I�m having an issue with getting everything to work properly on a computer I built. It refuses to start off any of my Hard Drives regardless of if they are set as Master, Slave etc. It boots off the Ubuntu disk every now and then and will boot off the Windows XP Disc and won't boot off the Windows 7 Disk. I can successfully format and copy files to the HDD but when I restart the computer to finish the installation it won�t boot off the HDD, it just has a flashing _ . I have tried all sorts, switching out ram and different Hard Drives, DVD Drives, CD Drives. Only the basic components are installed:
CPU - Pentium Dual Core 2.2ghz
Heatsink - Stock Intel
PSU - 420W
HDD - 20GB IDE
DVD Drive
RAM -2x 512mb 533 DDR2
I just can�t pinpoint the problem. I have tried changing the IDE cables but that doesn't work either. When I plug a HDD that has Windows XP into it, it tells me there is missing files. I'm completely lost.
CPU - Pentium Dual Core 2.2ghz
Heatsink - Stock Intel
PSU - 420W
HDD - 20GB IDE
DVD Drive
RAM -2x 512mb 533 DDR2
I just can�t pinpoint the problem. I have tried changing the IDE cables but that doesn't work either. When I plug a HDD that has Windows XP into it, it tells me there is missing files. I'm completely lost.
Have you looked in your BIOS settings to make sure your HDD is recognized properly and is your #1 choice for your boot order?
Hello Commodore,
Yes I have checked. It is being recognized and is set as IDE Master. I have also tried reseating the battery and resetting the bios. Doesn't do a thing to help
Yes I have checked. It is being recognized and is set as IDE Master. I have also tried reseating the battery and resetting the bios. Doesn't do a thing to help
Also I just noticed you desciption 20 GB HDD. Is this the correct size?
Yes it is. I will be buying a bigger HDD when I get this working
Are you trying to install 32 bit or 64 bit Windows 7?
What is the SATA controller mode setting in BIOS? Set to IDE mode.
Plug in only the Win7 HD and set it as master, first to boot in BIOS.
Boot and run the HD' maker's diagnostics/repair extended CD scan using one-time BIOS Boot menu key given on first screen: HD Diagnostic
Next zero the HD using the same disk or Win7 DVD: SSD - HDD Optimize for Windows Reinstallation
Partition using Custom install>Drive options illustrated Here: Clean Install Windows 7
If this fails, repartition using Step 2.2 in Optimize tutorial to mark partition Active.
Plug in only the Win7 HD and set it as master, first to boot in BIOS.
Boot and run the HD' maker's diagnostics/repair extended CD scan using one-time BIOS Boot menu key given on first screen: HD Diagnostic
Next zero the HD using the same disk or Win7 DVD: SSD - HDD Optimize for Windows Reinstallation
Partition using Custom install>Drive options illustrated Here: Clean Install Windows 7
If this fails, repartition using Step 2.2 in Optimize tutorial to mark partition Active.
I suspect the hard drive is bad.
A 20GB HDD is OLD. They haven't made one of that size in 8-10 years. I doubt you could get a 20GB notebook hard drive 5 or 6 years ago. They just stopped making them.
If the drive is bad that will stop the PC form booting properly, I've had it happen to me.
Hard drive failing, system won't boot successfully to any device with the hard drive connected. Failed completely system won't even post.
Your problem is typical. Start an install and it seems to go OK. On reboot it can't read from the drive or can't read everything it needs from the drive. System does not load OS.
A 20GB HDD is OLD. They haven't made one of that size in 8-10 years. I doubt you could get a 20GB notebook hard drive 5 or 6 years ago. They just stopped making them.
If the drive is bad that will stop the PC form booting properly, I've had it happen to me.
Hard drive failing, system won't boot successfully to any device with the hard drive connected. Failed completely system won't even post.
Your problem is typical. Start an install and it seems to go OK. On reboot it can't read from the drive or can't read everything it needs from the drive. System does not load OS.
Hey guys, I replaced the HDD with another one (unfortunately also a 20gb) and I managed to install Windows XP. I am getting errors on startup every now and then stating that I need to insert bootable media, a restart normally fixes that. Do you think this other HDD is bad as well?
EDIT: Second HDD Failed Seatools.
EDIT: Second HDD Failed Seatools.
Hi Sam,
Run SeaTools in the first HDD.
Run SeaTools in the first HDD.
Both Hard Drive failed Sea tools. Testing my SATA 120gb now.
Sounds like if those HDD are in fault, I would RMA it.
They are over 10 years old though. I think that might be the problem.
That would explain the 20GB...!
The test on the 102gb was a Pass. I will install windows on it and see how it goes.
Check your memory, from your initial post it looks like it could be a dodgy stick rather than the hard drive.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by wilywombat 
Check your memory, from your initial post it looks like it could be a dodgy stick rather than the hard drive.
For Sam, run Memtest: RAM - Test with Memtest86+
I have one broken ram stick and one working one. That puts me down to 512mb RAM, but I'm going to buy a 1GB stick. I just tried installing windows xp but it told me after it rebooted that there is "An error loading the operating system". This will drive me crazy.
Take out the busted stick and just run XP...limp along till you get your new RAM. Best to buy 2 1GB sticks if you want 32bit win 7, more if you want 64 bit.
How come I keep getting problems installing windows even with the faulty ram out?
Where did you get your XP copy from?
The disc is fine. It's a paid for. I always keep an iso handy of all my installation discs incase something like this happens. I burnt off another copy as the original is pretty scratched, but that is irrelevant as I made the iso when the disc was brand new.
IS there any way possible that some component in the computer is wrecking my Hard Drives? Its a huge coincidence that none of them will work.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bituser IS there any way possible that some component in the computer is wrecking my Hard Drives? Its a huge coincidence that none of them will work.
Regards....Mike Connor
So do you think if I got a new HDD and RAM that it will be ok?
Here is my system specs which I forgot to post:
2 x 512mb ddr2 533 RAM
Pentium Dual Core 2.2Ghz
ECS 671T-M 775 Motherboard
420W PSU
These are the HDDs I was messing with:
DiamondMax� VL 40 -20GB
Seagate ST320414A - 20GB
I'd really like to fix this. I've been working a long time to gather the parts to build this computer and now this happens
Here is my system specs which I forgot to post:
2 x 512mb ddr2 533 RAM
Pentium Dual Core 2.2Ghz
ECS 671T-M 775 Motherboard
420W PSU
These are the HDDs I was messing with:
DiamondMax� VL 40 -20GB
Seagate ST320414A - 20GB
I'd really like to fix this. I've been working a long time to gather the parts to build this computer and now this happens
All those parts are ancient, including the motherboard! I would not waste any time on it. If you want to save yourself a lot of hassle, then get another board and use new parts.
I had a lot of trouble trying to upgrade CPU`s on boards like that. Although the CPU�s fit the socket they didn't work properly. Some didn't work at all. Just a total waste of time and money. After some research it turned out that the CPU�s the guy had were "Used", and some were not compatible anyway, even though they had the same socket.
Unless you want to use some old machine, which is still running, as a server or similar, it's just not worth messing about with them. Certainly not if you want to install Windows 7.
Regards....Mike Connor
I had a lot of trouble trying to upgrade CPU`s on boards like that. Although the CPU�s fit the socket they didn't work properly. Some didn't work at all. Just a total waste of time and money. After some research it turned out that the CPU�s the guy had were "Used", and some were not compatible anyway, even though they had the same socket.
Unless you want to use some old machine, which is still running, as a server or similar, it's just not worth messing about with them. Certainly not if you want to install Windows 7.
Regards....Mike Connor
I'm sorry but aren't newer components available in Newzealand?
Those parts are 4-5 years old, excluding the HDDs which are 10+ years old.
Now not taking your monetary situation into account certainly you can find newer parts in your part of the world.
Those parts are 4-5 years old, excluding the HDDs which are 10+ years old.
Now not taking your monetary situation into account certainly you can find newer parts in your part of the world.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Mike Connor All those parts are ancient, including the motherboard! I would not waste any time on it. If you want to save yourself a lot of hassle, then get another board and use new parts.
I had a lot of trouble trying to upgrade CPU`s on boards like that. Although the CPU�s fit the socket they didn't work properly. Some didn't work at all. Just a total waste of time and money. After some research it turned out that the CPU�s the guy had were "Used", and some were not compatible anyway, even though they had the same socket.
Unless you want to use some old machine, which is still running, as a server or similar, it's just not worth messing about with them. Certainly not if you want to install Windows 7.
Regards....Mike Connor
I had a lot of trouble trying to upgrade CPU`s on boards like that. Although the CPU�s fit the socket they didn't work properly. Some didn't work at all. Just a total waste of time and money. After some research it turned out that the CPU�s the guy had were "Used", and some were not compatible anyway, even though they had the same socket.
Unless you want to use some old machine, which is still running, as a server or similar, it's just not worth messing about with them. Certainly not if you want to install Windows 7.
Regards....Mike Connor
.@Shootist, there certainly is new parts in NZ its just that I wanted to do this cheap.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bituser �� Quote: Originally Posted by Mike Connor All those parts are ancient, including the motherboard! I would not waste any time on it. If you want to save yourself a lot of hassle, then get another board and use new parts.
I had a lot of trouble trying to upgrade CPU`s on boards like that. Although the CPU�s fit the socket they didn't work properly. Some didn't work at all. Just a total waste of time and money. After some research it turned out that the CPU�s the guy had were "Used", and some were not compatible anyway, even though they had the same socket.
Unless you want to use some old machine, which is still running, as a server or similar, it's just not worth messing about with them. Certainly not if you want to install Windows 7.
Regards....Mike Connor
I had a lot of trouble trying to upgrade CPU`s on boards like that. Although the CPU�s fit the socket they didn't work properly. Some didn't work at all. Just a total waste of time and money. After some research it turned out that the CPU�s the guy had were "Used", and some were not compatible anyway, even though they had the same socket.
Unless you want to use some old machine, which is still running, as a server or similar, it's just not worth messing about with them. Certainly not if you want to install Windows 7.
Regards....Mike Connor
.@Shootist, there certainly is new parts in NZ its just that I wanted to do this cheap.
If you just want to run an XP server, then you can get boards for 50$ (NZ) or less which will do what you want. Maybe the old discs will work on them;Motherboards - Find the best prices, information and user reviews
You can probably buy a complete second hand machine for 50$ if you look around.
Parts which don't work or are unreliable are never cheap. They are invariably the most expensive in the long run.
Regards....Mike Connor
The $50 New motherboards are from untrusted NZ shops though. I got my current MOBO for $50, the CPU for $40. I see what you mean though. This is a kind of tricky situation. Do you know how we could fix this?
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bituser The $50 New motherboards are from untrusted NZ shops though. I got my current MOBO for $50, the CPU for $40. I see what you mean though. This is a kind of tricky situation. Do you know how we could fix this?
Basically, it is just not worth it. Practically any trained technician will tell you to throw it in the recycle bin, and most of them would do likewise. There is a point in all these things beyond which it is simply not sensible to go.
Regards....Mike Connor
Not sure if Dell is in your part of the world but they sell off lease complete computers for around your top limit.
they are working PCs, for the most part.
If you go into a PC shop I bet they have some old working PCs that they are just DYING to get rid of.
they are working PCs, for the most part.
If you go into a PC shop I bet they have some old working PCs that they are just DYING to get rid of.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Mike Connor �� Quote: Originally Posted by Bituser The $50 New motherboards are from untrusted NZ shops though. I got my current MOBO for $50, the CPU for $40. I see what you mean though. This is a kind of tricky situation. Do you know how we could fix this?
Basically, it is just not worth it. Practically any trained technician will tell you to throw it in the recycle bin, and most of them would do likewise. There is a point in all these things beyond which it is simply not sensible to go.
Regards....Mike Connor
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bituser I thought it might fit into this forum because my Windows 7 computers will be connecting to the server. I'm going to need to find out how.
Resurrecting old hardware, or getting it to work together with new stuff, is hard enough for highly trained technicians with a lot of knowledge and experience, and the equipment and software which allows them to test it. Doing it "on the fly" as you describe, is more or less an impossible task, because you simply do not know what is going on. You might get something workable cobbled together by "trial and error", and you might not.
You might spend a very great deal of time and effort on it, and still not get it to work.
"Cheap" is relative, a lot depends on how you value your time, and what your expectations are in respect to the time spent. If you have no reasonable chance of realising those expectations, which in this case I don't think you have, then every further cent and every further second you spend on it is wasted.
You might be able to salvage some of what you have, but before you even try that, you need to do a lot of research into what parts are compatible with others, and also if the parts you have are even useable. The only way to do that is to have some sort of working "testbed" for those parts.
Working with so many unknowns is more or less doomed to failure.
Regards....Mike Connor
Guys , we should be trying to help and that means suggesting fixes and not necessarily panning a system. I am running windows 7 32 bit quite happily on a Core 2 Duo. It is not helpful to those that can't or don't need to splash the cash for the latest and greatest.
One thing you might like to look at Bituser is your PSU which is boardering on under power for a modern system requirement. Try a 600W or greater if you can. With respect to your hard drives, it may pay you to reformat the bigger drive and start again with XP and when you can get at least 2 * 1GB RAM sticks, go for windows 7. Hope this helps... Good luck
One thing you might like to look at Bituser is your PSU which is boardering on under power for a modern system requirement. Try a 600W or greater if you can. With respect to your hard drives, it may pay you to reformat the bigger drive and start again with XP and when you can get at least 2 * 1GB RAM sticks, go for windows 7. Hope this helps... Good luck
�� Quote: Originally Posted by wilywombat Guys , we should be trying to help and that means suggesting fixes and not necessarily panning a system. I am running windows 7 32 bit quite happily on a Core 2 Duo. It is not helpful to those that can't or don't need to splash the cash for the latest and greatest.
One thing you might like to look at Bituser is your PSU which is boardering on under power for a modern system requirement. Try a 600W or greater if you can. With respect to your hard drives, it may pay you to reformat the bigger drive and start again with XP and when you can get at least 2 * 1GB RAM sticks, go for windows 7. Hope this helps... Good luck
One thing you might like to look at Bituser is your PSU which is boardering on under power for a modern system requirement. Try a 600W or greater if you can. With respect to your hard drives, it may pay you to reformat the bigger drive and start again with XP and when you can get at least 2 * 1GB RAM sticks, go for windows 7. Hope this helps... Good luck
He does not have a system, working or otherwise, and certainly not "Modern", what he has is a nondescript collection of ancient and uncertain hardware, which apparently doesn't work when assembled.
What he wants is assistance in assembling that hardware into a workable system. I know of no sensible way to do this, and advising him to buy a new power supply is quite pointless, it will not solve any of his problems, unless the one he has happens to be defective, which nobody knows.
Finally, he does not want to install Windows 7 on it, he wants to install XP on it.
Nobody here has "panned" anything at all. Merely pointed out the futility inherent in such an undertaking.
Regards....Mike Connor
Re Windows 7...I read in OP that they tried to boot up from A windows 7 external hard drive. Apart from that suggesting that he obtain a new power supply is not as pointless as you suggest.
My comment re "Panning" was covered in the following statement from an earlier post:
"I don't see any way how anybody here can help you to fix it. Not only is it outside the parameters of this forum, which is concerned primarily with Windows 7, there is no sensible way to troubleshoot old stuff like that "from afar"
I was just trying to be slightly more helpful instead of telling OP that his efforts would be "futile".
No insult was intended in my post.
My comment re "Panning" was covered in the following statement from an earlier post:
"I don't see any way how anybody here can help you to fix it. Not only is it outside the parameters of this forum, which is concerned primarily with Windows 7, there is no sensible way to troubleshoot old stuff like that "from afar"
I was just trying to be slightly more helpful instead of telling OP that his efforts would be "futile".
No insult was intended in my post.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by wilywombat No insult was intended in my post.
For many years I was constantly faced with similar problems, as were many of my technicians. In some cases we went ahead and repaired or rebuilt old systems and hardware, after consulting with the customer and getting his go-ahead, usually because for some reason or other the customer was dependent on it for compatibility, a specific function, or some other reason.
In the majority of cases, the cost of troubleshooting old hardware and setting up systems using it, is more than the cost of a new system, often very considerably more.
Private individuals can spend as much time as they like in attempting repairs or builds like this using old stuff, and if you play around with some things long enough you may get them to work, or you may not. If any of the parts are defective, then you wont.
If you do not know which parts may be defective then you also wont, because it makes no difference how you assemble them, the resulting system will not work.
The OP stated that he did not want to spend any more money on the project. Without some new parts of good quality and provenance it is unlikely that the project will succeed. This is mainly because there is no way of knowing which parts may be defective, and the OP has no way except trial and error to test that.
The possible combinations of defective hardware are more or less infinite.
Changing any one component is extremely unlikely to solve the basic problem. You have to KNOW which parts are defective.
Finding one defect in a running computer system is not usually all that difficult. Common sense and logic will usually suffice. Finding two defects which occur simultaneously is a lot harder, finding more defects is impossible without a baseline or a way of checking the components and software concerned.
Finding possible multiple defects in a "system" which will not run at all, is impossible without the right gear. Changing any one component at random is pointless. Not least because if you do that it might well be the last component you change that finally solves the issues. So you might just as well have changed them all to begin with. In the meantime you might well have damaged some of the new components as a result of combining them with old and possibly defective hardware.
Trying to diagnose things without a baseline and the wherewithal to do so is impossible. There is no way to know what works and what doesn't.
Trying to do so is invariably a futile endeavour.
Pointing this out to somebody who is trying it, because he is not aware of the problems involved, is of much greater help than suggesting random hardware changes.
Regards....Mike Connor
Mr. Mike I totally agree with you. Trying to tinker with a antique car/computer might be a fun hobby but not main transportation. I for one understand being tight on money. The OP has already spent money and got nothing for it. Chasing bad money with good money is a waste of money. Informing the OP of this is a service. I got lost on the cheap server.
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OH I have nothing against "cheap" per se, always taking into account that with many things you get what you pay for. You can build a cheap system for use as a home server quite easily and cheaply. You can do it for fifty dollars and you don't have to build anything;
Cheap NAS. Attach a USB drive to your network
There are plenty of ways to do it;
http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-home-fileserver
Building a powerful, cheap and silent Linux NAS and HTPC server | tjansson.dk
[Solved] Cheap NAS Build - New-System-Build - Homebuilt-Systems
FreeNAS | Download FreeNAS software for free at SourceForge.net
if you search the web you will find masses of information.
However, all these things presuppose that you have a system that actually works!
I suppose you could build a Rolls Royce from scrap parts if you could find them, and they weren't damaged or otherwise unserviceable, but I don't think you would actually be driving around in it any time soon!
Regards....Mike Connor
Cheap NAS. Attach a USB drive to your network
There are plenty of ways to do it;
http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-home-fileserver
Building a powerful, cheap and silent Linux NAS and HTPC server | tjansson.dk
[Solved] Cheap NAS Build - New-System-Build - Homebuilt-Systems
FreeNAS | Download FreeNAS software for free at SourceForge.net
if you search the web you will find masses of information.
However, all these things presuppose that you have a system that actually works!
I suppose you could build a Rolls Royce from scrap parts if you could find them, and they weren't damaged or otherwise unserviceable, but I don't think you would actually be driving around in it any time soon!
Regards....Mike Connor
Wow Guys, thanks for all of this info.
@Mike, I understand what you are getting at, but I would really like to use the parts I have got if I can. If I can't, well that's it for the server.
Just an update, I have got the computer booting into Windows XP fine now. I have installed SP2 and cleaned up various things. It all appears to be running fine. CHKDSK has picked up a problem with the HDD and is trying to fix it now.
I installed Java and thought I miles well give a RAM/CPU intensive application a go, I ran minecraft server. As soon as I connect to the server from another computer I get a BSOD with the error: 0x0000008e . I suspect this might just be the fact that I have 512mb of RAM.
What is something I can run that will push the computer to the limits to see if it is going to die on me?
Really Appreciate it guys +Rep for both of you.
@Mike, I understand what you are getting at, but I would really like to use the parts I have got if I can. If I can't, well that's it for the server.
Just an update, I have got the computer booting into Windows XP fine now. I have installed SP2 and cleaned up various things. It all appears to be running fine. CHKDSK has picked up a problem with the HDD and is trying to fix it now.
I installed Java and thought I miles well give a RAM/CPU intensive application a go, I ran minecraft server. As soon as I connect to the server from another computer I get a BSOD with the error: 0x0000008e . I suspect this might just be the fact that I have 512mb of RAM.
What is something I can run that will push the computer to the limits to see if it is going to die on me?
Really Appreciate it guys +Rep for both of you.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bituser As soon as I connect to the server from another computer I get a BSOD with the error: 0x0000008e . I suspect this might just be the fact that I have 512mb of RAM.
I will do that as soon as CHKDSK is complete. Thanks Dean .
. Alright, CHKDSK completed after a while and fixed all the problems (Would only fix problems when I ran "repair" from Windows XP install disk). CHDSK scans are no longer showing any problems which is a good sign, I hope 
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Dean, I have followed the guide you sent me, here it is:
Now removed because of possible sensitive data - BitUser
.Dean, I have followed the guide you sent me, here it is:
Now removed because of possible sensitive data - BitUser
Set the time/date correctly (the dumps were set back to 2007).
Update to Service Pack 3, firstly ---> How to obtain the latest Windows XP service pack
This sounds like a RAM issue. . .!
I am not used to debug Windows XP files - perhaps someone else knows. . .?
Regards. . .
DeanP
Update to Service Pack 3, firstly ---> How to obtain the latest Windows XP service pack
This sounds like a RAM issue. . .!
I am not used to debug Windows XP files - perhaps someone else knows. . .?
Regards. . .
DeanP
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FAULTING_IP: win32k!EXFORMOBJ::vQuickInit+7 bf80452b 088b108b522c or byte ptr [ebx+2C528B10h],cl TRAP_FRAME: f75a9018 -- (.trap 0xfffffffff75a9018) ErrCode = 00000002 eax=f75a908c ebx=f75a9160 ecx=f75a90a0 edx=f75a9108 esi=f75a916c edi=00000000 eip=bf80452b esp=f75a908c ebp=f75a908c iopl=0 nv up ei ng nz na pe nc cs=0008 ss=0010 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0030 gs=0000 efl=00010286 win32k!EXFORMOBJ::vQuickInit+0x7: bf80452b 088b108b522c or byte ptr [ebx+2C528B10h],cl ds:0023:23ad1c70=?? Resetting default scope CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 2 DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: CODE_CORRUPTION BUGCHECK_STR: 0x8E PROCESS_NAME: winlogon.exe LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from bf8110be to bf80452b STACK_TEXT: f75a908c bf8110be f75a916c 00000204 f75a916c win32k!EXFORMOBJ::vQuickInit+0x7 f75a90ac bf8072d9 f75a916c e176a128 f75a90e0 win32k!PFEOBJ::bSetFontXform+0x1a f75a9130 bf807462 e176a008 00000000 00000002 win32k!RFONTOBJ::bInit+0x1a8 f75a9148 bf832b95 f75a916c 00000000 00000002 win32k!RFONTOBJ::vInit+0x16 f75a9164 bf906acb e1591530 f75a917c e17686a0 win32k!GreGetTextMetricsW+0x28 f75a91c0 bf8a33a2 01010037 f75a91d8 e17686a0 win32k!_GetTextMetricsW+0x16 f75a921c bf8a61bc 01010037 00000000 bf9a943c win32k!GetCharDimensions+0x16 f75a92e4 bf8a5f6b e17686a0 00000000 e17686a0 win32k!xxxSetNCFonts+0x87 f75a94f4 bf8af0cb e17686a0 00000000 00000001 win32k!xxxSetWindowNCMetrics+0x2c f75a9520 bf8a16bc 84027fa0 7ffdfc0e 010119c2 win32k!xxxInitWindowStation+0x31 f75a979c bf8a2d01 f75a9818 e1590701 02000000 win32k!xxxCreateWindowStation+0x149 f75a9d40 804ddf0f 0006f658 02000000 000000ac win32k!NtUserCreateWindowStation+0x33f f75a9d40 7c90eb94 0006f658 02000000 000000ac nt!KiFastCallEntry+0xfc WARNING: Frame IP not in any known module. Following frames may be wrong. 0006f96c 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 0x7c90eb94 STACK_COMMAND: kb CHKIMG_EXTENSION: !chkimg -lo 50 -d !win32k bf80452a - win32k!EXFORMOBJ::vQuickInit+6 [ 45:c5 ] 1 error : !win32k (bf80452a) MODULE_NAME: memory_corruption IMAGE_NAME: memory_corruption FOLLOWUP_NAME: memory_corruption DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 0 MEMORY_CORRUPTOR: ONE_BIT FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: MEMORY_CORRUPTION_ONE_BIT BUCKET_ID: MEMORY_CORRUPTION_ONE_BIT Followup: memory_corruption --------- 0: kd> lmtsmn start end module name f74ab000 f74d8d80 ACPI ACPI.sys Wed Aug 04 18:07:35 2004 (41107D27) f6fca000 f6febd00 afd afd.sys Wed Aug 04 18:14:13 2004 (41107EB5) f743d000 f7454480 atapi atapi.sys Wed Aug 04 17:59:41 2004 (41107B4D) f7b0a000 f7b0ac00 audstub audstub.sys Sat Aug 18 08:59:40 2001 (3B7D85BC) f7a18000 f7a19080 Beep Beep.SYS Sat Aug 18 08:47:33 2001 (3B7D82E5) f790a000 f790d000 BOOTVID BOOTVID.dll Sat Aug 18 08:49:09 2001 (3B7D8345) f772a000 f7739900 Cdfs Cdfs.SYS Wed Aug 04 18:14:09 2004 (41107EB1) f75fa000 f7606180 cdrom cdrom.sys Wed Aug 04 17:59:52 2004 (41107B58) f753a000 f7546200 CLASSPNP CLASSPNP.SYS Wed Aug 04 18:14:26 2004 (41107EC2) f752a000 f7532e00 disk disk.sys Wed Aug 04 17:59:53 2004 (41107B59) f7455000 f747a700 dmio dmio.sys Wed Aug 04 18:07:13 2004 (41107D11) f79fe000 f79ff700 dmload dmload.sys Sat Aug 18 08:58:15 2001 (3B7D8567) f6f17000 f6f2e480 dump_atapi dump_atapi.sys Wed Aug 04 17:59:41 2004 (41107B4D) f7a1e000 f7a1f100 dump_WMILIB dump_WMILIB.SYS Sat Aug 18 09:07:23 2001 (3B7D878B) f72dc000 f72de900 Dxapi Dxapi.sys Sat Aug 18 08:53:19 2001 (3B7D843F) bf9c1000 bf9d2580 dxg dxg.sys Wed Aug 04 18:00:51 2004 (41107B93) f7c06000 f7c06d00 dxgthk dxgthk.sys Sat Aug 18 08:53:12 2001 (3B7D8438) f77da000 f77e0b00 fdc fdc.sys Wed Aug 04 17:59:25 2004 (41107B3D) f76fa000 f7702880 Fips Fips.SYS Sat Aug 18 13:31:49 2001 (3B7DC585) f7812000 f7817000 flpydisk flpydisk.sys Wed Aug 04 17:59:24 2004 (41107B3C) f741e000 f743c780 fltmgr fltmgr.sys Wed Aug 04 18:01:17 2004 (41107BAD) bff50000 bff52480 framebuf framebuf.dll Wed Aug 04 19:56:31 2004 (411096AF) f7a16000 f7a17f00 Fs_Rec Fs_Rec.SYS Sat Aug 18 08:49:37 2001 (3B7D8361) f747b000 f7499880 ftdisk ftdisk.sys Sat Aug 18 08:52:41 2001 (3B7D8419) 80701000 80721d00 hal halmacpi.dll Wed Aug 04 17:59:09 2004 (41107B2D) f770a000 f7712d80 HIDCLASS HIDCLASS.SYS Wed Aug 04 18:08:18 2004 (41107D52) f7842000 f7848180 HIDPARSE HIDPARSE.SYS Wed Aug 04 18:08:15 2004 (41107D4F) f79ea000 f79ec580 hidusb hidusb.sys Sat Aug 18 09:02:16 2001 (3B7D8658) f75da000 f75e6e00 i8042prt i8042prt.sys Wed Aug 04 18:14:36 2004 (41107ECC) f75ca000 f75d2d00 intelppm intelppm.sys Wed Aug 04 17:59:19 2004 (41107B37) f6fec000 f700cf00 ipnat ipnat.sys Wed Aug 04 18:04:48 2004 (41107C80) f708d000 f709f400 ipsec ipsec.sys Wed Aug 04 18:14:27 2004 (41107EC3) f74fa000 f7502c00 isapnp isapnp.sys Sat Aug 18 08:58:01 2001 (3B7D8559) f77e2000 f77e8000 kbdclass kbdclass.sys Wed Aug 04 17:58:32 2004 (41107B08) f79fa000 f79fbb80 kdcom kdcom.dll Sat Aug 18 08:49:10 2001 (3B7D8346) f72b5000 f72d7680 ks ks.sys Wed Aug 04 18:15:20 2004 (41107EF8) f73f5000 f740b780 KSecDD KSecDD.sys Wed Aug 04 17:59:45 2004 (41107B51) f7a1a000 f7a1b080 mnmdd mnmdd.SYS Sat Aug 18 08:57:28 2001 (3B7D8538) f780a000 f780fa00 mouclass mouclass.sys Wed Aug 04 17:58:32 2004 (41107B08) f79ee000 f79f0f80 mouhid mouhid.sys Sat Aug 18 08:47:57 2001 (3B7D82FD) f750a000 f7514500 MountMgr MountMgr.sys Wed Aug 04 17:58:29 2004 (41107B05) f7251000 f7291f00 Mrv8000c Mrv8000c.sys Tue Feb 22 20:54:09 2005 (421AE521) f6f2f000 f6f9d380 mrxsmb mrxsmb.sys Wed Aug 04 18:15:14 2004 (41107EF2) f782a000 f782ea80 Msfs Msfs.SYS Wed Aug 04 18:00:37 2004 (41107B85) f764a000 f7652900 msgpc msgpc.sys Wed Aug 04 18:04:11 2004 (41107C5B) f79ae000 f79b1c80 mssmbios mssmbios.sys Wed Aug 04 18:07:47 2004 (41107D33) f7320000 f733a580 Mup Mup.sys Wed Aug 04 18:15:20 2004 (41107EF8) f733b000 f7367a80 NDIS NDIS.sys Wed Aug 04 18:14:27 2004 (41107EC3) f7992000 f7994580 ndistapi ndistapi.sys Sat Aug 18 08:55:29 2001 (3B7D84C1) f723a000 f7250680 ndiswan ndiswan.sys Wed Aug 04 18:14:30 2004 (41107EC6) f768a000 f7693480 NDProxy NDProxy.SYS Sat Aug 18 08:55:30 2001 (3B7D84C2) f76ca000 f76d2700 netbios netbios.sys Wed Aug 04 18:03:19 2004 (41107C27) f700d000 f7034c00 netbt netbt.sys Wed Aug 04 18:14:36 2004 (41107ECC) f7832000 f7839880 Npfs Npfs.SYS Wed Aug 04 18:00:38 2004 (41107B86) 804d7000 80701000 nt ntkrnlmp.exe Wed Aug 04 18:18:18 2004 (41107FAA) f7368000 f73f4480 Ntfs Ntfs.sys Wed Aug 04 18:15:06 2004 (41107EEA) f7b43000 f7b43b80 Null Null.SYS Sat Aug 18 08:47:39 2001 (3B7D82EB) f7782000 f7786900 PartMgr PartMgr.sys Sat Aug 18 13:32:23 2001 (3B7DC5A7) f749a000 f74aaa80 pci pci.sys Wed Aug 04 18:07:45 2004 (41107D31) f7ac2000 f7ac2d00 pciide pciide.sys Sat Aug 18 08:51:49 2001 (3B7D83E5) f777a000 f7780200 PCIIDEX PCIIDEX.SYS Wed Aug 04 17:59:40 2004 (41107B4C) f7229000 f7239e00 psched psched.sys Wed Aug 04 18:04:16 2004 (41107C60) f77fa000 f77fe580 ptilink ptilink.sys Sat Aug 18 08:49:53 2001 (3B7D8371) f79d2000 f79d4280 rasacd rasacd.sys Sat Aug 18 08:55:39 2001 (3B7D84CB) f761a000 f7626880 rasl2tp rasl2tp.sys Wed Aug 04 18:14:21 2004 (41107EBD) f762a000 f7634200 raspppoe raspppoe.sys Wed Aug 04 18:05:06 2004 (41107C92) f763a000 f7645d00 raspptp raspptp.sys Wed Aug 04 18:14:26 2004 (41107EC2) f7802000 f7806080 raspti raspti.sys Sat Aug 18 08:55:32 2001 (3B7D84C4) f6f9e000 f6fc9180 rdbss rdbss.sys Wed Aug 04 18:20:05 2004 (41108015) f7a1c000 f7a1d080 RDPCDD RDPCDD.sys Sat Aug 18 08:46:56 2001 (3B7D82C0) f71f8000 f7228100 rdpdr rdpdr.sys Wed Aug 04 18:01:10 2004 (41107BA6) f760a000 f7618080 redbook redbook.sys Wed Aug 04 17:59:34 2004 (41107B46) f798a000 f798dc80 serenum serenum.sys Wed Aug 04 17:59:06 2004 (41107B2A) f75ea000 f75f9d80 serial serial.sys Wed Aug 04 18:15:51 2004 (41107F17) f740c000 f741df00 sr sr.sys Wed Aug 04 18:06:22 2004 (41107CDE) f7a12000 f7a13100 swenum swenum.sys Wed Aug 04 17:58:41 2004 (41107B11) f7035000 f708ca80 tcpip tcpip.sys Wed Aug 04 18:14:39 2004 (41107ECF) f77f2000 f77f6880 TDI TDI.SYS Wed Aug 04 18:07:47 2004 (41107D33) f765a000 f7663f00 termdd termdd.sys Wed Aug 04 17:58:52 2004 (41107B1C) f754a000 f7554e80 uagp35 uagp35.sys Wed Aug 04 18:07:43 2004 (41107D2F) f719c000 f71cf200 update update.sys Wed Aug 04 17:58:32 2004 (41107B08) f7a14000 f7a15280 USBD USBD.SYS Sat Aug 18 09:02:58 2001 (3B7D8682) f769a000 f76a8100 usbhub usbhub.sys Wed Aug 04 18:08:40 2004 (41107D68) f77ea000 f77ee280 usbohci usbohci.sys Wed Aug 04 18:08:34 2004 (41107D62) f7292000 f72b4e80 USBPORT USBPORT.SYS Wed Aug 04 18:08:34 2004 (41107D62) f7822000 f7827200 vga vga.sys Wed Aug 04 18:07:06 2004 (41107D0A) f70e8000 f70fb780 VIDEOPRT VIDEOPRT.SYS Wed Aug 04 18:07:04 2004 (41107D08) f751a000 f7526c80 VolSnap VolSnap.sys Wed Aug 04 18:00:14 2004 (41107B6E) f76ba000 f76c2700 wanarp wanarp.sys Wed Aug 04 18:04:57 2004 (41107C89) f785a000 f785e500 watchdog watchdog.sys Wed Aug 04 18:07:32 2004 (41107D24) bf800000 bf9c0380 win32k win32k.sys Wed Aug 04 18:17:30 2004 (41107F7A) f79fc000 f79fd100 WMILIB WMILIB.SYS Sat Aug 18 09:07:23 2001 (3B7D878B) Unloaded modules: f76ea000 f76f5000 Imapi.SYS Timestamp: unavailable (00000000) Checksum: 00000000 ImageSize: 0000B000 f76da000 f76e3000 processr.sys Timestamp: unavailable (00000000) Checksum: 00000000 ImageSize: 00009000 f781a000 f781f000 Cdaudio.SYS Timestamp: unavailable (00000000) Checksum: 00000000 ImageSize: 00005000 f79ce000 f79d1000 Sfloppy.SYS Timestamp: unavailable (00000000) Checksum: 00000000 ImageSize: 00003000 I will see if anyone else can confirm this, but I think I'm going to just buy 1 GB ram stick for now.
Does this seem ok?
A-RAM 1GB PC-5300 667MHz DDR2, VALUE series Memory - Desktop Memory DDR2 - Elive.co.nz
Does this seem ok?
A-RAM 1GB PC-5300 667MHz DDR2, VALUE series Memory - Desktop Memory DDR2 - Elive.co.nz
I have never head of "A-RAM" before. I would read the reviews FIRST before purchasing it.
I can't seem to find reviews for it. Thats not a good sign 
How about this
http://www.notebookcity.co.nz/adata-...00-desktop-ram
How about this
http://www.notebookcity.co.nz/adata-...00-desktop-ram
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bituser @Mike, I understand what you are getting at, but I would really like to use the parts I have got if I can. If I can't, well that's it for the server.
Just an update, I have got the computer booting into Windows XP fine now. I have installed SP2 and cleaned up various things. It all appears to be running fine. CHKDSK has picked up a problem with the HDD and is trying to fix it now.
If you have it working that's fine.Well done. If you can get it reliable enough for what you want to do with it, then congratulations. Don't trust anything critical to it before you are certain it is reliable.
Regards....Mike Connor
Do you know what I can do to fully test it?
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bituser I will see if anyone else can confirm this, but I think I'm going to just buy 1 GB ram stick for now.
Does this seem ok?
A-RAM 1GB PC-5300 667MHz DDR2, VALUE series Memory - Desktop Memory DDR2 - Elive.co.nz
Does this seem ok?
A-RAM 1GB PC-5300 667MHz DDR2, VALUE series Memory - Desktop Memory DDR2 - Elive.co.nz
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bituser Do you know what I can do to fully test it?
There are quite a few things you can do to test it, but a lot depends on what you want to use it for. If you are just going to use it as a file server, then there is not much point in carrying out a lot of tests, because the machine will not be used in such a manner. This is a problem with lots of machines, how you test them is seldom analogue to what you are actually going to use them for.
The vast majority of modern high performance desktop machines are only really challenged at all by some high end games. The actual speed/performance of the machines is governed more or less entirely by the processor and peripheral chips on the board. The only real bottleneck is invariably the mass storage used, still mostly mechanical hard drives. The other major problem still to be addressed is satisfactory cooling for high performance chips. The more powerful these chips become, the larger the problem.
With an old board and CPU as you have there, it is not going to do anything spectacular, and once you actually have it running, then they tend to be fairly reliable. Just about the only things that will kill a file server like that are overheating, and damage to moving parts, like hard drives, cooling fans etc, mains power faults, and things like lightning strikes! If you want a reliable server, then use at least a power filter plug socket.( Overvoltage protection ).
Overvoltage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Multi-outlet extension lead with over-voltage protection - ELFA electronics store
This will prevent most damage due to mains power faults like high transient spikes or lightning strikes in your area. These will often kill switching power supplies and motherboards without such protection immediately.
Make sure you have a decent cooling system. Usually on these machines a heat sink coupled with a cooling fan. I would not advise you to skimp on that, because if it fails the CPU will die more or less immediately. Also, depending on where you are going to run the machine, constant noise can be really annoying, so go for a good quality fan assembly. This is worth it even on a cheap machine, as even a very good one will not cost a lot, but makes the machine much less noisy and also more reliable. I like these on machines of the type you are using, quiet, and reliable;
ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro CPU K�hler f�r Socket 775: Amazon.de: Computer & Zubeh�r
You might also like to couple that with this software for fan speed regulation among other things;
SpeedFan - Access temperature sensor in your computer
Once upon a time when building machines like the one you have we would run a so-called "Burn-in" test, at least 12 hours, usually overnight, with various test programs. If a machine was going to fail it would usually do so within that time period. This was de rigueur if you didn't want a lot of customer complaints. These were more or less all new machines. At one time we turned out thousands of them in various configurations. I assume that most good companies still do it. Comprehensive professional testing equipment and software is beyond the reach of most private individuals, mainly because of the cost, but also because you have to know how to use it, and it costs time and money to train technicians who can do it.
Here is an example of such;
QuickTech for Windows- Windows diagnostics and burn-in
They don't sell "retail packages", you can only get a tailor-made suite from them, and they will quote a price once consultations are completed on your requirements. You can get various packages from other companies, but even the cheapest setups will usually be far out of a private individual's price range.
Also, it is as well to remember that many professional technicians will see more faults in a day than many "normal" computer users will see in a lifetime. These are also often "unusual" faults to anybody except somebody who is required to diagnose and repair them. This is also one major reason why such technicians can find and cure the majority of faults very quickly, they know them from experience.
Once you have a "new" or "unknown" system up and running, as you obviously now have, then you have already passed the most difficult stages, and low level hardware diagnostics are no longer necessary.
Here are a few examples of test software you can use if you want to test various stuff. This is all freeware for personal use, and is adequate for the sort of testing you want to do.
HD Tune website
Probably the most important test software for you, especially if you are using old or suspect discs. Gives a lot of useful information.
also extremely useful;
| Seagate
Ram Tester, self explanatory.
MemTest: RAM reliability tester for Windows
Information tools;
Speccy - System Information - Free Download
http://www.hwinfo.com/ ( you want the HWiNFO32 for Windows).
Monitor tester;
Download Nokia Monitor Test 1.0.0.1 Free - Nokia Monitor Test helps you adjust your monitor to your needs - Softpedia
I have a lot of other stuff on some other machines and I will try and put it together for you later today.
Here is a fairly comprehensive selection of stuff you can try;
Monitor tools - LCD Display tools, Freeware, Free Download, computer monitor and display test tools, CRT display, LCD TFT monitor
These tools and utilities are in German, from a computer magazine which puts a lot of emphasis on hardware, but most are self-explanatory, and you should be able to use them. One of the most important from your point of view is c't BIOS:
c't-Systeminfo | c't
I will send this post now though so you can get a start with some of the stuff..............
Just one final point in this post. There is some software available for running "load testing", and similar. This is not a good idea on systems like the one you have. It can easily kill a system which otherwise might have run happily for years as a simple file server, but wont last five minutes under extreme loading, which would never actually occur in "normal" use.
Regards....Mike Connor
Hello Mike,
Wow! That was a bit to get through. I appreciate all the info though. I have taken a few things into consideration especially the fact that I should be careful testing extreme loading on such a simple computer. I'm looking into NZ prices for the Arctic Cool CPU Cooler. I have purchased another GB of RAM which I believe will be adequate for such a simple job.
I have been using Speccy on all of my computers for a while now, it almost completely replaces CPU-Z now. My CPU is running at about 24 degrees Celsius after running all day. It seems very cool to me, but I wonder what you think.
I have been messing around with computers like this for about 10 years now, but you are right in saying that I wouldn't have encountered nearly as many errors as you or any other computer professional has. I'm hoping to start a career in either Web Developement (See my current work) or Computer repairs, maintainance etc. I've been looking at degrees that I can go for.
I'm glad I am also already using a surge protector multi plug. That doesn't stop me from unplugging everything from the wall when we get lightning though!
Eventually I will add a 1TB HDD, all of which are very cheap at the moment ( Got a WD 500GB Scorpia Black 2.5" for $120 NZ ). My current HDD usage isn't very high at the moment though as I do have a data cap on my internet unfortunately. You can't do much with 10GB in a month.
After I get a new laptop I would love to try building a computer from scratch with brand new parts that I have sourced and paid for myself. Sounds like fun
.
Wow! That was a bit to get through. I appreciate all the info though. I have taken a few things into consideration especially the fact that I should be careful testing extreme loading on such a simple computer. I'm looking into NZ prices for the Arctic Cool CPU Cooler. I have purchased another GB of RAM which I believe will be adequate for such a simple job.
I have been using Speccy on all of my computers for a while now, it almost completely replaces CPU-Z now. My CPU is running at about 24 degrees Celsius after running all day. It seems very cool to me, but I wonder what you think.
I have been messing around with computers like this for about 10 years now, but you are right in saying that I wouldn't have encountered nearly as many errors as you or any other computer professional has. I'm hoping to start a career in either Web Developement (See my current work) or Computer repairs, maintainance etc. I've been looking at degrees that I can go for
.I'm glad I am also already using a surge protector multi plug. That doesn't stop me from unplugging everything from the wall when we get lightning though!
Eventually I will add a 1TB HDD, all of which are very cheap at the moment ( Got a WD 500GB Scorpia Black 2.5" for $120 NZ ). My current HDD usage isn't very high at the moment though as I do have a data cap on my internet unfortunately. You can't do much with 10GB in a month.
After I get a new laptop I would love to try building a computer from scratch with brand new parts that I have sourced and paid for myself. Sounds like fun
. 24� C is very good.
You can have a lot of fun, and also learn a lot building stuff like that, but if you are using old stuff it pays to make sure you have all the required and compatible parts BEFORE you start. There is nothing worse than rebuilding, ( or "new" building), an old machine (or indeed any other hardware or electronic devices), and then discovering that some part or other is no longer available. Often the case with RAM sticks, and various older interface chips etc.
I spent most of my career in Computers and related hardware, although I originally studied electronics. I enjoyed it, and it paid well. It's like a lot of other things, if you really want to do well then you have to enjoy what you are doing, be interested in it, and become good at it.
Anyway, glad to hear you got it running and I hope you enjoy using the result.
Regards....Mike Connor
You can have a lot of fun, and also learn a lot building stuff like that, but if you are using old stuff it pays to make sure you have all the required and compatible parts BEFORE you start. There is nothing worse than rebuilding, ( or "new" building), an old machine (or indeed any other hardware or electronic devices), and then discovering that some part or other is no longer available. Often the case with RAM sticks, and various older interface chips etc.
I spent most of my career in Computers and related hardware, although I originally studied electronics. I enjoyed it, and it paid well. It's like a lot of other things, if you really want to do well then you have to enjoy what you are doing, be interested in it, and become good at it.
Anyway, glad to hear you got it running and I hope you enjoy using the result.
Regards....Mike Connor
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Mike Connor 24� C is very good.
You can have a lot of fun, and also learn a lot building stuff like that, but if you are using old stuff it pays to make sure you have all the required and compatible parts BEFORE you start. There is nothing worse than rebuilding, ( or "new" building), an old machine (or indeed any other hardware or electronic devices), and then discovering that some part or other is no longer available. Often the case with RAM sticks, and various older interface chips etc.
I spent most of my career in Computers and related hardware, although I originally studied electronics. I enjoyed it, and it paid well. It's like a lot of other things, if you really want to do well then you have to enjoy what you are doing, be interested in it, and become good at it.
Anyway, glad to hear you got it running and I hope you enjoy using the result.
Regards....Mike Connor
You can have a lot of fun, and also learn a lot building stuff like that, but if you are using old stuff it pays to make sure you have all the required and compatible parts BEFORE you start. There is nothing worse than rebuilding, ( or "new" building), an old machine (or indeed any other hardware or electronic devices), and then discovering that some part or other is no longer available. Often the case with RAM sticks, and various older interface chips etc.
I spent most of my career in Computers and related hardware, although I originally studied electronics. I enjoyed it, and it paid well. It's like a lot of other things, if you really want to do well then you have to enjoy what you are doing, be interested in it, and become good at it.
Anyway, glad to hear you got it running and I hope you enjoy using the result.
Regards....Mike Connor
Thanks,
Sam
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bituser It sure is fun although it can get extremely tedious at times! I researched about what parts I would require and I decided to get DDR2 because it seems more common than DDR3 and DDR1 is very old.
Thanks,
Sam
Thanks,
Sam
You have to check what RAM the board can use. You must not assume anything at all. Before you install hardware of any kind you must be sure that it fits and is compatible with whatever you are installing it in.
Regards....Mike Connor
Good job Mike. Won't let me thumbs up. I will be waiting for that list.
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