simple question.
It depends on what the opinion is about, but sure it could be.
For example, if someone was to say this below....
"In my opinion, you should always do a clean install when you have any problem with Windows to fix it."
While it's just an opinion of one person, it would be considered wrong according to the majority of the public.
For example, if someone was to say this below....
"In my opinion, you should always do a clean install when you have any problem with Windows to fix it."
While it's just an opinion of one person, it would be considered wrong according to the majority of the public.
Morally and ethically an opinion can sometimes be wrong. A pirate downloading all his music, movies and software thinks it's OK. He has right to have that opinion, but because it's clearly illegal, it's also morally and ethically wrong. However, this does not mean the criminal in question does not have right to think as he does; one cornerstone of a free world is that everybody has the right to have an opinion in everything.
In a free society, I can think whatever I prefer, form opinions not based on facts but on feelings. In my opinion my wife is the absolutely most beautiful and sexy person ever lived in this world. I honestly believe that, but I bet you have another opinion. I know I'm right in this but because I understand that you as a free person have the same right to have an opinion as I do, I have to accept that yours differs from mine, that in your opinion my opinion is wrong.
Strange question...
Kari
In a free society, I can think whatever I prefer, form opinions not based on facts but on feelings. In my opinion my wife is the absolutely most beautiful and sexy person ever lived in this world. I honestly believe that, but I bet you have another opinion. I know I'm right in this but because I understand that you as a free person have the same right to have an opinion as I do, I have to accept that yours differs from mine, that in your opinion my opinion is wrong.
Strange question...
Kari
Opinions are mostly wrong. Stick to the facts.
LOL, tru dat. 
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Opinions are mostly wrong. Stick to the facts.
My opinions are the only ones that count.
My mind is made up, don't confuse me with facts.
Jim
�� Quote: Originally Posted by DirtyElf Can an opinion be wrong?
simple question.
simple question.
Who is to judge if the opinion is wrong or right?
Opinions are generally subjective statements or thoughts about issues & as such are the result of emotion or interpretation of "facts."
What prompted you to ask the question DirtyElf?
Every story has two sides.
Hitler's opinion was that the Jews were the scum of the earth. That pretty much convinces me that opinions can most definitely be wrong.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by gogreen Every story has two sides.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by MattRainier Hitler's opinion was that the Jews were the scum of the earth. That pretty much convinces me that opinions can most definitely be wrong.
it was an old topic that my roommates and I used to discuss (over many beers).. just figured id get some more opinions (haha) on the topic
personally i dont think they can be wrong (incorrect), but i will agree (in the hitler case) that opinions can be morally wrong... even that is open to interpretation tho (not hitler specifically, just anything being morally wrong) .. when you call something morally wrong what are you basing that on? your own beliefs and morals? whats to say yours aren't different than mine?
personally i dont think they can be wrong (incorrect), but i will agree (in the hitler case) that opinions can be morally wrong... even that is open to interpretation tho (not hitler specifically, just anything being morally wrong) .. when you call something morally wrong what are you basing that on? your own beliefs and morals? whats to say yours aren't different than mine?
In My Humble Opinion...............
Opinions are like anal sphincters and guess what?
Everyone has one! Even the Judges...
Opinions are like anal sphincters and guess what?
Everyone has one! Even the Judges...
Only in some cases they work and in others they don't, resulting in a load of bull**** from certain quarters.
Having said that, my opinion is always correct. When it has been proved to be wrong, I simply change my opinion so that it is right.
Having said that, my opinion is always correct. When it has been proved to be wrong, I simply change my opinion so that it is right.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Dwarf Only in some cases they work and in others they don't, resulting in a load of bull**** from certain quarters.
Having said that, my opinion is always correct. When it has been proved to be wrong, I simply change my opinion so that it is right.
Having said that, my opinion is always correct. When it has been proved to be wrong, I simply change my opinion so that it is right.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by DirtyElf simple question.
How about some ancient people whose opinion was that the world was flat and that if you sailed far enough you would fall off the edge?
Opinions vary, of course. But we get into trouble when we try to "prove" a value judgment using scientific means, or when we try to "prove" a fact with value judgments.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by strollin How about some ancient people whose opinion was that the world was flat and that if you sailed far enough you would fall off the edge?
�� Quote: Originally Posted by DirtyElf �� Quote: Originally Posted by strollin How about some ancient people whose opinion was that the world was flat and that if you sailed far enough you would fall off the edge?
�� Quote: Originally Posted by 1Bowtie �� Quote: Originally Posted by DirtyElf �� Quote: Originally Posted by strollin How about some ancient people whose opinion was that the world was flat and that if you sailed far enough you would fall off the edge?
Bowtie,
That's my opinion and I am sticking to it!
�� Quote: Originally Posted by DirtyElf simple question.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by DirtyElf simple question.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by jfar �� Quote: Originally Posted by DirtyElf simple question.
And that is my opinion, to which you are also entitled to.
People here are basically saying that an opinion can be wrong. So my opinion is that all opinions are correct, even those opinions of extremists previously mentioned! The only issue I forsee is that if someone disagrees with this opinion, I cannot disagree with them and their opinion, only respectably agree to disagree and differ in opinion, or pretend, in my opinion, that I had not seen that post in their opinion which disagrees with my opinion, in a method of opinion, rather than fact!
Facts can be right or wrong, such as the world being flat, but a point of view on a more abstract subject, an opinion, desire, attraction etc can never be wrong. Acting on that opinion, on the other hand, can be very wrong by your societies standards. No one controls what they want, what they like, what the feel, but we can control our actions. I can't stand cheese cake, most people would disagree, does that make me wrong? Nope, just unusual. No opinion, no matter how extreme, or outside of societies standards is ever wrong, it just becomes wrong if you act inappropriately based on that action.
My take on this is as follows:
Everyone has opinions about anything and everything (including themselves and each other). To the individual, all their opinions (personal and non-personal) are perceived to be correct and true, but to others these may or may not (or may only partly) be the case. As a result, opinions between individuals may agree, disagree, or partly agree. However, opinions can and do change as time and gathered knowledge/information evolves. So an opinion that is believed by an individual to be correct at the time of that individual forming the opinion on that matter, notwithstanding the right of others to agree/disagree with him/her as they so wish, and also not withstanding the right of the individual to change his/her perception of the said opinion with the passage of time which, in turn, not withstands the rights of others who might or might not have changed their own opinions on the said matter and who might or might not continue to agree/disagree with the individual or even take the opposite stance to that which existed before, in other words agree where they disagreed and disagree where they once agreed, subject of course to the rights of the individual and others to form and change opinions on the matter in question (and other matters) should they choose to do so, not withstanding the right of the individual or others to maintain the same or differing opinion(s) on that matter.
I hope that makes it all clear.
Everyone has opinions about anything and everything (including themselves and each other). To the individual, all their opinions (personal and non-personal) are perceived to be correct and true, but to others these may or may not (or may only partly) be the case. As a result, opinions between individuals may agree, disagree, or partly agree. However, opinions can and do change as time and gathered knowledge/information evolves. So an opinion that is believed by an individual to be correct at the time of that individual forming the opinion on that matter, notwithstanding the right of others to agree/disagree with him/her as they so wish, and also not withstanding the right of the individual to change his/her perception of the said opinion with the passage of time which, in turn, not withstands the rights of others who might or might not have changed their own opinions on the said matter and who might or might not continue to agree/disagree with the individual or even take the opposite stance to that which existed before, in other words agree where they disagreed and disagree where they once agreed, subject of course to the rights of the individual and others to form and change opinions on the matter in question (and other matters) should they choose to do so, not withstanding the right of the individual or others to maintain the same or differing opinion(s) on that matter.
I hope that makes it all clear.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Dwarf So an opinion that is believed by an individual to be correct at the time of that individual forming the opinion on that matter, notwithstanding the right of others to agree/disagree with him/her as they so wish, and also not withstanding the right of the individual to change his/her perception of the said opinion with the passage of time which, in turn, not withstands the rights of others who might or might not have changed their own opinions on the said matter and who might or might not continue to agree/disagree with the individual or even take the opposite stance to that which existed before, in other words agree where they disagreed and disagree where they once agreed, subject of course to the rights of the individual and others to form and change opinions on the matter in question (and other matters) should they choose to do so, not withstanding the right of the individual or others to maintain the same or differing opinion(s) on that matter.
Sorry, but the last section is incomplete. 
It should read as follows:
...not withstanding the right of the individual or others to maintain the same or differing opinion(s) on that matter, or to form new opinions on that or any other matter, to which there may or may not be agreement/disagreement subject to any possible change in the said opinion(s) which may or may not come about as detailed above.
I hope that has clarified things better.
The above is based on the sort of phrasiology that Sir Humphrey Appleby might (or might not) have used in the BBC TV comedies Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister.
It should read as follows:...not withstanding the right of the individual or others to maintain the same or differing opinion(s) on that matter, or to form new opinions on that or any other matter, to which there may or may not be agreement/disagreement subject to any possible change in the said opinion(s) which may or may not come about as detailed above.
I hope that has clarified things better.
The above is based on the sort of phrasiology that Sir Humphrey Appleby might (or might not) have used in the BBC TV comedies Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister.
In /b/, everybody's opinions are wrong
I'm sticking with my own opinion on this, which does not preclude or otherwise negate the rights of others to form should they so wish an opinion on this which may or may not agree with mine, subject to possible change in the future.
I do not know the subject of this discussion, nor do I know what you are talking about, but I very strongly disagree.
I tell my teenage daughter when she is telling me what she thinks of me (generally when she has been asked to do a chore!) ,that her opinion of me is none of my business! and to keep it to herself.
You can manage to tell the female of the species to be quiet AND live to tell the tale? �� Quote: Originally Posted by DirtyElf simple question.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Dwarf You can manage to tell the female of the species to be quiet AND live to tell the tale? While someone's personal opinion may not be factual in their opinion they feel they are making the best action so for them it is not the wrong action to take, you may not agree with their opinion but that won't make it wrong in their opinion.
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�� Quote: Originally Posted by DirtyElf simple question.
The full version of my detailed analysis, reprinted below, yields the following:
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Indication of the number of years of formal education that a person requires in order to easily understand the text on the first reading :
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�� Quote: Originally Posted by Dwarf
Number of characters (without spaces) : 955.00
Number of words : 208.00
Number of sentences : 1.00
Average number of characters per word : 4.59
Average number of syllables per word : 1.55
Average number of words per sentence: 208.00
Indication of the number of years of formal education that a person requires in order to easily understand the text on the first reading :
Gunning Fog index : 87.43
Approximate representation of the U.S. grade level needed to comprehend the text :
Coleman Liau index : 11.10
Flesh Kincaid Grade level : 83.85
ARI (Automated Readability Index) : 104.20
SMOG : 32.50
Flesch Reading Ease : -135.66
Tests Document Readability
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Dwarf So an opinion that is believed by an individual to be correct at the time of that individual forming the opinion on that matter, notwithstanding the right of others to agree/disagree with him/her as they so wish, and also not withstanding the right of the individual to change his/her perception of the said opinion with the passage of time which, in turn, not withstands the rights of others who might or might not have changed their own opinions on the said matter and who might or might not continue to agree/disagree with the individual or even take the opposite stance to that which existed before, in other words agree where they disagreed and disagree where they once agreed, subject of course to the rights of the individual and others to form and change opinions on the matter in question (and other matters) should they choose to do so, not withstanding the right of the individual or others to maintain the same or differing opinion(s) on that matter, or to form new opinions on that or any other matter, to which there may or may not be agreement/disagreement subject to any possible change in the said opinion(s) which may or may not come about as detailed above.
From a female point of view " My opinion is right , You are wrong, end of story " no further discussion needed
Just a thought, ain't WRONG an opinion?
�� Quote: Originally Posted by pebbly From a female point of view " My opinion is right , You are wrong, end of story " no further discussion needed
My Mom didn't raise a dummy.
Might as well argue with the Himalayan Mountains that they are located on the wrong continent.
Pebbly
You forgot the disclaimer in the fine print.
Warning: Opinion is subject to change at any moment. No explanation is implied or will necessarily be given.
Requesting explanation will be hazardous to your health and well being.
Requesting explanation will be hazardous to your health and well being.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by pebbly From a female point of view " My opinion is right , You are wrong, end of story " no further discussion needed
Or, as she wrote to her Facebook wall some time ago: "A secret of a successful marriage is that both husband and wife tell openly their opinion and then do as the wife says".
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Kari "A secret of a successful marriage is that both husband and wife tell openly their opinion and then do as the wife says".
You can simply file that under universal law... or at least let your girl/wife/whatever think you do
But you're right. The secret to a good relationship is to know when to speak and when to STFU
-DG
We learn much more from mistakes made than successes unknown to us. Keeping an open mind to others views may change the truths we hold so dear. This is a good practice as there always seems to be multiple ways around an obstacles in life.
Rules to live life by:
1) Be impeccable with your word
2) Don't take anything personally
3) Don't make assumtions
4) Always do your best
Rules to live life by:
1) Be impeccable with your word
2) Don't take anything personally
3) Don't make assumtions
4) Always do your best
After 37 years of marriage, I live by these 2 rules:
1. She is always right.
2. If in doubt, refer to Rule #1!
1. She is always right.
2. If in doubt, refer to Rule #1!
Opinions can have different weights. My opinion on the authenticity of a 16 century painting would not hold the same weight as a reputable expert in the field.
But we could still both be wrong.
Being wrong in this instance would be a heavier load to bear for the other guy than it would for me.
But we could still both be wrong.
Being wrong in this instance would be a heavier load to bear for the other guy than it would for me.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by niemiro People here are basically saying that an opinion can be wrong. So my opinion is that all opinions are correct, even those opinions of extremists previously mentioned! The only issue I forsee is that if someone disagrees with this opinion, I cannot disagree with them and their opinion, only respectably agree to disagree and differ in opinion, or pretend, in my opinion, that I had not seen that post in their opinion which disagrees with my opinion, in a method of opinion, rather than fact!
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