my system resets as soon as a game gets graphically intense. Is it because of im putting my gfx card through too much stress ? or is it because im bottle-necking the gfx card with an inferior processor and motherboard?
please advice and thank you for your valued time
please advice and thank you for your valued time
What do you mean it resets? Just shuts down and reboots?
If so, any error messages or Blue Screen?
If not, one likely culprit would be the Power Supply not being up to the job when the GPU is under load.
What type of Power Supply do have?
If so, any error messages or Blue Screen?
If not, one likely culprit would be the Power Supply not being up to the job when the GPU is under load.
What type of Power Supply do have?
The screen goes blank, the GPU fan begins to spin a full 100% cycle speed, making a racket,the current game freezes, i know this cause of the audio within game keep repeating itself which is also annoying as HELL and continues to do so untill i hit the restart switch on the case.
it reboots. it boots up normally. As if i have turned it on after a shutdown. As you can see my system specifications. MY current power supply is a mere 550 watts. An inferior brand i must add. Im thinking of getting another 1 TB external for my backup as-well.
i need recommendations as in what safe PSU is should go for. getting a 1000 Watts would bleed me dry LOL
it reboots. it boots up normally. As if i have turned it on after a shutdown. As you can see my system specifications. MY current power supply is a mere 550 watts. An inferior brand i must add. Im thinking of getting another 1 TB external for my backup as-well.
i need recommendations as in what safe PSU is should go for. getting a 1000 Watts would bleed me dry LOL
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Pyronox 
getting a 1000 Watts would bleed me dry LOL
Corsair, seasonic, some Antecs etc are a few decent brands.
Assuming it's a power supply problem that is - from the symptoms it could also be a dying card, bad ram etc
dying card 
i hope not, i paid a nice amount for that
i hope not, i paid a nice amount for that
Power supply by the sound of it
I suspect a Power as well. A Corsair 550 should be plenty. (Im partial to Corsair PSUs and always recommend them though, there are other good brands as suggested)
As smarteyeball has suggested, it could also be a couple other things.
Forunately, RAM can be tested quite easily, and with Free tools.
I think it would probably be a good idea to start with RAM, and test it so we can get a better idea what we are loking at.
No point running out and buying parts you do not need.
For the RAM:
Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool
You can either burn it to CD, or USB. Boot from whichever you choose and run through the tests. I would let it loop through 2-3 times at least.
If that comes out Ok, chances are RAM is fine.
As smarteyeball has suggested, it could also be a couple other things.
Forunately, RAM can be tested quite easily, and with Free tools.
I think it would probably be a good idea to start with RAM, and test it so we can get a better idea what we are loking at.
No point running out and buying parts you do not need.
For the RAM:
Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool
You can either burn it to CD, or USB. Boot from whichever you choose and run through the tests. I would let it loop through 2-3 times at least.
If that comes out Ok, chances are RAM is fine.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Pyronox dying card
i hope not, i paid a nice amount for that
i hope not, i paid a nice amount for that
It's unlikely that it is the card - but it is not an impossibility.
I had very similar symptoms with a 4890 that turned out to have a faulty voltage regulator on the card itself. The voltage would fluctuate wildly, even spiking over 2v which is way out of spec.
At the time this issue drove me mad trying to find the culprit and it was actually by sheer luck I noticed it while monitoring the card with GPU-Z
My screen would go black (sometimes grey, red) - the fan ramped up to 100%, audio looped etc. Eventually it got so bad that it would do it at the desktop and then even in BIOS.
I'm not saying that this is what's happening to you - but it's a possibility.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Wishmaster I suspect a Power as well.
Forunately, RAM can be tested quite easily, and with Free tools.
I think it would probably be a good idea to start with RAM, and test it so we can get a better idea what we are looking at.
No point running out and buying parts you do not need.
Forunately, RAM can be tested quite easily, and with Free tools.
I think it would probably be a good idea to start with RAM, and test it so we can get a better idea what we are looking at.
No point running out and buying parts you do not need.
But as WM said, there's no point in rushing out and buying anything until you have narrowed it down by eliminating other potential culprits.
The card should also be displaying one or two Red LEDS on the back of it when it's locked up. Depending on the lights, they can sometimes help point you in the right direction.
Good hunting
I had the same problem last year, replacing the PSU did not fix the problem so I had to buy a new GPU and PSU.
manual reboot usually does the trick. other wise the system beeps thrice and doesnt boot. Three to four lights are displayed at the back of the card when this happens. But i figured it was a loose contact of VGA cable that connects the card and the screed. A slight nudge and manual reboot later usually does the trick.
Thanks for the ram test, ill check it out as soon as i get home from work.
and all this nonsense has been happening for quite a long time now
Thanks for the ram test, ill check it out as soon as i get home from work.
and all this nonsense has been happening for quite a long time now
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The graphic card temperature worries me 
i used to have the same with my old PSU TX850W after having it for 10 weeks so i sent it back and got an Antec 750W for my lan pc
Lan pc
Q6600 @ 3.4GHZ V10 cooler 58'c
8GB DDR3 1333MHZ OCZ
2x Geforce GTX 285 OC 740MHZ Inno3D
P45 DFI lanparty mobo Tri SLI enabled
WIn7 X64 SP1
Thats too hot for GPU my 2 GTX 285s @ 60'c each on idle and load is 67'c
and main pc is 2x Radeon 5970 Xfire @ 68'c/69'c
Lan pc
Q6600 @ 3.4GHZ V10 cooler 58'c
8GB DDR3 1333MHZ OCZ
2x Geforce GTX 285 OC 740MHZ Inno3D
P45 DFI lanparty mobo Tri SLI enabled
WIn7 X64 SP1
Thats too hot for GPU my 2 GTX 285s @ 60'c each on idle and load is 67'c
and main pc is 2x Radeon 5970 Xfire @ 68'c/69'c
So what do you suggest ? It's could be a faulty power supply unit?
I would look at your GPU. If you're gaming and the system shuts down, that could very well be an overheating video card. With that said, do you have access to some sort of replacement to test?
I would probably recommend the software route first instead of recommending spending money.
as your fan speed is controlled by your drivers (his shoots up to 100% on failiure) an as he is getting a sound loop crash it sounds like a simple driver issue/crash to me.
PSU possibly but normally if the gpu doesnt get enough juice it drops to 2d speeds it doesnt crash. Same if it gets too hot.
Im suspecting his high idle temps are due to a high ambient temp rather than a problem (look where he lives
)
Maybe first a clean gpu driver install , chipset driver soundcard driver etc
Im probably wrong its worth a shot before cash
as your fan speed is controlled by your drivers (his shoots up to 100% on failiure) an as he is getting a sound loop crash it sounds like a simple driver issue/crash to me.
PSU possibly but normally if the gpu doesnt get enough juice it drops to 2d speeds it doesnt crash. Same if it gets too hot.
Im suspecting his high idle temps are due to a high ambient temp rather than a problem (look where he lives
)Maybe first a clean gpu driver install , chipset driver soundcard driver etc
Im probably wrong its worth a shot before cash
To (re)state my philosophy,
Start with the simple, than progress from there.
So before you start spending cash on �guesswork�� start with the simple, than progress from there. Troubleshoot!!! So yeah, I agree with archie here as well.
So when I said�.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 That meant use available resources on hand.
Just to clearify things
Start with the simple, than progress from there.
So before you start spending cash on �guesswork�� start with the simple, than progress from there. Troubleshoot!!! So yeah, I agree with archie here as well.
So when I said�.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 I would look at your GPU. If you're gaming and the system shuts down, that could very well be an overheating video card. With that said, do you have access to some sort of replacement to test?
Just to clearify things
one try Motherboard driver update
Two try sound card update
then if it still fails flash bios to newer release
Two try sound card update
then if it still fails flash bios to newer release
�� Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 I would look at your GPU. If you're gaming and the system shuts down, that could very well be an overheating video card. With that said, do you have access to some sort of replacement to test?
i wasnt gaming or running any apps in the background when taking these . .. . . . .
Are these temps with a load or idle? They seem awfully high, and I also note the fan running at high speed as well.
I thought Overheating at first :/, i don't remember seeing anything about it freezing on the desktop, so under high load, it overheats and causes the freeze. 86c is already very hot.
idle IDLE IDLE. YEAh thats whas scares me.
Are all these temps at idle?
Looking at your Speccy from Page 2 of this thread seem as if everything is a bit on the high side.
Even the Hard drives at 52C.
Im curious:
1) What kind of case do you have?
2) How many case fans do you have? (both pulling in and exhaust out)
3) And last, what are the ambient room tempratutures this PC is in?
And I complete agree with everyone else. Do'nt run out and buy anything just yet untill you can isolate the problem/cause.
It may be something quite simple.
I am beginning to wonder if perhaps this is a compination of high ambient tempratures combined with insuffecient airflow problems for those temps.
The shut dowsns may be due to heat & not neccasarily a hardware problem.
Looking at your Speccy from Page 2 of this thread seem as if everything is a bit on the high side.
Even the Hard drives at 52C.
Im curious:
1) What kind of case do you have?
2) How many case fans do you have? (both pulling in and exhaust out)
3) And last, what are the ambient room tempratutures this PC is in?
And I complete agree with everyone else. Do'nt run out and buy anything just yet untill you can isolate the problem/cause.
It may be something quite simple.
I am beginning to wonder if perhaps this is a compination of high ambient tempratures combined with insuffecient airflow problems for those temps.
The shut dowsns may be due to heat & not neccasarily a hardware problem.
Im curious:
1) What kind of case do you have?
a normal one, nothing fancy ,you know it holds everthing that i put in . here see for youself
2) How many case fans do you have? (both pulling in and exhaust out)
case fan's . nada . nothing.
3) And last, what are the ambient room tempratutures this PC is in?
i guess around 30 - 35. cuase the air conditioning is on full blast cause of the heat that is around here as of right now. Its sizzling outside
OH and one more thing. My system casing is ALWAYS OPEN. Dont ask me why , i like to keep staring at my graphic card (OH THAT BIG RED DEVIL ;P) ( i think she likes to stare back as well, kidding )
And my system is Switched on 24/7 365 . do you think it could be because of that ?
1) What kind of case do you have?
a normal one, nothing fancy ,you know it holds everthing that i put in . here see for youself
2) How many case fans do you have? (both pulling in and exhaust out)
case fan's . nada . nothing.
3) And last, what are the ambient room tempratutures this PC is in?
i guess around 30 - 35. cuase the air conditioning is on full blast cause of the heat that is around here as of right now. Its sizzling outside
OH and one more thing. My system casing is ALWAYS OPEN. Dont ask me why , i like to keep staring at my graphic card (OH THAT BIG RED DEVIL ;P) ( i think she likes to stare back as well, kidding
)And my system is Switched on 24/7 365 . do you think it could be because of that ?
Ok.
You really need at least 1 fan as a exhaust.
Ideally, at least 2. One pulling cool air in, and one exhausting the hot air.
Theres 2 schools of thought on which is best concerning basic air flow:
1. A Negative pressure setup.
This mean you have more of the hot air being exhauted outside the case than cool air being pulled in. (such as a larger,or more exhaust fans than intake)
2. Positive pressure. Just the opposite. You have more cool air coming in than being pushed or pulled out.
I've had better luck with negative, others do better with positive. Depends on the setup.
Also, leaving the side of the case off is usually a bad idea.
Even with no case fans, the PSU and GPU itself are pulling air from inside the case and blowing it out. Creating a negative air flow.
When you remove the side of the case, it all open, and theres no air being pulled in through the vents or flowing over the components to cool them better.
You're best leaving it on.
I completely understand wanting to see the components. Some like that type of stuff (I am one)
But, youd be better off with a case that has a see through side.
IMHO, one thing that may help a lot is to pick up a couple case fans. They are usually fairly cheap depending what type you get. Around 5-10$$ ea.
One in the rear of the case, and one in the fron (preferable pulling cool air into the case and blowing over the HDs)
This way, the GPU will have cooler air to pull in, and should cool it better as well as the rest of the components (MOBO etc)
With the PSU and GPU fans as your only real cooling, leaving the side of the case off may only hurt as theres no air flow at all over the components.
You really need at least 1 fan as a exhaust.
Ideally, at least 2. One pulling cool air in, and one exhausting the hot air.
Theres 2 schools of thought on which is best concerning basic air flow:
1. A Negative pressure setup.
This mean you have more of the hot air being exhauted outside the case than cool air being pulled in. (such as a larger,or more exhaust fans than intake)
2. Positive pressure. Just the opposite. You have more cool air coming in than being pushed or pulled out.
I've had better luck with negative, others do better with positive. Depends on the setup.
Also, leaving the side of the case off is usually a bad idea.
Even with no case fans, the PSU and GPU itself are pulling air from inside the case and blowing it out. Creating a negative air flow.
When you remove the side of the case, it all open, and theres no air being pulled in through the vents or flowing over the components to cool them better.
You're best leaving it on.
I completely understand wanting to see the components. Some like that type of stuff (I am one)
But, youd be better off with a case that has a see through side.
IMHO, one thing that may help a lot is to pick up a couple case fans. They are usually fairly cheap depending what type you get. Around 5-10$$ ea.
One in the rear of the case, and one in the fron (preferable pulling cool air into the case and blowing over the HDs)
This way, the GPU will have cooler air to pull in, and should cool it better as well as the rest of the components (MOBO etc)
With the PSU and GPU fans as your only real cooling, leaving the side of the case off may only hurt as theres no air flow at all over the components.
thanks million wishmaster. i shall pursue said course. If there are any hicks along the way, i ll be sure to let you know.
P.S. Also a thousand thank you's to all you took their time to help me. I owe you guys
BIGTIME !
P.S. Also a thousand thank you's to all you took their time to help me. I owe you guys
BIGTIME !
[QUOTE=Pyronox;896516]Im curious:
1) What kind of case do you have?
a normal one, nothing fancy ,you know it holds everthing that i put in . here see for youself
Wow! Look at the dust around the CPU heatsink in that first picture
Get that thing cleaned out big time mate and reapply thermal paste to your CPU also. Then check your temps and report back
And yes, get 2x 120mm fans (One for thr front and one for the back) and make sure they are positioned correctly to create the airflow. ie, Front inwards/back outwards.
Just to add i clean my PC out at least once a month. I use a soft clean (new) paintbrush along with my hoover. Some people don't recommend using an hoover as if you're not careful you could easily damage one of the components (ie. pots). But i have done it this way for years now and never had any issue's. At least this way i am sure i have done a good job. I even go so far as to pull my PSU out and open it up (Every couple of months) and give that the same vigorous treatment. Oh! And i allways wear an anti-static strap
Good luck and i hope you get it sorted
1) What kind of case do you have?
a normal one, nothing fancy ,you know it holds everthing that i put in . here see for youself
Wow! Look at the dust around the CPU heatsink in that first picture
Get that thing cleaned out big time mate and reapply thermal paste to your CPU also. Then check your temps and report back
And yes, get 2x 120mm fans (One for thr front and one for the back) and make sure they are positioned correctly to create the airflow. ie, Front inwards/back outwards.
Just to add i clean my PC out at least once a month. I use a soft clean (new) paintbrush along with my hoover. Some people don't recommend using an hoover as if you're not careful you could easily damage one of the components (ie. pots). But i have done it this way for years now and never had any issue's. At least this way i am sure i have done a good job. I even go so far as to pull my PSU out and open it up (Every couple of months) and give that the same vigorous treatment. Oh! And i allways wear an anti-static strap
Good luck and i hope you get it sorted
One other thought.
Aa taylorrig suggested, a couple 120mm fans would be great.
But, just make sure you can use them.
In the back, and front of the case there shold be a place where you can mount a fan. Measure it (the mounting area), and then compare to the fan sizes.
You may be able to get 120mm, or it may need to be a 92 or 80mm. Or combination.
Aa taylorrig suggested, a couple 120mm fans would be great.
But, just make sure you can use them.
In the back, and front of the case there shold be a place where you can mount a fan. Measure it (the mounting area), and then compare to the fan sizes.
You may be able to get 120mm, or it may need to be a 92 or 80mm. Or combination.
Yep i said 120mm fans because on that picture i quoted you can see two holes for screws (when you zoom in) which are usually for 80mm and 120mm fans
And also Pyronox you may want to do a bit of cable management in that case also.
Once again good luck with it all. Be careful and all shall be well
And also Pyronox you may want to do a bit of cable management in that case also.
Once again good luck with it all. Be careful and all shall be well
I experienced a similar problem at home once with a Dell computer that I had. Ended up being 1 bad ram chip...which of course was bought by myself from crucial.com so I cannot blame Dell for that one.
I agree with the others that you should try to clean out as much of that dust as you can, get the side back on the case for better airflow and add at least 1 fan blowing hot air out of the back.
I agree with the others that you should try to clean out as much of that dust as you can, get the side back on the case for better airflow and add at least 1 fan blowing hot air out of the back.
Ok.
i feel stupid asking this question. i Bought a Zalman 80mm fan. How do i stall the thing :S
http://www.zalman.co.kr/ENG/product/...ad.asp?idx=329
i feel stupid asking this question. i Bought a Zalman 80mm fan. How do i stall the thing :S
http://www.zalman.co.kr/ENG/product/...ad.asp?idx=329
Have a look at this video Pyronox.
YouTube - How To- Install Computer Case Fans(all sizes)
This is with a long screw and bolt, but you may have shorter self tapping screws.
Either way, it basically the same thing.
If self tapping type, it might be easier to get the screws started in the fan 1st. however you find easier.
Also, if putting in back of case, You want the back of the fan, (where those braces are)
toward the back of the case so its blowing air out.
Open Side=Intake -- Braced Side=Exhaust
YouTube - How To- Install Computer Case Fans(all sizes)
This is with a long screw and bolt, but you may have shorter self tapping screws.
Either way, it basically the same thing.
If self tapping type, it might be easier to get the screws started in the fan 1st. however you find easier.
Also, if putting in back of case, You want the back of the fan, (where those braces are)
toward the back of the case so its blowing air out.
Open Side=Intake -- Braced Side=Exhaust
cheers mate
I have the issue of where to plug in on the motherboard. i can install the fan hehe
I have the issue of where to plug in on the motherboard. i can install the fan hehe
i cant beleive that only one person(excuse me if i missed anyone else) suggested cleanign (tho they said the cpu) but this could very well be a dust problem in the gpu itself. i know recently my gpu has been getting up to 120 Celsius, and sure enough i had a nice tape of lint clogging the fins of the heatsink. so that could very well be the problem right there and the first place i would look.
the method i would use is take out the gpu, take a can of air and blast the air down the heatsink fins toward the fan, see what pops up, if you have lint remove with tweezers (since you are grabbing between the fan fins) be careful not to break the fan though. finally sick the nozzle of the air though the fan's fins and blast the heat sink fins that way.
Note: do not blast the air upside down as you may cause freeze damage to the card.
only blast in short bursts (usually >5 second long), as you could also cause freeze damage that way.
always read the can.
the method i would use is take out the gpu, take a can of air and blast the air down the heatsink fins toward the fan, see what pops up, if you have lint remove with tweezers (since you are grabbing between the fan fins) be careful not to break the fan though. finally sick the nozzle of the air though the fan's fins and blast the heat sink fins that way.
Note: do not blast the air upside down as you may cause freeze damage to the card.
only blast in short bursts (usually >5 second long), as you could also cause freeze damage that way.
always read the can.
i did mate , BLASTED the bugger with a medium pressurised air. yeah with equal intervals too. slowly.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Pyronox i did mate , BLASTED the bugger with a medium pressurised air. yeah with equal intervals too. slowly.
Alright. This is what happened. I removed the card from the case. Undid the screws one by one. The metal casing wouldn't come off. It was beings a stubborn #$*%@. Anyways i made the best of it. I vacuumed it , then used the air blower. I guess it did the trick. Now when i Alt-Tab during a mission in star craft 2 when the battle is intense, It shows between 65 - 67. To my immense surprise. I knew this was too good to last. Then i saw the hard disk temperatures were peaking at 50 degrees, and the processor was also close to 50 .
If it isnt one thing that its the other . Oh and i still have not installed the 80mm zalman fan yet onto the case. Also the GPU fan speed is on a full blast 100 %. It reached 73-76 when i was playing resident evil.
LOL im SO tempted to try out Crysis on my rig RIGHT NOW ! XD
cheers
If it isnt one thing that its the other . Oh and i still have not installed the 80mm zalman fan yet onto the case. Also the GPU fan speed is on a full blast 100 %. It reached 73-76 when i was playing resident evil.
LOL im SO tempted to try out Crysis on my rig RIGHT NOW ! XD
cheers
those temps are perfectly fine mate your gpu wil hapilly chug along at over 100 degrees (not ideal obviously ha ha) your cpu temp is very low considering its under minor load and your hard drive temps are acceptable
Ran memtest86+ last night. PASSED. Could we eliminate the ram now...
HOLY CRAP ! this was right after i quit a heated session of Resident Evil 5.
Owch your HDD Temps Look a bit High 
im curious as to what version of speccy you are useing mine doesn't show gpu temps even though mine are normal would be nice to see those too so if someone can be a pal and throw me a bone i would apreciate it
so any updated speccy would be nice
THANKS AGAIN IN ADVANCE EVERYONE
so any updated speccy would be nice
THANKS AGAIN IN ADVANCE EVERYONE
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Solarstarshines im curious as to what version of speccy you are useing mine doesn't show gpu temps even though mine are normal would be nice to see those too so if someone can be a pal and throw me a bone i would apreciate it
so any updated speccy would be nice
THANKS AGAIN IN ADVANCE EVERYONE
so any updated speccy would be nice
THANKS AGAIN IN ADVANCE EVERYONE
there ya go. Take care
thanks alot apreciate the fast response
well thanks for the new speccy but yet again it failed to provide me with gpu temps im not going to worry about it i guess just wasn't ment to be but i can monitor it through ati overdrive
just seeing if there was a little more accurate temp gage through windows
just seeing if there was a little more accurate temp gage through windows
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Shadowjk Owch your HDD Temps Look a bit High
BTW you asked earlier in this thread about power supplies? Other than Smarteyeball's answer I didn't see any others, though I'm sure there was, at any rate here's some more info...
Info on power supplies �
- Recommended Power Supplies | silentpcreview.com
- Everything You Need to Know About Power Supplies | Hardware Secrets
- How to Buy a Power Supply - wikiHow
Good luck.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Solarstarshines well thanks for the new speccy but yet again it failed to provide me with gpu temps im not going to worry about it i guess just wasn't ment to be but i can monitor it through ati overdrive
just seeing if there was a little more accurate temp gage through windows
just seeing if there was a little more accurate temp gage through windows
Not all GPU's Have Themometers on them so your s Most Probably doesn't have One
Hope This Helps,
Josh
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Pyronox HOLY CRAP ! this was right after i quit a heated session of Resident Evil 5.
stick a spot fan pointing at your hard drive array if you want ,( i wouldnt bother tbh) and stop worrying about nowt
�� Quote: Originally Posted by archie123 hard drive opererting temps as a rule are between 30 - 50 degrees c some seagate drives will run fine at 70
BTW I have Western Digital drives and they don't go over 35! And I do some intensive stuff like photo editing as well as gaming. Here's my temps....
My two cents.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 �� Quote: Originally Posted by archie123 hard drive opererting temps as a rule are between 30 - 50 degrees c some seagate drives will run fine at 70
BTW I have Western Digital drives and they don't go over 35! And I do some intensive stuff like photo editing as well as gaming. Here's my temps....
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My two cents.
If one drive was getting hot then you could put it down to possibly a faulty drive but as they are both getting hot it must just be a high ambient , possibly also the case sits the two drives too close together , a well placed fan would sort it out if its that much of a worry
�� Quote: Originally Posted by archie123 ...but its within its opererating range maybe a little ubove but nothing to get concerned about id say.
If one drive was getting hot then you could put it down to possibly a faulty drive but as they are both getting hot it must just be a high ambient , possibly also the case sits the two drives too close together , a well placed fan would sort it out if its that much of a worry
If one drive was getting hot then you could put it down to possibly a faulty drive but as they are both getting hot it must just be a high ambient , possibly also the case sits the two drives too close together , a well placed fan would sort it out if its that much of a worry
BTW If a CPU's max temp is 100 would you be comfortable running it at 90? After all it is within range
Just a thought
i wonder why my card wouldnt come with a heat sensing unit anyway the overdrive detects the temps i would figure my card kinda being up there it would have something a little special but i guess not
You card does have a temp sensor. Just because speccy doesn't show the readings doesn't mean the card doesn't have a sensor. Have you tried GPU-Z
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