Thứ Tư, 13 tháng 7, 2016

Where can I get the highest quality music ???? part 1


cemcilfa

Hello,
I love my music and am wondering where I could get the highest quality music from??
I am thinking asin downloads such as youtube converter iTunes ect...



ignatzatsonic

Youtube audio is mediocre and compressed.

Best source is high quality rips from your own CDs, probably not what you want to hear. A purist would tell you to use a lossless method like FLAC or WAV. I use mp3s at 192 or higher bitrate and can very rarely tell the difference from a CD.

Lunarpancake

look for FLAC files. FLAC is a lossless format. You can find lots of Grateful Dead in FLAC format on torrent sites. (they encourage their concerts to be recorded and given out). I dont condone piracy but im not sure where else to get FLAC or other lossless formats such as WAV.




*edit* edited FLACC to FLAC and someone beat me to this post....!@

cemcilfa

but from what souce could i get these from?
Which will come after cd's? I have heard that iTunes isint that good quality..

ignatzatsonic

I'm not positive, but I think the online stores like I-Tunes, Amazon, Rhapsody, etc all force you to take an mp3---not a lossless format like WAV or FLAC. I'm not sure about that because I don't use the stores.

If you are forced to take mp3s, all you can do is choose a high bit rate if they give you a choice. 128 kb is pretty good, but try to get 192 kb or higher if you can.

cemcilfa

Thank you very much for your help

linnemeyerhere

My suggestion would be to watch this outfit. They've been producing topflight red label and SACD's along with a rich vinyl history. Now we are about to be wowed finally by digital finally we will hear it's potential with Hi Res Downloads and eventually Hi Res Blu Ray Audio or what ever it's called but we are on the verge of getting back what CD's stole and don't even talk to me about MP3's......there not even music.......not even close!
https://www.hdtracks.com/index.php?f...pe=label&id=13

cemcilfa

hmm.:/
It seems good but not really my style of music
I prefer artists such as Trey songs, jeremih ect...

linnemeyerhere

All in due time, we are on the brink of great sound and one just needs to Google Hi-Res Audio and such to see the growth of this new download. I hope you have many extra TB's of storage and a kicking internet speed because this are HUGE files.

cemcilfa

yes my internet is very fast
And i have 2 TB internal
and 1 TB external
So there is no way of me getting the kind of quality as you have shown from artists such as trey songs, Jeremih??
Is there anywhere you kno of in which i can?

linnemeyerhere

Not saying that but if the labels aren't being asked for Hi-Res they will just take the path of least resistance. Which means they continue putting out schlock. The problem with Hi-Res is if the artist isn't recorded, produced and mixed properly then Hi-Res will just make the errors sound worse but if the stars align then what you get is the artist playing right in your room in space so real you want to cry ! I suggest trying to break out and try new artist and new sounds. Be a leader and not a follower, open up to music as "it's all good" !



Lebon14

If you like techno in general and willing to buy tracks for an higher price... go here :

Dance Downloads, MP3 & WAV Music Tracks at Juno Download

You can buy WAV tracks and they can convert them automatically to FLAC before your download.

Corpsecrank

FLAC is the highest possible quality. WAV is great but the files are insane in size at times. MP3s at 128 are the same quality as a CD anything above that is good but generally you will find MP3s at 320 which is the highest quality you are usually going to find for that format.

FLAC is hard to work with. Most players are not going to support playback and if I remember correctly it's not easy to play them back on a PC either though I could be wrong.

Your best bet is to look for MP3s at 320 they are going to be larger in size than other MP3s because of the bit rate but they will sound much better while keeping the size within reason compared to a high quality WAV file.

Graemzy

Mp3 are bad enough with out compressing them anymore. 192k is for the likes of youtube and all. its a terrible sound. all the high and low end is cut from them.

320k is your best bet for mp3 but go for wav if ya wanna get a decent download. the files are not all that big.

Another good site for dance music!

Trackitdown - Dance Music MP3/WAV/Merchandise Distribution Centre

They will never be the same a vinyl tho! Just cant beat that true sound!

LONG LIVE VINYL!!!!

noobvious

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Corpsecrank View Post
FLAC is the highest possible quality. WAV is great but the files are insane in size at times. MP3s at 128 are the same quality as a CD anything above that is good but generally you will find MP3s at 320 which is the highest quality you are usually going to find for that format.

FLAC is hard to work with. Most players are not going to support playback and if I remember correctly it's not easy to play them back on a PC either though I could be wrong.

Your best bet is to look for MP3s at 320 they are going to be larger in size than other MP3s because of the bit rate but they will sound much better while keeping the size within reason compared to a high quality WAV file.
MP3 at 128 is not the same quality as a CD....not even with my damaged ears!
And FLAC plays back easily even on my 10 year old XP computer with 512MB RAM, which is now collecting dust in the other room. I do convert it to high-bitrate MP3 for use on portable players however.

1Bowtie

I with help from my brother have converted our music collection 378 gig's to MP 3's 192 bit rate, everything from Alternative to Soundtrack's and they sound fantastic. So unless your a music critic and get paid to do it the average person will not be listening for any flaw in the music. Normally we're sitting around haveing a few drinks and it all sounds good.

ignatzatsonic

Cemcilfa:

Next time you get a chance, here is something you can do:

Think of 3 or 4 songs that you know very well. Obtain 3 or 4 versions of each of these songs--maybe a WAV version, a FLAC version, an mp3 192 bitrate version, and an mp3 128 bitrate version.

Put on a blindfold and sit in your favorite listening chair.

Let a friend control the player and have him play the various versions of these songs without telling you which versions are playing.

If you can't tell which version is playing with a high degree of accuracy time after time, there is no point in being concerned with whether you are listening to a 128 bitrate mp3 or a WAV.

I've done the test several times. It's quite revealing.

1Bowtie

+1 ignatzatsonic, i'd bet you couldn't get one in four right and the one you got was an accident

Graemzy

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by 1Bowtie View Post
I with help from my brother have converted our music collection 378 gig's to MP 3's 192 bit rate, everything from Alternative to Soundtrack's and they sound fantastic. So unless your a music critic and get paid to do it the average person will not be listening for any flaw in the music. Normally we're sitting around haveing a few drinks and it all sounds good.
You only really convert to 192 to upload to the likes of you tube or something to save on the file size. there is a big difference in the sound quality. if you get any of your tunes and get a 320kb version online or even just listin to the cd and then listen to the 192 kb version you will see just how much sound you have cut out of the track by compressing it so much! to make an mp3 so small it cuts out the highest and lowest frequencies, ones which technically older people will not be able to hear because the human ear get worse and worse as we get older. this maybe true but these are all sounds that add to the overall sound and make the track!

it will prob harder to noitice the difference if ya listen to the 192 first but if ya try it both ways you will see!

1Bowtie

The file size on 192 bit is 3.5mb to 5.5mb depending on length of song, not sure what it would be on 320bit but probably alot bigger, with that said i doubt you could tell the difference of which one was being played, same song those two bit rates

ignatzatsonic

Another thing you have to consider:

I can take a poor quality mp3 and make a WAVE file from it and upload it somewhere. Anyone listening to that WAVE file would think that WAVE files suck. So it helps to know something about the pedigree of the source file---what's the format of the original rip? In many cases, you won't know--so a random WAVE file could sound terrible.

Encoders matter also. If you are going to use mp3s, stick with recent versions of the LAME or FHG encoders.

320 mp3s tend to be 6 or 8 MB rather than maybe 4 MB for 192. I have a lot of mono files and their file size at 192 is around 2 MB--that saves a lot of space over time, but file size isn't much of an issue with drives being so cheap.



SledgeDG

It also matters a lot, what kind of music we're talking about. With some headbanger stuff you really can't hear a difference between mp3 192kbps and WAV/Flac. with classical music it's a completely different pair of shoes.
Reencoding is generally a bad thing (just like editing a JPG and save it again over and over).
Lost information is lost forever. Like ignazatsonic basically said garbage in == garbage out.
So there is no use in creating WAV/FLACs from MP3s.

-DG

Graemzy

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by 1Bowtie View Post
The file size on 192 bit is 3.5mb to 5.5mb depending on length of song, not sure what it would be on 320bit but probably alot bigger, with that said i doubt you could tell the difference of which one was being played, same song those two bit rates
you defo 110% would be able to tell the difference. it is big. for a start the 192 would be much lower! its just not the same.

for me, being a dj that plays dance music, my files tend to be about 15 - 18mb because most tunes tend to be about 6- 8 mins long. and this is at 320kb. you can tell if a tune is goin to be of poor quality before ya even check if its only 8 or 9mb.

its very hard to even mix a tune that is 192kb into a tune that is 320kb cause the sound drops off some much its terrible! i have learned that the hard way buring tunes right before a gig and not listen to or checking the bit rate before i play!

sygnus21

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by noobvious View Post
Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Corpsecrank View Post
FLAC is the highest possible quality. WAV is great but the files are insane in size at times. MP3s at 128 are the same quality as a CD anything above that is good but generally you will find MP3s at 320 which is the highest quality you are usually going to find for that format.

FLAC is hard to work with. Most players are not going to support playback and if I remember correctly it's not easy to play them back on a PC either though I could be wrong.

Your best bet is to look for MP3s at 320 they are going to be larger in size than other MP3s because of the bit rate but they will sound much better while keeping the size within reason compared to a high quality WAV file.
MP3 at 128 is not the same quality as a CD....not even with my damaged ears!
Agreed. At that rate they sound like screeching tin cans. Sorry.

Anyways I prefer Wave files but as noted they are hugely large, so I go MP3 192 for space, or 320 for better sound.

Haven't tried FLAC files as I use iTunes exclusively as my default media player.

I'm not a particular fan of MP3�s sound but I tolerate them for their convenience because of their size as it's a lot easier to carry an iPod/MP3 player then a bunch of CD's, even in a car.

cemcilfa

Thanks,,but from which site can I download (buy) RnB,Hip-Hop ect..
which is the best quality, itunes, amazon, Youtube-converter or any others???
Many thanks for your help

noobvious

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Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by noobvious View Post
Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Corpsecrank View Post
FLAC is the highest possible quality. WAV is great but the files are insane in size at times. MP3s at 128 are the same quality as a CD anything above that is good but generally you will find MP3s at 320 which is the highest quality you are usually going to find for that format.

FLAC is hard to work with. Most players are not going to support playback and if I remember correctly it's not easy to play them back on a PC either though I could be wrong.

Your best bet is to look for MP3s at 320 they are going to be larger in size than other MP3s because of the bit rate but they will sound much better while keeping the size within reason compared to a high quality WAV file.
MP3 at 128 is not the same quality as a CD....not even with my damaged ears!
Agreed. At that rate they sound like screeching tin cans. Sorry.

Anyways I prefer Wave files but as noted they are hugely large, so I go MP3 192 for space, or 320 for better sound.

Haven't tried FLAC files as I use iTunes exclusively as my default media player.
Free Lossless Audio Codec - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (FLAC) is the open-source equivalent of Apple Lossless - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (ALAC) and they both should sound identical to WAV files, assuming something didn't go wrong in the encoding process. My FLACs are typically about 60% of the size of the huge WAV files, although that varies slighty due to differences in musical complexity.

sygnus21

But will they play in iTunes?

Er never mind.... Apple Lossless - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (ALAC)

cemcilfa

which is the best quality, itunes, amazon, Youtube-converter or any others???
(and also whicj is the best player player.such as windows, winamp and itunes??????)

1Bowtie

There are no wrong opinions here it's all a matter of preference, it wouldn't make any difference what bit rate if your listening to it with desktop speakers, the better the sound system the better the music will sound. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

cemcilfa

I have a Logitech Z-5500 sound system..just need good clear track...jus dont know where from

sygnus21

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by cemcilfa View Post
which is the best quality, itunes, amazon, Youtube-converter or any others???
(and also whicj is the best player player.such as windows, winamp and itunes??????)
Since sound is relative, that is depending on who's listening to it, opinions on this will vary wildly. In the end it's your ears that will tell you what sounds best to you.

I consider myself an audiophile so MP3's to me sound dreadful. Others say they can hear no difference between the various formats, still others will say one format is superior to another, but within that format, there is no difference between the different sampling rates. Who's right?

The other thing to consider is your sound system/soundcard and speakers.

In the end it's going to be your ears determining that. Not ours.

In short, only you can answer your question.

My two cents.



ignatzatsonic

Cemcilfa:

The best thing you can do is take 10 bucks and buy 10 tunes from various sources in several different formats. Do some experimentation and make your own decision.

See if they offer choices other than mp3.

Then ultimately decide what file format you are going to stick with.

If they offer mp3 only, try 128 and a higher rate. See if you can tell the difference.

I'm not sure what the main sources are. Maybe Amazon, Apple I-Tunes, Rhapsody, Napster, and ?

The best quality isn't going to be You Tube.

Players aren't like to make a difference in the sound quality. Players differ mainly in their interfaces and what file formats they will play. Speakers will make a big difference as will your stereo system and sound card if they are involved.

cemcilfa

Is there a bitrate or format choice on iTunes??

ignatzatsonic

I don't know about "regular" I-Tunes, but I found this on the iTunes site:

iTunes Plus songs and music videos are encoded in our highest-quality, 256-Kbps AAC format.

I guess "Plus" is a higher quality and costs more?

Look out!!!!! You have to be sure your player will play the downloaded format----AAC in the case of iTunes Plus.

noobvious

I'd still say CD's. Sometimes you can get used CD's cheaper than the same album downloaded from iTunes, and as long as the CD isn't all scratched up, it's well worth the time spent to rip them yourself.

cemcilfa

But surely if they supply it they should do a download for the player??

ignatzatsonic

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by cemcilfa View Post
But surely if they supply it they should do a download for the player??
Huh??

YOU have to be sure that AAC files will play on YOUR player, whatever it is. Otherwise, you spent money for an AAC file that you can't play.

sygnus21

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by cemcilfa View Post
Is there a bitrate or format choice on iTunes??
Quick simple answer - Yes.

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This is from version 10.1.1.4

Or did you mean the song downloads? If so, I'd imagine the bit rate will be at least 360, though I don't "download" songs/CD/Movies so... As a collector I'd rather have the hard copy format.

vierasniper

who would want Grateful Dead music? even if it was free

sygnus21

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by vierasniper View Post
who would want Grateful Dead music? even if it was free
Huh

linnemeyerhere

Live concert/performance



vicnard12

choosing an audio/music player with EQ settings that suits you best matters as well..

mix n match, do some scratch, then decide!

Graemzy

This is your man for the EQ! The difference it makes to wmp is serious!

DFX Audio Enhancer for Windows Media Player - Free software downloads and software reviews - CNET Download.com

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