 has cured alot of my "blues". Especially when it comes to correctly and accurately reporting the connection, be it wired or wireless, as compared to the PUBLIC RELEASED windows 7 beta 2..."RC"

not too mention, there wasnt any 2 updates for the IE, or the x86 root security flaw as found for the BETA 2. And i've yet to have the language pack updates as well, just fyi. Tho not sure if they are included or not. I would presume yes, but then again....

I honestly think MS should state a public apology for their carelessness of releasing this build to the general public, and then release an actual RC available to the public.... but oh my... that would definitely let the cat out of the bag wouldnt it.... roll the dice i say MS.... reconciling this issue may speak well on your future reputation.

Blongs

i've been using 7127 for about a week now. besides the folder.jpg bugfix, one other major thing i've noticed is that my system no longer hangs after signing in from locked state or power saving mode - which it would persistently do at random in both 7077 and 7100.

Ciera

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Ciera View Post
i've been using 7127 for about a week now. besides the folder.jpg bugfix,


are you talking about the extension "bug", the one thats been in existance for while, or is this something new?

Guest

In 7127 ... I had to disable AVG's resident shield to be able to open a picture in Irfanview in less than 4>5 seconds ???
I didn't have this problem in 7100 ... So far, this is the only difference I've found.

For Photoshop users ... There's some neat context menu tricks going on here

Guest

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Mark Phelps View Post
I know the advice is to do a clean install of 7127 instead of an upgrade from 7100, but has anyone actually done the upgrade? If so, are there any bad experiences from that?

Asking because I've spent lots of hours customizing my 7100 installation and really don't want to start over again with 7127. I know I'll have to do that with the RTM -- but that's months down the road.
I did an upgrade install from 7100 to 7127 and upgrade went without a hitch. I've done clean installs of every previous build but I just finished installing and setting up 7100 when 7127 came along, so I did my first upgrade. No regrets so far, if you had no problems with 7100 you will probably see some improvements with 7127. I say go for it.

Guest

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Digger View Post
are you talking about the extension "bug", the one thats been in existance for while, or is this something new?
not the extension bug, folder cover/thumbnail bug. refer to: link

Guest

I keep hearing a lot of good things about 7127. Just installed 7100 but am already considering making the jump. But I'm tired of burning DVDs (I have a MacBook Pro, which means EFI; flash drive installation doesn't work so well yet).

Guest

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Ciera View Post
not the extension bug, folder cover/thumbnail bug. refer to: link
ahhh ty, i missed that thread... never ran into that... that goes without saying i dont use the OS that much as of yet for me to see that behavior. But thank you for pointing me to your thread, that was good info. I also wonder if this may have had anything to do with the "bug" of the HG libraries not showing up at times, and needed the fix of either restore to default, or change the optomize this foler for... Very interesting, again thanks.

edit: what I meant by "not showing up" was ... the library itself would show up, but when going into, no contents would be displayed until doing the above "fix"

Pinger

I hoped I could just install the newer versions right over my Build 7100 like an update, guess that's not the case after reading this thread



PhreePhly

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Digger View Post
lmfao.... that sounds like some kind of diet.. hahahaha


but yea, so far, after further review, 7127 has cured alot of my "blues". Especially when it comes to correctly and accurately reporting the connection, be it wired or wireless, as compared to the PUBLIC RELEASED windows 7 beta 2..."RC"
Hmm, never ran into that problem. Must of just been you. My build correctly reports my connection.

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Digger View Post
ahhh ty, i missed that thread... never ran into that... that goes without saying i dont use the OS that much as of yet for me to see that behavior. But thank you for pointing me to your thread, that was good info.
Sorry to jump on you, but you've been making it a habit lately of jumping on anyone that states how great 7100 has been. I'm another data point that thinks that 7100 is the fastest, most stable release yet. (not including 7127, as that is newer).

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Digger View Post
not too mention, there wasnt any 2 updates for the IE, or the x86 root security flaw as found for the BETA 2. And i've yet to have the language pack updates as well, just fyi. Tho not sure if they are included or not. I would presume yes, but then again....

I honestly think MS should state a public apology for their carelessness of releasing this build to the general public, and then release an actual RC available to the public.... but oh my... that would definitely let the cat out of the bag wouldnt it.... roll the dice i say MS.... reconciling this issue may speak well on your future reputation.
FFS, what do IE updates have to do with Win 7? Of course the 7127 build didn't need the updates, they were included. Guess what, RTM won't need those either.

As far as the root security error goes, well sh*t happens and they probably won't make the same mistake on RTM.

I'm sorry MS killed your dog, but they've been real nice to mine.

PhreePhly

harpua

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Pinger View Post
I hoped I could just install the newer versions right over my Build 7100 like an update, guess that's not the case after reading this thread
As stated previously, in this thread I think, you CAN DEFINITELY DO an upgrade install over 7100, if you want, and users who have done it are not reporting any problems that I've seen. Here are the instructions from the MS Engineering Blog:

How to do �upgrade� install of later build over RC:
Here�s what you can do to bypass the check for pre-release upgrade IF YOU REALLY REALLY NEED TO:
  1. Download the ISO as you did previously and burn the ISO to a DVD.
  2. Copy the whole image to a storage location you wish to run the upgrade from (a bootable flash drive or a directory on any partition on the machine running the pre-release build).
  3. Browse to the sources directory.
  4. Open the file cversion.ini in a text editor like Notepad.
  5. Modify the MinClient build number to a value lower than the down-level build. For example, change 7100 to 7000 (pictured below).
  6. Save the file in place with the same name.
  7. Run setup like you would normally from this modified copy of the image and the version check will be bypassed.
These same steps will be required as we transition from the RC milestone to the RTM milestone. [In other words, if this is not already clear enough, you can do this same procedure to "upgrade" instead of clean install from a future RC to the RTM, when available.]

Again, we know many people (including tens of thousands at Microsoft) are relying on the pre-release builds of Windows 7 for mission critical and daily work, making this step less than convenient. We�re working hard to provide the highest quality release we can and so we�d like to make sure for this final phase of testing we�re supporting the most real world scenarios possible, which incremental build to build upgrades are not. At the same time everyone on the beta has been so great we wanted to make sure we at least offered an opportunity to make your own expert and informed choice about how to handle the upgrade.

Pinger

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by harpua View Post
As stated previously, in this thread I think, you CAN DEFINITELY DO an upgrade install over 7100, if you want, and users who have done it are not reporting any problems that I've seen. Here are the instructions from the MS Engineering Blog:.
Thank you harpua....

Sven

Will this work?
Use Windows easy transfer, format C:, install 7127, use Windows easy transfer again with data from 7100.
Or is there too much difference between these 2 builds?

Wyodiver

Sven, if you are talking about Migration Wizard (Migwiz) then yes, should work fine. When I switched from Win 7 32bit to 64bit I had to, of course, do a clean install. I used Migwiz and it worked perfectly.

Orbital Shark

1 change i've noticed in 7127 so far:

Control Panel - Network and Internet: More options under Internet Settings, this is the same as in Build 7077
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Internet Explorer - Start InPrivate Browsing: (thanks to redsoxm16 for this) When right-clicking the IE taskbar icon, InPrivate has been replaced with Start InPrivate Browsing.
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More to follow as i find them. 7127 so far is a lot more zippy than 7100. 1 more thing what's taking up the other 170+MB? (See pic below)
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jimbo45

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by finus View Post
Kind of off topic, but did you run DPP/EOS Utility in 7100? I am and the EOS Utility doesn't recognize my 5D Mark II or 40D although they show up in explorer. I don't know if it's a software issue or Windows.
Hi there I don't have a 5D M2 but it works for a 1D MK2 and 1D Mk3 (also a new compact camera the Canon G10).

Install it in VISTA SP2 compatability mode - no probs so far.

Also download the latest version from the Canon site

Digital Photo Professional-E

cheers
jimbo

Mercurial

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by harpua View Post
As stated previously, in this thread I think, you CAN DEFINITELY DO an upgrade install over 7100, if you want, and users who have done it are not reporting any problems that I've seen. Here are the instructions from the MS Engineering Blog:

How to do �upgrade� install of later build over RC:
Here�s what you can do to bypass the check for pre-release upgrade IF YOU REALLY REALLY NEED TO:
  1. Download the ISO as you did previously and burn the ISO to a DVD.
  2. Copy the whole image to a storage location you wish to run the upgrade from (a bootable flash drive or a directory on any partition on the machine running the pre-release build).
  3. Browse to the sources directory.
  4. Open the file cversion.ini in a text editor like Notepad.
  5. Modify the MinClient build number to a value lower than the down-level build. For example, change 7100 to 7000 (pictured below).
  6. Save the file in place with the same name.
  7. Run setup like you would normally from this modified copy of the image and the version check will be bypassed.
These same steps will be required as we transition from the RC milestone to the RTM milestone. [In other words, if this is not already clear enough, you can do this same procedure to "upgrade" instead of clean install from a future RC to the RTM, when available.]

Again, we know many people (including tens of thousands at Microsoft) are relying on the pre-release builds of Windows 7 for mission critical and daily work, making this step less than convenient. We�re working hard to provide the highest quality release we can and so we�d like to make sure for this final phase of testing we�re supporting the most real world scenarios possible, which incremental build to build upgrades are not. At the same time everyone on the beta has been so great we wanted to make sure we at least offered an opportunity to make your own expert and informed choice about how to handle the upgrade.
lol? I just ran the installer and click upgrade o.O no need to edit some .ini things :P and after 20 minutes 7100 evolved into 7127 :P

Pinger

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
lol? I just ran the installer and click upgrade o.O no need to edit some .ini things :P and after 20 minutes 7100 evolved into 7127 :P
And you lost nothing from the previous install (installed programs, documents, music ect....)??

Wyodiver

Pinger, I did the same upgrade from 7100 to 7127 as Mercurial. I didn't lose anything. Installed programs, docs, music, pics, etc, all worked fine. The one and only problem I encountered was a program called BW Meter, which is a bandwidth monitor. It freaked a little. But it was nice about it, just came up with a message saying to please reinstall it. Other than that, flawless.

Clean installs are always best. But I've done several upgrades also since 7000, The only major fail was 7000 32bit to 7022 32bit. The upgrade completely failed. I think it was do to an older version of AVG that I should have uninstalled prior to the upgrade. Even with the failure, Win 7 just rolled back to 7000 with no problems. Just a lot of wasted time.

The way I look at it now, I will try an upgrade, but before doing so, I make sure I'm prepared to do a clean install in case the upgrade really messes up. Everything is backed up first. MigWiz (Migration Wizard) helps a lot with that.



harpua

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
lol? I just ran the installer and click upgrade o.O no need to edit some .ini things :P and after 20 minutes 7100 evolved into 7127 :P
Maybe they took out the version check in the RC then. If so, that's great. Makes it even easier to do an upgrade install.

harpua

Afaiac, 7127 feels like an RTM. But I didn't extensively evaluate the 7100 rc, so can't really comment on the differences.

cbkitt

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Mark Phelps View Post
I know the advice is to do a clean install of 7127 instead of an upgrade from 7100, but has anyone actually done the upgrade? If so, are there any bad experiences from that?

Asking because I've spent lots of hours customizing my 7100 installation and really don't want to start over again with 7127. I know I'll have to do that with the RTM -- but that's months down the road.
Works better then RC 7100 and its faster. They also went back to Direct X 10 - they took Direct X 11 out of RTM 7127.

RST101

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Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by cbkitt View Post
Works better then RC 7100 and its faster. They also went back to Direct X 10 - they took Direct X 11 out of RTM 7127.
I still have dx11 in mine

harpua

DX11 is still on 7127 on mine.

Gene

It is a problem but I question how widespread. A few dozen posts in one thread becomes a bit insignificant when you consider the installed base of Win 7 RC - millions?

RST101

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Gene View Post
It is a problem but I question how widespread. A few dozen posts in one thread becomes a bit insignificant when you consider the installed base of Win 7 RC - millions?
Especially when you to take into consideration the amount that will be user generated and no fault of the os.

Sven

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Wyodiver View Post
Sven, if you are talking about Migration Wizard (Migwiz) then yes, should work fine. When I switched from Win 7 32bit to 64bit I had to, of course, do a clean install. I used Migwiz and it worked perfectly.
No, I'm talking about the buildin tool.
Click startbuttom, select "all programs", select "accessories", select, "system tools", select "Easy Windows Transfer".

Wyodiver

Sven, "Easy Windows Transfer" and "Migration Wizard" are the same exact thing. It's just called "Migration Wizard" when you run it from the "Support" folder on a burned DVD of Win 7, like what you would do if you were migrating from XP to Win 7.

Sven

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Wyodiver View Post
Sven, "Easy Windows Transfer" and "Migration Wizard" are the same exact thing. It's just called "Migration Wizard" when you run it from the "Support" folder on a burned DVD of Win 7, like what you would do if you were migrating from XP to Win 7.

Ohh, I did not know that .
Thank you for the info about this and about it working. I will then do a clean install, and then use the tool to get my settings back.



Brink

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The next bickering post by PhreePhly or Digger posted will be handled with a ban. No more.

The posts have been removed.

Veacheslav

PhenomMsrTweaker now works. At least it launches :-)
Under 7100 it was crashing every time I was trying to start it.

Gene

I did the upgrade from 7100 to 7127. It went without a hitch. I really don't see any difference - it is stable and smooth as was 7100.
Am I missing anything?

Wyodiver

Gene, I don't think you are missing anything. I felt the same way about going from 7100 to 7127. I'm sure 7127 is pretty much about stability, drivers, etc. (Not that that's a bad thing.)

Sven

I got a new thing. I'm using ESET Smart Security, and now the Action-center complains that Windows Defender and ESET Smart Security both are turned on. But it gives me no option to turn Windows Defender off.

AFAIR Windows Defender in 7100 turned itself off when I installed ESET SS.

How do I turn Windows Defender off?

DrWho

You may just want to DE-Install it. That should do it!

I'll never trust the fox to guard the hen house, so defender gets the axe.

Works for me!!!!

Doc

Iknewitwin7

It's running great, and got the network/Internet issue fixed that broke with the public RC release

Sven

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by DrWho View Post
You may just want to DE-Install it. That should do it!

I'll never trust the fox to guard the hen house, so defender gets the axe.

Works for me!!!!

Doc
I might be stupid, but where do I find the uninstaller for Windows defender?

Wyodiver

Sven, try this: type "defender" in search, Options, Real-time protection, then on right side uncheck "Use real time protection."

Windows Defender plays nice with my ESET, but I'm using ESET AV, not Smart Security, so not entirely sure the above will help you. But it's worth a try. Good luck!

Sven

Thank you, that seems to have helped



Wyodiver

Sven, was just a guess, glad it worked for you.

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