Ok heres the setup:
OS: 80g HDD
Media: 500g HDD
New Media HDD: 2T
So this is what I want to do, move my entire media HDD to the new 2T HDD.
Then I want to move the entire OS HDD to the 500g old media HDD.
I've got everything all hooked up now & am just about to format the 2T HDD.
So whats the easiest way to transfer that much data with out losing anything?
Just want to be safe.
And yes I do have everything backed up already.
Thanks.
OS: 80g HDD
Media: 500g HDD
New Media HDD: 2T
So this is what I want to do, move my entire media HDD to the new 2T HDD.
Then I want to move the entire OS HDD to the 500g old media HDD.
I've got everything all hooked up now & am just about to format the 2T HDD.
So whats the easiest way to transfer that much data with out losing anything?
Just want to be safe.
And yes I do have everything backed up already.
Thanks.
Which option do I want to pick for formating this new HDD?
Hello Johnny,
You would select the New Simple Volume option to format and create a partition with it.
Partition or Volume - Create New
Enjoy your new HDD mate.
You would select the New Simple Volume option to format and create a partition with it.
Partition or Volume - Create New
Enjoy your new HDD mate.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Brink 
Hello Johnny,
You would select the New Simple Volume option to format and create a partition with it.
Partition or Volume - Create New
Enjoy your new HDD mate.
You would select the New Simple Volume option to format and create a partition with it.
Partition or Volume - Create New
Enjoy your new HDD mate.
Any idea on the overall moving of the data?
I would just drag data over via Explorer in chunks.
Once you verify (by size) that everything is copied, wipe the 500gb HD before clean reinstalling or applying a Win7 backup image to it: Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup
Clean Install Windows 7
Clean Install with a Upgrade Windows 7 Version
You can save a backup image to the new data drive, then unplug the 80gb, boot the Win7 DVD Repair console or Repair cd, choose "Recover Using an Image" to apply the stored image to the 500gb.
If this doesn't work correctly, Macrium Reflect and Paragon Backup 10 free editions offer more options for imaging, while both WD and Seagate offer free versions of Acronis to either clone or reimage the OS:
Macrium Reflect Free - Reviews and free Macrium Reflect Free downloads at Download.com
Paragon Backup & Recovery 2010 Free Advanced - Free Download
WD Support
| Seagate
Once you verify (by size) that everything is copied, wipe the 500gb HD before clean reinstalling or applying a Win7 backup image to it: Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup
Clean Install Windows 7
Clean Install with a Upgrade Windows 7 Version
You can save a backup image to the new data drive, then unplug the 80gb, boot the Win7 DVD Repair console or Repair cd, choose "Recover Using an Image" to apply the stored image to the 500gb.
If this doesn't work correctly, Macrium Reflect and Paragon Backup 10 free editions offer more options for imaging, while both WD and Seagate offer free versions of Acronis to either clone or reimage the OS:
Macrium Reflect Free - Reviews and free Macrium Reflect Free downloads at Download.com
Paragon Backup & Recovery 2010 Free Advanced - Free Download
WD Support
| Seagate
�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker I would just drag data over via Explorer in chunks.
Once you verify (by size) that everything is copied, wipe the 500gb HD before clean reinstalling or applying a Win7 backup image to it: Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup
Clean Install Windows 7
Clean Install with a Upgrade Windows 7 Version
You can save a backup image to the new data drive, then unplug the 80gb, boot the Win7 DVD Repair console or Repair cd, choose "Recover Using an Image" to apply the stored image to the 500gb.
If this doesn't work correctly, Macrium Reflect and Paragon Backup 10 free editions offer more options for imaging, while both WD and Seagate offer free versions of Acronis to either clone or reimage the OS:
Macrium Reflect Free - Reviews and free Macrium Reflect Free downloads at Download.com
Paragon Backup & Recovery 2010 Free Advanced - Free Download
WD Support
| Seagate
Once you verify (by size) that everything is copied, wipe the 500gb HD before clean reinstalling or applying a Win7 backup image to it: Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup
Clean Install Windows 7
Clean Install with a Upgrade Windows 7 Version
You can save a backup image to the new data drive, then unplug the 80gb, boot the Win7 DVD Repair console or Repair cd, choose "Recover Using an Image" to apply the stored image to the 500gb.
If this doesn't work correctly, Macrium Reflect and Paragon Backup 10 free editions offer more options for imaging, while both WD and Seagate offer free versions of Acronis to either clone or reimage the OS:
Macrium Reflect Free - Reviews and free Macrium Reflect Free downloads at Download.com
Paragon Backup & Recovery 2010 Free Advanced - Free Download
WD Support
| Seagate
Honestly, I would do this Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup . I would also use that ability to create a system repair disk if needed. Then I'll boot my PC using that repair disk, and follow System Image Recovery
This way every thing from the whole HDD down from the last sector gets copied. Plus it's faster too as the heads don't need to go back and forth having to copy data to the MFT and the data clusters.
This way every thing from the whole HDD down from the last sector gets copied. Plus it's faster too as the heads don't need to go back and forth having to copy data to the MFT and the data clusters.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by JohnnyScience I have Paragon... should I just use that to transfer the data via "Backing up"?
It can reimage Win7 to 500gb, too.
Is there anything wrong with doing a "Quick Format"?
I unchecked it and it was just taking wayyy too long because its 2T.
But are there any disadvantages to using quick format? I'm just formatting the entire thing as one big partition...
I unchecked it and it was just taking wayyy too long because its 2T.
But are there any disadvantages to using quick format? I'm just formatting the entire thing as one big partition...
�� Quote: Originally Posted by arkhi Honestly, I would do this Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup . I would also use that ability to create a system repair disk if needed. Then I'll boot my PC using that repair disk, and follow System Image Recovery
This way every thing from the whole HDD down from the last sector gets copied. Plus it's faster too as the heads don't need to go back and forth having to copy data to the MFT and the data clusters.
This way every thing from the whole HDD down from the last sector gets copied. Plus it's faster too as the heads don't need to go back and forth having to copy data to the MFT and the data clusters.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker �� Quote: Originally Posted by JohnnyScience I have Paragon... should I just use that to transfer the data via "Backing up"?
It can reimage Win7 to 500gb, too.
I'll just move it as chunks as you suggested.
Is there anything wrong with doing a "Quick Format"?
I unchecked it and it was just taking wayyy too long because its 2T.
But are there any disadvantages to using quick format? I'm just formatting the entire thing as one big partition.
I unchecked it and it was just taking wayyy too long because its 2T.
But are there any disadvantages to using quick format? I'm just formatting the entire thing as one big partition.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by JohnnyScience �� Quote: Originally Posted by arkhi Honestly, I would do this Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup . I would also use that ability to create a system repair disk if needed. Then I'll boot my PC using that repair disk, and follow System Image Recovery
This way every thing from the whole HDD down from the last sector gets copied. Plus it's faster too as the heads don't need to go back and forth having to copy data to the MFT and the data clusters.
This way every thing from the whole HDD down from the last sector gets copied. Plus it's faster too as the heads don't need to go back and forth having to copy data to the MFT and the data clusters.
Since you already have Paragon, it's imaging function will likely serve you better than Win7's as it is more flexible. You may need to do a few Startup Repairs if the MBR is copied correctly, however. Still saves a lot of time and you're up and running with your same install.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by JohnnyScience Is there anything wrong with doing a "Quick Format"?
I unchecked it and it was just taking wayyy too long because its 2T.
But are there any disadvantages to using quick format? I'm just formatting the entire thing as one big partition.
I unchecked it and it was just taking wayyy too long because its 2T.
But are there any disadvantages to using quick format? I'm just formatting the entire thing as one big partition.
[QUOTE=gregrocker;995255][QUOTE=JohnnyScience;995251] �� Quote: Originally Posted by arkhi No it was initializing, but after like an hour it was only 14%... so I figured it would take over a day. I did the quick format & it took like a minute...
So if I'm going to use Paragon to move the OS, how do I go about it? I just create a regular backup and it will make an iso for me to use? I guess I'm a bit confused on this step...
�� Quote: Originally Posted by arkhi Honestly, I would do this Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup . I would also use that ability to create a system repair disk if needed. Then I'll boot my PC using that repair disk, and follow System Image Recovery
If Disk Management doesn't want to initialize the HD, then Create and Quick format is fine. Make sure it doesn't get marked Active.
If Disk Management doesn't want to initialize the HD, then Create and Quick format is fine. Make sure it doesn't get marked Active.
So if I'm going to use Paragon to move the OS, how do I go about it? I just create a regular backup and it will make an iso for me to use? I guess I'm a bit confused on this step...
Create a System image backup from your Paragon Backup program, stored to your new data drive.
Be sure to have it include the MBR plus the 100mb System Reserved boot partition if you have it.
Make a Paragon Boot Disk to use to apply the image.
Then unplug the 80gb source HD and plug in the 500gb target HD, boot the Paragon Boot disk, select to reimage the 500gb HD, it should autodetect the image on storage drive, offer options including any special partitioning you want, then apply the image to the target drive in minutes.
You can also try a Win7 backup image which uses the Win7 DVD Repair console to reimage. Here's how: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/663-backup-complete-computer-create-image-backup.html
Be sure to have it include the MBR plus the 100mb System Reserved boot partition if you have it.
Make a Paragon Boot Disk to use to apply the image.
Then unplug the 80gb source HD and plug in the 500gb target HD, boot the Paragon Boot disk, select to reimage the 500gb HD, it should autodetect the image on storage drive, offer options including any special partitioning you want, then apply the image to the target drive in minutes.
You can also try a Win7 backup image which uses the Win7 DVD Repair console to reimage. Here's how: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/663-backup-complete-computer-create-image-backup.html
�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker Create a System image backup from your Paragon Backup program, stored to your new data drive.
Be sure to have it include the MBR plus the 100mb System Reserved boot partition if you have it.
Make a Paragon Boot Disk to use to apply the image.
Then unplug the 80gb source HD and plug in the 500gb target HD, boot the Paragon Boot disk, select to reimage the 500gb HD, it should autodetect the image on storage drive, offer options including any special partitioning you want, then apply the image to the target drive in minutes.
You can also try a Win7 backup image which uses the Win7 DVD Repair console to reimage. Here's how: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/663-backup-complete-computer-create-image-backup.html
Be sure to have it include the MBR plus the 100mb System Reserved boot partition if you have it.
Make a Paragon Boot Disk to use to apply the image.
Then unplug the 80gb source HD and plug in the 500gb target HD, boot the Paragon Boot disk, select to reimage the 500gb HD, it should autodetect the image on storage drive, offer options including any special partitioning you want, then apply the image to the target drive in minutes.
You can also try a Win7 backup image which uses the Win7 DVD Repair console to reimage. Here's how: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/663-backup-complete-computer-create-image-backup.html
You'll need a CD to make the Paragon Boot Disk, which you boot to reimage the HD from the stored image.
But the image file itself is too big to put on disks so it needs to be stored on your new Storage HD.
Remember you can use either built-in Win7 Backup Imaging or Paragon Backup. Read the tutorial I've now linked you to twice for the Win7 imaging process so you understand it better.
But the image file itself is too big to put on disks so it needs to be stored on your new Storage HD.
Remember you can use either built-in Win7 Backup Imaging or Paragon Backup. Read the tutorial I've now linked you to twice for the Win7 imaging process so you understand it better.
Open the Paragon program then click on the help tab read the typical scenarios section which will explain Backup and restore methods then read the getting started > Building recovery media & Booting from the Linux/DOS Recovery Media (the recovery media disk you created) then when you are ready to perform your backup start the backup program & back up your current C (80 gb) Drive to another separate drive, an external drive is essential for this task as you would still be able to restore your system from the recovery media in case of a drive failure or windows not booting properly.
After you have made your backup you have 2 options to restore.
Option one, open paragon then restore your backup to the new bigger drive and after a few minutes your computer will restart and the paragon program will finish the backup then reboot into your newly restored drive.
Option two - insert the recovery media into your DVD drive, reboot computer, set dvd drive to boot first in bios or boot order key. After DVD has started paragon program select restore option then browse to the drive you want to restore to (it will not have a letter only a zero or one but will have the size listed) pick the drive size that matches the drive you are restoring to. After the backup has completed and you have removed the DVD from the drive reboot the computer into your new installation.
It is a good idea to verify both your back up and restore to ensure success.
After you have made your backup you have 2 options to restore.
Option one, open paragon then restore your backup to the new bigger drive and after a few minutes your computer will restart and the paragon program will finish the backup then reboot into your newly restored drive.
Option two - insert the recovery media into your DVD drive, reboot computer, set dvd drive to boot first in bios or boot order key. After DVD has started paragon program select restore option then browse to the drive you want to restore to (it will not have a letter only a zero or one but will have the size listed) pick the drive size that matches the drive you are restoring to. After the backup has completed and you have removed the DVD from the drive reboot the computer into your new installation.
It is a good idea to verify both your back up and restore to ensure success.
Hi all
Why not use something like Acronis and just CLONE the existing drive on to your new one.
You can dynamically change the partition size afterwards if you want by using GPARTED or several other free partitioning tools.
The problem with "Imaging" the 500 GB disk and then restoring that to your new drive where you can specify the parition size at the outset is you'll need to save the image somewhere OTHER than your new disk.
If you've got say a 250 / 320 GB usb drive handy you could save your 500 GB partition to this drive at maximum compression and then restore to your new drive.
Cheers
jimbo
Why not use something like Acronis and just CLONE the existing drive on to your new one.
You can dynamically change the partition size afterwards if you want by using GPARTED or several other free partitioning tools.
The problem with "Imaging" the 500 GB disk and then restoring that to your new drive where you can specify the parition size at the outset is you'll need to save the image somewhere OTHER than your new disk.
If you've got say a 250 / 320 GB usb drive handy you could save your 500 GB partition to this drive at maximum compression and then restore to your new drive.
Cheers
jimbo
Ok the 2T is on the last lap of copying everything over via drag & drop in chunks.
From time to time the new HDD is making weird noises, then it goes silent...
I mean I know what a HDD sounds like when it normally runs, this one sounds weird from time to time... is there anything to be alarmed about, or is it normal?
I havent decided how I want to transfer the OS yet, I'm still going back through & reading everyones suggestions.
I should also state this: my OS HDD is in two partitions, one partition is for Win7 64 & the other is for Ubuntu 64 - and I want to transfer both OS... so what is the best program/way now that I've brought this wrench into the scenario?
From time to time the new HDD is making weird noises, then it goes silent...
I mean I know what a HDD sounds like when it normally runs, this one sounds weird from time to time... is there anything to be alarmed about, or is it normal?
I havent decided how I want to transfer the OS yet, I'm still going back through & reading everyones suggestions.
I should also state this: my OS HDD is in two partitions, one partition is for Win7 64 & the other is for Ubuntu 64 - and I want to transfer both OS... so what is the best program/way now that I've brought this wrench into the scenario?
For me, I use Acronis but mine is the older version but it still does its trick. Using that, you can transfer the entire OS from your 500GB HDD to your new 2TB HDD. Of course, the backup can help you select which partition to 'restore' back and you can adjust the partition size as you transfer to a new and bigger HDD size.
That's IMO.
Thanks for looking.
That's IMO.
Thanks for looking.
Ok so all of the moving/copying is "done" but I dont think it all transfered...
My old 500g of used space: 454 GB
My new 2T of used space: 446 GB
So clearly I'm missing something
How can I find out what files I'm missing with out going through them one by one? (there are obviously thousands)
My old 500g of used space: 454 GB
My new 2T of used space: 446 GB
So clearly I'm missing something
How can I find out what files I'm missing with out going through them one by one? (there are obviously thousands)
I'm so stupid. I just remembered I had second copy n here.
damn it.
damn it.
Hmm but now I'm running Secondcopy as an Exact Copy option and the profile runs for a second & then stops.
I wish I would have just remembered this before.
I wish I would have just remembered this before.
Ok its odd, so second copy is working & adding any new files when I run its profile.
But why is there such a large difference in the size of the used disk space? I mean almost 10g is a lot to just have dissapear...
But why is there such a large difference in the size of the used disk space? I mean almost 10g is a lot to just have dissapear...
Ok this just doesnt make any sense. I'm using secondcopy to mirror & make exact copies of my main 500g Media drive (D
I'm backing it up on my new 2T drive: (M
And also on my 500g passport (k
Now M & K actually have 2.32 g MORE files than the D
So why does D still have 454 while the other two have 448? (At least I'm getting 2 out of 3!)
But they are both being exactly copied off of just D:/ ?
I'm backing it up on my new 2T drive: (M
And also on my 500g passport (k
Now M & K actually have 2.32 g MORE files than the D
So why does D still have 454 while the other two have 448? (At least I'm getting 2 out of 3!)
But they are both being exactly copied off of just D:/ ?
And I was thinking for the OS situation, I was just going to use second copy to make an exact copy after I format the 500g drive
Should work & also copy the Ubuntu partitions properly shouldnt it?
Should work & also copy the Ubuntu partitions properly shouldnt it?
Ok so I just went through every folder I moved (theres about 10 of them) and right clicked & hit properties on the old & the new and all of the folder sizes we the same, but for some reason the HDD's are still reading different overall used space?? Weird.
Anyways, now I wanted to format the old 500g media HDD (yes everything is backed up, twice!)
But under disk managment when I right click on that particular HDD, the Format option is ghosted out?
Any ideas on how to get this to un-ghost?
Anyways, now I wanted to format the old 500g media HDD (yes everything is backed up, twice!)
But under disk managment when I right click on that particular HDD, the Format option is ghosted out?
Any ideas on how to get this to un-ghost?
Hi there
Usually this is nothing to get worried about -- when for example you change a file a new cluster (or several) might be added to the file in say 4 or 6K chunks.
If a file is extended several times then there is also directory information linking the "pieces" of the file to it's physical locations on the disk.
Copying to a NEW file on a new disk will "merge" the "fragmented" pieces of the file into the base data area requiring less overall space even though the size of the file is reported as being the same.
Not a very technical explanation but I hope it helps.
For really in depth treatment you will have to look at how NTFS allocates files on disk.
Cheers
jimbo
Usually this is nothing to get worried about -- when for example you change a file a new cluster (or several) might be added to the file in say 4 or 6K chunks.
If a file is extended several times then there is also directory information linking the "pieces" of the file to it's physical locations on the disk.
Copying to a NEW file on a new disk will "merge" the "fragmented" pieces of the file into the base data area requiring less overall space even though the size of the file is reported as being the same.
Not a very technical explanation but I hope it helps.
For really in depth treatment you will have to look at how NTFS allocates files on disk.
Cheers
jimbo
Cool I understand what you're saying.
What about this:
�� Quote: Originally Posted by JohnnyScience
What about this:
�� Quote: Originally Posted by JohnnyScience Ok so I just went through every folder I moved (theres about 10 of them) and right clicked & hit properties on the old & the new and all of the folder sizes we the same, but for some reason the HDD's are still reading different overall used space?? Weird.
Anyways, now I wanted to format the old 500g media HDD (yes everything is backed up, twice!)
But under disk managment when I right click on that particular HDD, the Format option is ghosted out?
Any ideas on how to get this to un-ghost?
Anyways, now I wanted to format the old 500g media HDD (yes everything is backed up, twice!)
But under disk managment when I right click on that particular HDD, the Format option is ghosted out?
Any ideas on how to get this to un-ghost?
The only thing I can think of is that the difference in size is the data pulled over compared to the source drive. The Source drive will also have other things, such as a system voilume information which will be different from your two newer drives, which may also contain shadow copies of files previously. that will take up a percentage of the disk space and would be something you wouldn't pull over initially. Also with the other two drives, you probably have not enabled indexing or shadow copy, which will mean less disk spaced used due to lack of shadow copies or an indexing database.
Please post back a screenshot of your full Disk Mgmt drive map and listings, using Snipping Tool in Start menu.
Your 500gb drive may have the System partition on it which is blocking deletion. It needs to be recovered into Win7 first, then force deleted. You don't want it formatted if you plan to reimage Win7 to it, just wiped to overwrite any code conflict or infection: SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation
But let us see the screenshot first as there may be surprises.
Your 500gb drive may have the System partition on it which is blocking deletion. It needs to be recovered into Win7 first, then force deleted. You don't want it formatted if you plan to reimage Win7 to it, just wiped to overwrite any code conflict or infection: SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation
But let us see the screenshot first as there may be surprises.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by JohnnyScience Is there anything wrong with doing a "Quick Format"?
I unchecked it and it was just taking wayyy too long because its 2T.
But are there any disadvantages to using quick format? I'm just formatting the entire thing as one big partition.
I unchecked it and it was just taking wayyy too long because its 2T.
But are there any disadvantages to using quick format? I'm just formatting the entire thing as one big partition.
James
�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker Please post back a screenshot of your full Disk Mgmt drive map and listings, using Snipping Tool in Start menu.
Your 500gb drive may have the System partition on it which is blocking deletion. It needs to be recovered into Win7 first, then force deleted. You don't want it formatted if you plan to reimage Win7 to it, just wiped to overwrite any code conflict or infection: SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation
But let us see the screenshot first as there may be surprises.
Your 500gb drive may have the System partition on it which is blocking deletion. It needs to be recovered into Win7 first, then force deleted. You don't want it formatted if you plan to reimage Win7 to it, just wiped to overwrite any code conflict or infection: SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation
But let us see the screenshot first as there may be surprises.
Cant I just drag & drop my entire C: drive to the 500g drive? Wouldnt that be easiest?
No, C will need to be cloned or imaged onto DISK1. What is the make of both HD's involved as they may have quality cloning freeware available to use. Look at the HD's or in Device Manager under Disk Drives to google serial to find out.
I would wipe DISK1 500gb using this method: SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation If you get started on that now, we can find the best cloning or imaging app to use for transferring Win7 when it's done.
I would wipe DISK1 500gb using this method: SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation If you get started on that now, we can find the best cloning or imaging app to use for transferring Win7 when it's done.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker No, C will need to be cloned or imaged onto DISK1. What is the make of both HD's involved as they may have quality cloning freeware available to use. Look at the HD's or in Device Manager under Disk Drives to google serial to find out.
I would wipe DISK1 500gb using this method: SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation If you get started on that now, we can find the best cloning or imaging app to use for transferring Win7 when it's done.
I would wipe DISK1 500gb using this method: SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation If you get started on that now, we can find the best cloning or imaging app to use for transferring Win7 when it's done.
I'll try that read through now & see what I can do.
Seagate offers DiskWizard cloning which I believe is a free version of Acronis - one of the best.
Free Download link: http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/sup...ads/discwizard
Read the User Manual here: http://www.seagate.com/support/discwizard/dw_ug.en.pdf
Starting on page 43 of Manual it shows how to clone. I recognize it as Acronis:
From this point forward it is automatic and will do it all for you unless you want to change partitioning on target drive in subsequent steps.
It should take about 15 minutes. Once you finish, power down to unplug the old OS drive and swap its cable to the new one, or set new one first to boot in BIOS setup.
Later after testing performance you can plug back in the old OS HD to wipe using tutorial, or boot using BIOS one-time Boot menu key.
Free Download link: http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/sup...ads/discwizard
Read the User Manual here: http://www.seagate.com/support/discwizard/dw_ug.en.pdf
Starting on page 43 of Manual it shows how to clone. I recognize it as Acronis:
From this point forward it is automatic and will do it all for you unless you want to change partitioning on target drive in subsequent steps.
It should take about 15 minutes. Once you finish, power down to unplug the old OS drive and swap its cable to the new one, or set new one first to boot in BIOS setup.
Later after testing performance you can plug back in the old OS HD to wipe using tutorial, or boot using BIOS one-time Boot menu key.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker Free Acronis Download link: | Seagate
Seagate offers free Acronis cloning which is one of the best.
I'm taking a look at it now to see what it offers in the free version. Have a look yourself.
Seagate offers free Acronis cloning which is one of the best.
I'm taking a look at it now to see what it offers in the free version. Have a look yourself.
There isnt any easier way to wipe this disk without going through BIOS/restart?
Why isnt it just letting me format it through disk managment? It doesnt have any part of the OS on it...
If you now own a WD drive - Acronis True Image WD Edition Software
I have used it many times.
After checking out gregrockers seagate disk wizard link above it seems to be a similar version to the WD edition
I have used it many times.
After checking out gregrockers seagate disk wizard link above it seems to be a similar version to the WD edition
�� Quote: Originally Posted by JohnnyScience Ok cool I'll have a look here shortly.
There isnt any easier way to wipe this disk without going through BIOS/restart?
Why isnt it just letting me format it through disk managment? It doesnt have any part of the OS on it...
It has the page file on it which is blocking formatting. Wipe it to get the cleanest slate and to recreate the Page File on the System Partition.
You should be able to run DISKPART Clean All command from elevated Win7 command line as shown in tutorial. If not, boot the Win7 DVD, press Shift F10 at first screen to open Command Line.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker �� Quote: Originally Posted by JohnnyScience Ok cool I'll have a look here shortly.
There isnt any easier way to wipe this disk without going through BIOS/restart?
Why isnt it just letting me format it through disk managment? It doesnt have any part of the OS on it...
It has the page file on it which is blocking formatting. Wipe it to get the cleanest slate and to recreate the Page File on the System Partition.
You should be able to run DISKPART Clean All command from elevated Win7 command line as shown in tutorial. If not, boot the Win7 DVD, press Shift F10 at first screen to open Command Line.
Then I'll try the free seagate mirror thing
I'm just afraid I'm going to forget some steps while in Bios & not having access to the walk through via the internet... and I dont have a printer. Hmm. I'll see what I can do
Can you explain what probs have occurred re: BIOS and printer?
What was needed to do in BIOS?
What was needed to do in BIOS?
�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker Can you explain what probs have occurred re: BIOS and printer?
What was needed to do in BIOS?
What was needed to do in BIOS?
So what's the next step, use that seagate imager?
No need to format the 500gb just Clone to it raw after cleaning.
Use Automatic if you want to apply the same partitioning proportionately to the target HD, otherwise you can select which partition(s) you want and what size to make them.
Let us know how it goes.
Use Automatic if you want to apply the same partitioning proportionately to the target HD, otherwise you can select which partition(s) you want and what size to make them.
Let us know how it goes.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker No need to format the 500gb just Clone to it raw after cleaning.
Use Automatic if you want to apply the same partitioning proportionately to the target HD, otherwise you can select which partition(s) you want and what size to make them.
Let us know how it goes.
Use Automatic if you want to apply the same partitioning proportionately to the target HD, otherwise you can select which partition(s) you want and what size to make them.
Let us know how it goes.
Now I'm going to try the Seagate clone option.
Will this program also grab my other Ubuntu partition during the cloning process?
Auto Clone and hope for the best.
GRUB is always a wild card which can corrupt Win7 when on the same HD.
A better arrangement with multiple HD's is to install each to a separate HD booted via the BIOS so GRUB isn't even needed.
But you can consider that for the future, since Acronis is good enough to copy everything intact so that it starts up and runs just the same.
GRUB is always a wild card which can corrupt Win7 when on the same HD.
A better arrangement with multiple HD's is to install each to a separate HD booted via the BIOS so GRUB isn't even needed.
But you can consider that for the future, since Acronis is good enough to copy everything intact so that it starts up and runs just the same.
Ok I did an option where it was a full image backup which created a file D:/OS.tib
And is now creating all of the partitions one by one
I guess I chose the correct option?
What am I supposed to do with this D:/OS.tib file? Can I delete it once I realize all partitions have been created successfully?
I'll have to rename my new 500g from D: to C: wont I?
And is now creating all of the partitions one by one
I guess I chose the correct option?
What am I supposed to do with this D:/OS.tib file? Can I delete it once I realize all partitions have been created successfully?
I'll have to rename my new 500g from D: to C: wont I?
Did you read the steps in the Manual starting on page 43 to clone one HD to the other?
�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker If you instead stored a backup image, that is fine since you have a backup now. See page 25 of manual for how to restore the image to the target HD. Be sure to check the box to recover the MBR so it is sure to boot properly.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker Seagate offers DiskWizard cloning which I believe is a free version of Acronis - one of the best.
Free Download link: http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/downloads/discwizard
Read the User Manual here: http://www.seagate.com/support/discwizard/dw_ug.en.pdf
Starting on page 43 of Manual it shows how to clone. I recognize it as Acronis:
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From this point forward it is automatic and will do it all for you unless you want to change partitioning on target drive in subsequent steps.
It should take about 15 minutes. Once you finish, power down to unplug the old OS drive and swap its cable to the new one, or set new one first to boot in BIOS setup.
Later after testing performance you can plug back in the old OS HD to wipe using tutorial, or boot using BIOS one-time Boot menu key.
Free Download link: http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/downloads/discwizard
Read the User Manual here: http://www.seagate.com/support/discwizard/dw_ug.en.pdf
Starting on page 43 of Manual it shows how to clone. I recognize it as Acronis:
Attachment 102457
From this point forward it is automatic and will do it all for you unless you want to change partitioning on target drive in subsequent steps.
It should take about 15 minutes. Once you finish, power down to unplug the old OS drive and swap its cable to the new one, or set new one first to boot in BIOS setup.
Later after testing performance you can plug back in the old OS HD to wipe using tutorial, or boot using BIOS one-time Boot menu key.
Yeah but there wasnt actually the word Clone any where... I just followed the steps so it was making an exact copy, but still created a .tib file
The steps starting in the Manual page 43 to Clone from one HD to another do not include making a .tib file.
If you have the file made, then go back to the Imaging section and follow the exact steps to restore the saved Image starting on page 25.
Be sure to check the box to restore the MBR and Track0 so it boots correctly.
I would not change the partitioning unless you know what changes you want and are sure how to apply them. You can always do that later in Disk Mgmt and using Partition Wizard.
If you have the file made, then go back to the Imaging section and follow the exact steps to restore the saved Image starting on page 25.
Be sure to check the box to restore the MBR and Track0 so it boots correctly.
I would not change the partitioning unless you know what changes you want and are sure how to apply them. You can always do that later in Disk Mgmt and using Partition Wizard.
Hmm. I dont know if it worked properly because it only created 1 partition when it should have created 3...?
I did this when I opened up the program:
Image Backup & Image Restore>Image backup (backup the entire hard disc)
Then it walked me through creating an image backup
So I guess I didnt clone it like I was supposed to
Do I have to go back and wipe it clean again because I cant format it in disk managment
I did this when I opened up the program:
Image Backup & Image Restore>Image backup (backup the entire hard disc)
Then it walked me through creating an image backup
So I guess I didnt clone it like I was supposed to
Do I have to go back and wipe it clean again because I cant format it in disk managment
ahh I was supposed to do the "Bootable Media" option, not create an image
How can I wipe the drive quickly to retry the clone, do I have to do all of the dos prompt again?
How can I wipe the drive quickly to retry the clone, do I have to do all of the dos prompt again?
I see I can go to Computer, right click on the drive & Format is an option, I'll do that really quick & then do the Bootable Media option
I have now stated at least three times that you do not format the drive or create partitions, but clone or reimage to a raw cleaned HD.
If you format the HD then the Image Recovery utility will prompt you to remove the formatting.
Are you able to follow the Manual? Turn to page 25.
If you format the HD then the Image Recovery utility will prompt you to remove the formatting.
Are you able to follow the Manual? Turn to page 25.
see below
�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker I have now stated at least three times that you do not format the drive or create partitions, but clone or reimage to a raw cleaned HD.
Are you able to follow the Manual? Turn to page 25.
Are you able to follow the Manual? Turn to page 25.
Waiting for OP to restart from cloning after helping him on Team Viewer. In case I fall asleep here are steps to complete separating Win7 and Ubuntu to separate HD's:
You will restart to the 80gb, so test whether 550gb clone will boot on its own by rebooting and tapping the ESC key to access the BIOS Boot Menu and choose the 550gb HD to boot. On some Asus' mobos the key is F8.
If it boots and behaves well, then you can install Partition Wizard which I put on your desktop. Rightclick>Wipe both Ubuntu partitions on the 550gb, then Resize Win7 by dragging the borders to where you want them. Make sure Win7 is marked Active using Modify menu on rightclick. Wipe (not delete) the Ubuntu partitions to avoid corruption of Win7 from GRUB code.
Next power down, unplug the 80gb and swap its cable to 550gb or set it first to boot in BIOS setup (after DVD drive). Write the MBR to Win7 by booting the Win7 DVD Repair Console or Repair CD, click thru to Startup Repair to run it up to 3 separate times until it starts up: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/681-startup-repair.html?ltr=S
Now you can plug the Ubuntu 80gb HD back in, use Partition Wizard to delete Win7 off of it, Resize Ubuntu partitions as you wish, remove GRUB if you can, then boot it using the ESC key only. Don't let GRUB get its GRUBBY paws on Win7 again since they are separated now as they need to be.
If I fall asleep then I'll likely be back around 11-12 noon PST.
You will restart to the 80gb, so test whether 550gb clone will boot on its own by rebooting and tapping the ESC key to access the BIOS Boot Menu and choose the 550gb HD to boot. On some Asus' mobos the key is F8.
If it boots and behaves well, then you can install Partition Wizard which I put on your desktop. Rightclick>Wipe both Ubuntu partitions on the 550gb, then Resize Win7 by dragging the borders to where you want them. Make sure Win7 is marked Active using Modify menu on rightclick. Wipe (not delete) the Ubuntu partitions to avoid corruption of Win7 from GRUB code.
Next power down, unplug the 80gb and swap its cable to 550gb or set it first to boot in BIOS setup (after DVD drive). Write the MBR to Win7 by booting the Win7 DVD Repair Console or Repair CD, click thru to Startup Repair to run it up to 3 separate times until it starts up: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/681-startup-repair.html?ltr=S
Now you can plug the Ubuntu 80gb HD back in, use Partition Wizard to delete Win7 off of it, Resize Ubuntu partitions as you wish, remove GRUB if you can, then boot it using the ESC key only. Don't let GRUB get its GRUBBY paws on Win7 again since they are separated now as they need to be.
If I fall asleep then I'll likely be back around 11-12 noon PST.
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