So as you can probably tell from my avatar, I love F1 and have been following for quite a while now. Before I spout off any further I'm wondering if there were any other F1 fanatics around here?
I'm not really a fanatic, but I do follow F1 pretty closely.
I Have been a huge F1 fan for years now.Have been to Silverstone twice and to Catalunya (Spain) a few years back.For those fans who watch it on TV every other week I highly recommend going to see a grand prix live.You think you have a good understanding of the sport untill you see the cars flying through the Abbey chicane at Silverstone at 190+ and stand there in amazement at the noise these beasts make.
I also feel that this season has been the most interesting and exciting in years with all the changes made over the winter. Just hoping McLaren pull there fingers out for the rest of the season and pull out some podiums for the Brits as I think the championship is as good as over now. Vettel and Red Bull are streets ahead another fine machine by Adrian Newey.
Danny
I also feel that this season has been the most interesting and exciting in years with all the changes made over the winter. Just hoping McLaren pull there fingers out for the rest of the season and pull out some podiums for the Brits as I think the championship is as good as over now. Vettel and Red Bull are streets ahead another fine machine by Adrian Newey.
Danny
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I also feel that this season has been the most interesting and exciting in years with all the changes made over the winter. Just hoping McLaren pull there fingers out for the rest of the season and pull out some podiums for the Brits as I think the championship is as good as over now. Vettel and Red Bull are streets ahead another fine machine by Adrian Newey.
Danny
Danny
I watch F1 sometimes along with IndyCar and the Rolex series. This is my idea of a racecar though.
the green one is one of my 1/24 diecasts.
the green one is one of my 1/24 diecasts.
Hi there.
I watch F1 on television, but have never watched racing at a circuit as it's far too expensive.
My grandson has recently completed a race mechanic's 3-year apprenticeship at Silvertone's National Colllege of Motorsport and is a big fan of Jenson Button ever since Button took him round Silverstone for a few laps in his own road car and gave him the lowdown on the complete circuit and how to cope with it.
Lewis Hamilton seems to have lost the plot recently and I don't think he'll improve much until he gets the gremlins in his head sorted out.
I watch F1 on television, but have never watched racing at a circuit as it's far too expensive.
My grandson has recently completed a race mechanic's 3-year apprenticeship at Silvertone's National Colllege of Motorsport and is a big fan of Jenson Button ever since Button took him round Silverstone for a few laps in his own road car and gave him the lowdown on the complete circuit and how to cope with it.
Lewis Hamilton seems to have lost the plot recently and I don't think he'll improve much until he gets the gremlins in his head sorted out.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by xxxdannyxxx I Have been a huge F1 fan for years now.Have been to Silverstone twice and to Catalunya (Spain) a few years back.For those fans who watch it on TV every other week I highly recommend going to see a grand prix live.You think you have a good understanding of the sport untill you see the cars flying through the Abbey chicane at Silverstone at 190+ and stand there in amazement at the noise these beasts make.
I also feel that this season has been the most interesting and exciting in years with all the changes made over the winter. Just hoping McLaren pull there fingers out for the rest of the season and pull out some podiums for the Brits as I think the championship is as good as over now. Vettel and Red Bull are streets ahead another fine machine by Adrian Newey.
Danny
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I also feel that this season has been the most interesting and exciting in years with all the changes made over the winter. Just hoping McLaren pull there fingers out for the rest of the season and pull out some podiums for the Brits as I think the championship is as good as over now. Vettel and Red Bull are streets ahead another fine machine by Adrian Newey.
Danny
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Luckily, Mark disobeyed. My man. Second year in a row for Mark where things worked against him (although not so much at all last season at Silverstone).
�� Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 Me too. Michael Schumacher languishing in the middle of the pack is entertaining too.
Although an F1 fan I have not been to a race there but I did spend a day at Silverstone a few years back doing skid pan training as part of the company drivers training. Great fun.
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Speaking of Silverstone, the RB team orders were BS, and come to think of it...hypocritical. First the chastised Ferrari for doing it with Alonso and Massa, exclaiming both drivers in their camp are treated fairly and allowed to race regardless, yet here comes Silverstone with the "Maintain the gap."
Luckily, Mark disobeyed. My man. Second year in a row for Mark where things worked against him (although not so much at all last season at Silverstone).
Luckily, Mark disobeyed. My man. Second year in a row for Mark where things worked against him (although not so much at all last season at Silverstone).
To much emphasis is placed on the constructors championship these days as that's where the money comes from with sponsorships and alike. Drivers should be allowed to race no matter what, gifting another driver a race win so they can take the maximum points is just wrong no matter how you look at it, but at least the FIA has made it clear on the rules this year so we don't have the carnage of the Massa, Scumi incident a few years back.That single handedly could have killed the sport.
Danny
�� Quote: Originally Posted by xxxdannyxxx Speaking of Silverstone, the RB team orders were BS, and come to think of it...hypocritical. First the chastised Ferrari for doing it with Alonso and Massa, exclaiming both drivers in their camp are treated fairly and allowed to race regardless, yet here comes Silverstone with the "Maintain the gap."
Luckily, Mark disobeyed. My man. Second year in a row for Mark where things worked against him (although not so much at all last season at Silverstone).
Luckily, Mark disobeyed. My man. Second year in a row for Mark where things worked against him (although not so much at all last season at Silverstone).
To much emphasis is placed on the constructors championship these days as that's where the money comes from with sponsorships and alike. Drivers should be allowed to race no matter what, gifting another driver a race win so they can take the maximum points is just wrong no matter how you look at it, but at least the FIA has made it clear on the rules this year so we don't have the carnage of the Massa, Scumi incident a few years back.That single handedly could have killed the sport.
Danny[/QUOTE]
There is a big difference between making your No 2 give way and not allowing your No 2 to potentially cause problems to your No 1 driver so late in the race especially given what happened between the two of them last year.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 There is a big difference between making your No 2 give way and not allowing your No 2 to potentially cause problems to your No 1 driver so late in the race especially given what happened between the two of them last year.
Teams where always going to (for want of a better word) rig the results in a close battle for championships and I dont have an issue with this. It was the underhanded way teams like Ferrari went about things that gave the sport a bad name. I remember Ferraris team radio last year with Massa in front "Alonso is faster than you repeat Alonso is faster than you". He may have well of said stop for a picnic and let Alonso through. That's what hurts the sport
Now, anything goes team orders are in so at least it can no longer damage the sport as its in the rules (rightly or wrongly).
My two pennies worth.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 There is a big difference between making your No 2 give way and not allowing your No 2 to potentially cause problems to your No 1 driver so late in the race especially given what happened between the two of them last year.
Hell of a lot. Vettel could have DNF'd and still been in the lead.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Terronium 12 �� Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 There is a big difference between making your No 2 give way and not allowing your No 2 to potentially cause problems to your No 1 driver so late in the race especially given what happened between the two of them last year.
Hell of a lot. Vettel could have DNF'd and still been in the lead.
Oh, I'm definitely not disputing that at all. From the point of view of the watcher, it was the wrong call as I don't want to see a driver, whether he's on the same team or otherwise backing off for what basically amounts to preemptive conditions.
I can kind of (kind of) understand it from Horner's perspective though: "They're in second and third, so let's not risk the possibility of a double DNF." Otherwise, no...let them race.
I can kind of (kind of) understand it from Horner's perspective though: "They're in second and third, so let's not risk the possibility of a double DNF." Otherwise, no...let them race.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Terronium 12 I can kind of (kind of) understand it from Horner's perspective though: "They're in second and third, so let's not risk the possibility of a double DNF." Otherwise, no...let them race.
Understanding why there are team orders is one thing, liking it is another. Viewers/Drivers perspective - it sucks. Teams perspective - Win
I was watching some British Touring Car highlights the other week and two Honda team mates were Pos 1 and 2. Driver No 2 was on a charge. He'd already blitzed through the pack to take second and wasn't going to settle.
On the final corner, of the final lap - teammate be damned - he went for it...
...out braked himself, locked tyres and slid straight into his teamamte, taking them both out of the race.
That is something Web/Vet have done (potentially do) and as crap as the decision is to us, it's understandable.
F1 overall is heading in a different direction again. V6, DRS, KERS etc. They seem to change key aspects of the sport every few years ago on a whim.
Viewers just want action. Racing on rails gets boring after awhile. But at least make it a level playing field. All these gimmicks are great when they work, but the failure rate is high and can be make or break for a driver.
As I've said, I won't refute the fact they've had their fair share on incidents and both of their race crafts were questionable last season. The one thing I can say is most of their accidents are because of Vettel. His craft was basically non-existent last season. Remember Turkey? They (RBR) tried to blame Webber but anyone who saw, cared to analyze, or read what other people have said would know Vettel tried taking a line that just wasn't...there, he turned in and boom - accident.
The funny thing is (and I may actually have this backwards as I don't remember it as vividly) Vettel gestured at Mark as if it were his fault. As if he was supposed to give way and let him ride off into the sunset. Vettel was quite the erratic one last season. I'm not say Mark's craft is a grid's length better but he sure as hell doesn't buckle under pressure, at least not from what I've seen of him. Anyone who can go from 13th (or was it 14th?) to 3rd isn't someone you sleep on. Yes, Vettel is miles more competent this season than last and has only really buckled under pressure once (which is arguable as Canada was the only real time he was being pressured consistently, other than Monaco but that resulted in a daft "We'll just hand you the win" result. My point? Yeah, it may have been the right thing to do from the team's perspective but Mark already has to settle for being 2nd no matter how good he proves himself to be, he's just an outcast and honestly I don't see resigning for next year.
Unless he has nowhere else to go.
My problem isn't with Vettel or whatever, my issue is this: Red Bull is basically becoming a lighter version of Ferrari during Schumacher's reign of terror. You have someone on the team who could possibly threaten said reign but that's not what he's there for, he's there to fend off everyone else and secure as many 1-2's as possible, yet never being in any real contention for the title because, well, that's the poster boys job. It's the same thing with Ferrari too...I really, really hated that "Alonso is faster than you..." bit from, where was it, Bahrain? My issue lies with teammates having to roll over and die just...because. Of course Massa has been off pace ever since his accident but he's had a few bursts of performance this season, and Mark has been well off the pace of Vettel this season as well so there are factors at play that could justify favoring one driver over the other in the long run but even so - I still don't care for it.
The funny thing is (and I may actually have this backwards as I don't remember it as vividly) Vettel gestured at Mark as if it were his fault. As if he was supposed to give way and let him ride off into the sunset. Vettel was quite the erratic one last season. I'm not say Mark's craft is a grid's length better but he sure as hell doesn't buckle under pressure, at least not from what I've seen of him. Anyone who can go from 13th (or was it 14th?) to 3rd isn't someone you sleep on. Yes, Vettel is miles more competent this season than last and has only really buckled under pressure once (which is arguable as Canada was the only real time he was being pressured consistently, other than Monaco but that resulted in a daft "We'll just hand you the win" result. My point? Yeah, it may have been the right thing to do from the team's perspective but Mark already has to settle for being 2nd no matter how good he proves himself to be, he's just an outcast and honestly I don't see resigning for next year.
Unless he has nowhere else to go.
My problem isn't with Vettel or whatever, my issue is this: Red Bull is basically becoming a lighter version of Ferrari during Schumacher's reign of terror. You have someone on the team who could possibly threaten said reign but that's not what he's there for, he's there to fend off everyone else and secure as many 1-2's as possible, yet never being in any real contention for the title because, well, that's the poster boys job. It's the same thing with Ferrari too...I really, really hated that "Alonso is faster than you..." bit from, where was it, Bahrain? My issue lies with teammates having to roll over and die just...because. Of course Massa has been off pace ever since his accident but he's had a few bursts of performance this season, and Mark has been well off the pace of Vettel this season as well so there are factors at play that could justify favoring one driver over the other in the long run but even so - I still don't care for it.
[QUOTE=smarteyeball;1491324] �� Quote: Originally Posted by Terronium 12
The changes are an attempt to get more exciting racing with overtaking. It seems to have worked this season except for Vettel.
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F1 overall is heading in a different direction again. V6, DRS, KERS etc. They seem to change key aspects of the sport every few years ago on a whim.
Viewers just want action. Racing on rails gets boring after awhile. But at least make it a level playing field. All these gimmicks are great when they work, but the failure rate is high and can be make or break for a driver.
F1 overall is heading in a different direction again. V6, DRS, KERS etc. They seem to change key aspects of the sport every few years ago on a whim.
Viewers just want action. Racing on rails gets boring after awhile. But at least make it a level playing field. All these gimmicks are great when they work, but the failure rate is high and can be make or break for a driver.
The changes are an attempt to get more exciting racing with overtaking. It seems to have worked this season except for Vettel.
I'm a long time Webber fan, so I'm a bit biased against Vettel, but it's incidents like Turkey which leave it hard to feel the love for Vettel.
Webber is a drivers driver - a little less precise, but a much better fighter. A proper underdog. Vettel is a technical driver, but not as good at fighting for spots on track. Come race day, Mark is the one that is putting consistent fastest laps of the race.
Overall it sucks to be the number two driver. If the spot exists to be the number one driver, even in a less completive team arises, Mark would probably take it. Otherwise he's stuck. The Ferrari superstar/support driver culture is not going anywhere, any time soon.
That shit's here to stay.
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The changes are an attempt to get more exciting racing with overtaking. It seems to have worked this season except for Vettel. There has been more passing this year which is good to see. Although the penalty a team faces when their device doesn't work is large enough to be almost unfair. It still needs a little maturing.
Webber is a drivers driver - a little less precise, but a much better fighter. A proper underdog. Vettel is a technical driver, but not as good at fighting for spots on track. Come race day, Mark is the one that is putting consistent fastest laps of the race.
Overall it sucks to be the number two driver. If the spot exists to be the number one driver, even in a less completive team arises, Mark would probably take it. Otherwise he's stuck. The Ferrari superstar/support driver culture is not going anywhere, any time soon.
That shit's here to stay.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 The changes are an attempt to get more exciting racing with overtaking. It seems to have worked this season except for Vettel.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball �� Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 The changes are an attempt to get more exciting racing with overtaking. It seems to have worked this season except for Vettel.
As you guys above have said Webber still hasnt signed for RBR for next year so Im sat here trying to think of options.The only drives I can see possibly coming up next year in the top teams would be Ferrari if they dont resign Massa or Mclaren. As you guys said Massa has under performed since his accident so would Ferrari want to replace him with Webber. Personally I dont think so, Ferrari are very much focused on the number one, number two driver scenario and as with Schumi before, Massa doesnt seem to kick up much fuss about playing second fiddle to Alonso (who I personally despise after the Mclaren season) so im not sure they would want to upset their system by bringing in another competitive driver.
So Mclaren then. Buttons going nowhere thats for sure so that leaves Lewis. Clearly unhappy this season and its showing in his racing. Childish and immature just 2 words that could sum up his season thus far.In fact its gradually got worse since his father stopped being his manager and Ron Dennis took more of a back seat within the team. After all it was Ron that agreed to sign him when he was just 8 years old.Seems like he always wants to be mothered. Hes a great driver im not saying he isnt but a very sore looser.Also im not sure Buttons and Lewis's relationship is as cosy as its made out in the media and by the team.
So i'll through this out there. I know Lewis has an extended contract at Mclaren but thats nothing money cant sort, so could we see a swap Webber for Hamilton.
Danny
So Mclaren then. Buttons going nowhere thats for sure so that leaves Lewis. Clearly unhappy this season and its showing in his racing. Childish and immature just 2 words that could sum up his season thus far.In fact its gradually got worse since his father stopped being his manager and Ron Dennis took more of a back seat within the team. After all it was Ron that agreed to sign him when he was just 8 years old.Seems like he always wants to be mothered. Hes a great driver im not saying he isnt but a very sore looser.Also im not sure Buttons and Lewis's relationship is as cosy as its made out in the media and by the team.
So i'll through this out there. I know Lewis has an extended contract at Mclaren but thats nothing money cant sort, so could we see a swap Webber for Hamilton.
Danny
That's a rumor that's been circulating since Hamilton had his choice of words at Monaco. Now it's calming down to the point where people believe he's going to re-sign with McLaren but on the premise he'll do less and less promotional work with them. I think it's still floating around that since his results at Silverstone were lackluster he'll be looking for a change of team considering McLaren haven't be in possession of a real championship-worthy car for what, three years now? First it was Brawn, and now Red Bull...and as long as Adrian is with them I don't see that changing any time soon. So if they do swap you'd have to think Webber would become Red Bull's worse enemy possible. He drove for them, he knows how the team operates, etc, etc. He could, if he felt inclined to, undermine the RB8 or 9 by taking a provisional role in the development of the MP4-27 or 28. Even if he didn't he would still have an advantage (at least mentally if the car isn't up to the task) and would have to be considered a threat anyway.
I watch F1, there's no way I'd be able to go to a live race though so have to make do with watching it on TV. It's much better viewing since going back to BBC though I'll say that. I thought the Canadian leg of the race was brilliant and well done to Jenson for the win.
Nurburgring this Sunday.
Thoughts? Predictions?
Thoughts? Predictions?
To early to call a winner, but the usual suspects will be up the pointy end.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Terronium 12 Nurburgring this Sunday.
Thoughts? Predictions?
Thoughts? Predictions?
Meanwhile back in the real world it will be interesting to see what they have done with this exhaust gas blowing through the diffusers. My understanding is that after last fortnights fiasco they have all agreed on a certain percentage of hot exhaust gas been allowed now until its outlawed next season. Therefore we should see an improvement in the McLaren as it was them it hit the hardest. We will also see if it was Ferraris updates that they brought to Silverstone that made them quick of whether is was everyone else been slower with the lack of exhaust gasses been blown.Personally I think it was mostly the latter, you dont improve a car by 1.2 secs overnight.
As for picking a winner you would be foolish not to say Vettel but I think it will be a closer one and hopefully the McLaren boys have pulled there socks up and will take the fight to Red Bull.
EDIT-Seems I was wrong as were all back to how we started the season, should be an interesting race then http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...1/7/12308.html
Danny
Nurburgring is not as good since they shortened the track.
Best thing at Silverstone was that new "flying cam" they used.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by xxxdannyxxx Schumacher to win lol.
Meanwhile back in the real world it will be interesting to see what they have done with this exhaust gas blowing through the diffusers. My understanding is that after last fortnights fiasco they have all agreed on a certain percentage of hot exhaust gas been allowed now until its outlawed next season. Therefore we should see an improvement in the McLaren as it was them it hit the hardest. We will also see if it was Ferraris updates that they brought to Silverstone that made them quick of whether is was everyone else been slower with the lack of exhaust gasses been blown.Personally I think it was mostly the latter, you dont improve a car by 1.2 secs overnight.
As for picking a winner you would be foolish not to say Vettel but I think it will be a closer one and hopefully the McLaren boys have pulled there socks up and will take the fight to Red Bull.
EDIT-Seems I was wrong as were all back to how we started the season, should be an interesting race then Formula 1
Danny
Meanwhile back in the real world it will be interesting to see what they have done with this exhaust gas blowing through the diffusers. My understanding is that after last fortnights fiasco they have all agreed on a certain percentage of hot exhaust gas been allowed now until its outlawed next season. Therefore we should see an improvement in the McLaren as it was them it hit the hardest. We will also see if it was Ferraris updates that they brought to Silverstone that made them quick of whether is was everyone else been slower with the lack of exhaust gasses been blown.Personally I think it was mostly the latter, you dont improve a car by 1.2 secs overnight.
As for picking a winner you would be foolish not to say Vettel but I think it will be a closer one and hopefully the McLaren boys have pulled there socks up and will take the fight to Red Bull.
EDIT-Seems I was wrong as were all back to how we started the season, should be an interesting race then Formula 1
Danny
I'd love to see Schumacher take a win, he would have at Canada had it not been for DRS. I'd also love (perhaps even more so) to see Kobayashi, Barrichello, or Rosberg to take a win. Of course I really want Webber to run away with it but there's too many other drivers I watch on the field to keep rooting him on.
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And there goes Ferrari's possible comeback. Onto the 2012 car they go...
Coming back to Schumi, I think he desperately need a podium or two to secure a seat for next year.I think even best buddy Ross Brawn is beginning to regret signing him now. Its odd how ive taken to him this season, I honestly couldn't stick him a few years back but this season have really felt sorry for him with all the flack he has taken.At the end of the day what he achieved in the sport will never be beaten and I think he should be shown more respect.
Danny
Schumi may not be his old, dominant self but he's not going anywhere unless it's of his own will. The guy is a marketing bonanza simply by name alone, sure Nico has consistently outperformed him all of last season and much of this season as well but as great as Rosberg is, he can't attract press and marketing attention like Michael can -- good or bad. In the event he is able to do one last successful run, he would have done so with the same team he began his career in. If he's unable to, then he would have retired from the same team he began his career with.
It sells itself either way.
It sells itself either way.
FORMULA ONE - F1: Vettel Wants 'Honesty And Respect' From A Teammate
How does anyone 'want' respect? You either earn it, or you don't.
How does anyone 'want' respect? You either earn it, or you don't.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Terronium 12 FORMULA ONE - F1: Vettel Wants 'Honesty And Respect' From A Teammate
How does anyone 'want' respect? You either earn it, or you don't.
How does anyone 'want' respect? You either earn it, or you don't.
I see in that article Lewis's name was again mentioned alongside Red Bull as a possible replacement for Mark.Not unusual for this to all be denied at this point but its been mentioned more and more at the moment.
Danny
Im sat here wondering if Vettel will get the same team order message as Mark if things pan out for him today, or will Mark have to move out of the way and let him through.Predictions for the race anyone.
1st Webber
2nd Hamilton
3rd Schumi (after a barn storming race just to prove his critics wrong lol)
Danny
1st Webber
2nd Hamilton
3rd Schumi (after a barn storming race just to prove his critics wrong lol)
Danny
If Webber has to make way for Vettel, I'd love to be in the pit lane at the end of the race to hear a few choice words being spoken.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by seavixen32 If Webber has to make way for Vettel, I'd love to be in the pit lane at the end of the race to hear a few choice words being spoken.
Danny
As much talent as Webber has and as much as I love the guy, he is awful at standing starts.
Congrats to Lewis for a sprawling victory and to Alonso for always keeping everyone (including the car he's manhandling) on their toes. As usual Vettel proves he can't overtake worth a damn and only secured fourth after Team Alonso screwed up Massa's stop. Again.
Congrats to Lewis for a sprawling victory and to Alonso for always keeping everyone (including the car he's manhandling) on their toes. As usual Vettel proves he can't overtake worth a damn and only secured fourth after Team Alonso screwed up Massa's stop. Again.
Good result today. Mclaren looking strong for the rest of the season and a big confidence boost for Lewis. As usual if Button didnt have bad luck he would have no luck at all.
RBR slowly falling apart I think. Its definitely not all roses in that team at the moment, I think theres more going on behind the scenes than their making out. Im convinced Webber wont re sign for next year if he can get a drive elsewhere, and while hes at it could do with some drive off the start line too
Then theres (I dont know how to overtake please help me im stuck behind a slower driver all race) Vettel. Bit of a reality check today for him.
Not a big Ferrari fan but Alonso drove well and kept everyone honest, should be an interesting second half of the season.
RBR slowly falling apart I think. Its definitely not all roses in that team at the moment, I think theres more going on behind the scenes than their making out. Im convinced Webber wont re sign for next year if he can get a drive elsewhere, and while hes at it could do with some drive off the start line too
Then theres (I dont know how to overtake please help me im stuck behind a slower driver all race) Vettel. Bit of a reality check today for him. Not a big Ferrari fan but Alonso drove well and kept everyone honest, should be an interesting second half of the season.
Although Lewis is still 82 points behind Vettel, his win must give him confidence for the nine races to come.
My 6-year-old grandson has gone to bed happy as he's a massive fan of Hamilton.
Not so my wife, she's in love with Alonso so I guess I'm out of luck for a while yet!
My 6-year-old grandson has gone to bed happy as he's a massive fan of Hamilton.
Not so my wife, she's in love with Alonso so I guess I'm out of luck for a while yet!
Well I felt sorry for Jenson having to listen to that radio message, we're retiring the car hydraulics problem. 
I agree Joan. Button is a good driver and a nice man too so it must be disheartening for him to have so much bad luck.
You had me going there a minute John. Nice
How about the last lap pit strategy by Ferrari and Red Bull yesterday.
How about the last lap pit strategy by Ferrari and Red Bull yesterday.
Button breaks race car.
Team owner breaks Button.
Team owner breaks Button.
Oh dear! Some people won't be pleased. F1 coming to Sky Sports | Sky Sports | Home | Latest
�� Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 Oh dear! Some people won't be pleased. F1 coming to Sky Sports | Sky Sports | Home | Latest
Danny
I've got it too and at least the coverage won't be spoiled by adverts in inconvenient places like it was when ITV had the rights.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 I've got it too and at least the coverage won't be spoiled by adverts in inconvenient places like it was when ITV had the rights.
Danny
D*** and blast, there's no way I'm paying for Sky Sports just to watch F1 as it's the only sport I would want on it. Hubby gets his cycling through British Euro Sport and that's part of our subscription.
There'll be a lot of fans who can't or wont pay to watch it, why can't they leave it where it is on BBC 1 it's been a lot better since it came back from ITV we don't have to put up with adverts interrupting the race, usually at a critical time.
There'll be a lot of fans who can't or wont pay to watch it, why can't they leave it where it is on BBC 1 it's been a lot better since it came back from ITV we don't have to put up with adverts interrupting the race, usually at a critical time.
Hey, Joan, who's your number one guy - Button I presume?
�� Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 Oh dear! Some people won't be pleased. F1 coming to Sky Sports | Sky Sports | Home | Latest
I'm a big F1 fan but i'm not gonna buy SKY just to watch F1... and how many pubs are gonna open at 6 in the morning for some of the early races that are overseas.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by PooMan UK �� Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 Oh dear! Some people won't be pleased. F1 coming to Sky Sports | Sky Sports | Home | Latest
I'm a big F1 fan but i'm not gonna buy SKY just to watch F1... and how many pubs are gonna open at 6 in the morning for some of the early races that are overseas.
Went into the lounge when the qualifying sessions were starting today and greeted by hubby telling me Ernie is a two faced *** after telling everyone that Sky wouldn't get F1 to turn around now and they are. grrrrrrrrrrrr
He reckons it will lose a lot of viewers as there'll be a lot of them who can't afford to upgrade to Sky Sports.
He reckons it will lose a lot of viewers as there'll be a lot of them who can't afford to upgrade to Sky Sports.
Bernie always has been two faced.
I would agree with you Joan. Bernie Ecclestone is, and always has been money orientated. Its clearly a money making decision and not something to promote F1 to the public. All the work that has been done the past few years to increase spectator ship in the sport ruined because of one greedy little man.
Shame on you Bernie
P.s I've just searched that only 36% of people in the UK have sky never mind sky sports. Thats a big cut in viewing figures. How is that a solid financial decision.
Shame on you Bernie
P.s I've just searched that only 36% of people in the UK have sky never mind sky sports. Thats a big cut in viewing figures. How is that a solid financial decision.
I do like F1, but I have always prefered the F2 and F3 key more.
Ah! But F1 is so helpful.
Predictions for todays race anyone. Im gonna stick my neck out
1) Hamilton
2) Alonso
3) Vettel
Danny
1) Hamilton
2) Alonso
3) Vettel
Danny
Don't write Button off. It's going to be a wet race.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 Don't write Button off. It's going to be a wet race.
Danny
Thank's Danny.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by xxxdannyxxx Predictions for todays race anyone. Im gonna stick my neck out
1) Hamilton
2) Alonso
3) Vettel
Danny
1) Hamilton
2) Alonso
3) Vettel
Danny
I like Tony Stewart. 
Fantastic race this morning (I fell asleep at the finish), well done to Button for getting the win on his 200th race.
Now there's a 3-week break.
Now there's a 3-week break.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Terronium 12 Fantastic race this morning (I fell asleep at the finish), well done to Button for getting the win on his 200th race.
Now there's a 3-week break.
Now there's a 3-week break.
3 week break. Great for the drivers and teams - boo for the spectators.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by bigmck Real men watch NASCAR.
I always thought that what made a real man a real man was his penis
F1 is finally back in the air again and this weekend we're at Spa!
Only other two tracks I'm this excited for are Monaco and Monza. Red Bull's dominance seems to be withering away at the hands of Alonso, Button, Hamilton, and Massa, and considering Spa is a high speed track the RB7 is already at a disadvantage compared to the MP4-26 and F150.
Predictions, predictions, predictions....
Only other two tracks I'm this excited for are Monaco and Monza. Red Bull's dominance seems to be withering away at the hands of Alonso, Button, Hamilton, and Massa, and considering Spa is a high speed track the RB7 is already at a disadvantage compared to the MP4-26 and F150.
Predictions, predictions, predictions....
The weather forecast light rain Friday heavy showers Saturday and fair Sunday. Should make it interesting.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 The weather forecast light rain Friday heavy showers Saturday and fair Sunday. Should make it interesting.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by MrNeeds �� Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 The weather forecast light rain Friday heavy showers Saturday and fair Sunday. Should make it interesting.
Variable conditions you would have to fancy Jenson.Like Terronium said I think Ferrari and Mclaren had caught up to RB a bit after the last race and with no testing over the summer break nothing should have changed there.
For the viewers sake I hope thats the case because another 1-2 wins for Seb and the seasons as good as over.(Plus im biased as you all know im a massive Mclaren fan)
Danny
For the viewers sake I hope thats the case because another 1-2 wins for Seb and the seasons as good as over.(Plus im biased as you all know im a massive Mclaren fan)
Danny
Well I'm hoping Jenson does well this weekend but as usual we'll have to wait and see, a lot will depend on the weather.
Joan, Jenson Button is my 19-year-old grandson's favourite current F1 driver.
He's 19 now, but when he was 8, his Dad took him to Silverstone. Matt saw Button at the circuit and asked for a photograph and Jenson couldn't have been kinder. He happily posed with the young lad while photographs were taken, and then he took the youngster on a tour of the pit lane and garage.
As a result of that, Matt decided to seek a career in F1 racing as a race engineer/technician. He's just completed his three-year apprenticeship at Silverstone and has worked with a local company building racing cars, and then running them at tracks worldwide.
He's just had an interview with Williams/Jaguar today and will know shortly whether he's been successful, but the interview went very well as money and contracts were discussed.
If he gets the job, he's been promised a transfer to the Williams F1 team in three year's time.
As his grandparents we're very proud of him and it's so good to see that not all Britain's youngsters are layabouts.
He's 19 now, but when he was 8, his Dad took him to Silverstone. Matt saw Button at the circuit and asked for a photograph and Jenson couldn't have been kinder. He happily posed with the young lad while photographs were taken, and then he took the youngster on a tour of the pit lane and garage.
As a result of that, Matt decided to seek a career in F1 racing as a race engineer/technician. He's just completed his three-year apprenticeship at Silverstone and has worked with a local company building racing cars, and then running them at tracks worldwide.
He's just had an interview with Williams/Jaguar today and will know shortly whether he's been successful, but the interview went very well as money and contracts were discussed.
If he gets the job, he's been promised a transfer to the Williams F1 team in three year's time.
As his grandparents we're very proud of him and it's so good to see that not all Britain's youngsters are layabouts.
That's incredibly inspirational.
I wish something like that had happened to me.
I wish something like that had happened to me.
Terronium, that's very kind of you to say so.
If the lad gets the job we know he'll be offered better terms at his current job as he is highly thought of there.
However, there'll be no possibility of progression to an F1 team so he knows in his own mind which course he's got to take.
If the lad gets the job we know he'll be offered better terms at his current job as he is highly thought of there.
However, there'll be no possibility of progression to an F1 team so he knows in his own mind which course he's got to take.
Good luck to him Andrew, from seeing him on television and hearing about him Jenson does come over as being a really nice person so I can imagine it was a very big thrill for your grandson when he met him.
Wishing him the best of luck in whichever route he goes with.
Wishing him the best of luck in whichever route he goes with.
Goodafternoon my name is jos roessen member of W7 forum Yes i follow F1 since 1994 and recorded several races through the years on ..Vintage video...hahahaha but the are in still working order with a pile of brand new tapes...watcht in the past day,s early Spa Francorchamps tapes from early years ..to get in the mood this weekend the main event at home ...here Arnhem the Netherlands...hahahaha
So greetzzz from the city of Arnhem Holland......Jos...also on Facebook..
So greetzzz from the city of Arnhem Holland......Jos...also on Facebook..
Hello josroessen and welcome
�� Quote: Originally Posted by seavixen32 Terronium, that's very kind of you to say so.
If the lad gets the job we know he'll be offered better terms at his current job as he is highly thought of there.
However, there'll be no possibility of progression to an F1 team so he knows in his own mind which course he's got to take.
If the lad gets the job we know he'll be offered better terms at his current job as he is highly thought of there.
However, there'll be no possibility of progression to an F1 team so he knows in his own mind which course he's got to take.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Joan Archer Good luck to him Andrew, from seeing him on television and hearing about him Jenson does come over as being a really nice person so I can imagine it was a very big thrill for your grandson when he met him.
Wishing him the best of luck in whichever route he goes with.
Wishing him the best of luck in whichever route he goes with.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Terronium 12 �� Quote: Originally Posted by seavixen32 Terronium, that's very kind of you to say so.
If the lad gets the job we know he'll be offered better terms at his current job as he is highly thought of there.
However, there'll be no possibility of progression to an F1 team so he knows in his own mind which course he's got to take.
If the lad gets the job we know he'll be offered better terms at his current job as he is highly thought of there.
However, there'll be no possibility of progression to an F1 team so he knows in his own mind which course he's got to take.
Not sure this is a good move Bruno Senna for Nick Heidfeld.He could barely keep an F1 car on the grey stuff and out of other drivers carbon fibre during his first brief visit to F1. Definitely not a case of "Like father like son" - Formula 1
Danny
Danny
�� Quote: Originally Posted by xxxdannyxxx Not sure this is a good move Bruno Senna for Nick Heidfeld.
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�� Quote: Originally Posted by seavixen32 �� Quote: Originally Posted by Terronium 12 �� Quote: Originally Posted by seavixen32 Terronium, that's very kind of you to say so.
If the lad gets the job we know he'll be offered better terms at his current job as he is highly thought of there.
However, there'll be no possibility of progression to an F1 team so he knows in his own mind which course he's got to take.
If the lad gets the job we know he'll be offered better terms at his current job as he is highly thought of there.
However, there'll be no possibility of progression to an F1 team so he knows in his own mind which course he's got to take.
He's received a telephone call confirming he's been offered the position and his contract is on its way for his signature.
Obviously, I can't discuss confidential matters on a forum, suffice to say it's a great job with great prospects and we're delighted for him.
That's fantastic news. Make sure he gets Rubino's autograph!
Yes I have been interested in F1 since I was 14 years old and still follow it .
when I was young people thought I was nerd for following it. But things are different now due to BERNIE ECCOLSTONE
reply if you can
when I was young people thought I was nerd for following it. But things are different now due to BERNIE ECCOLSTONE
reply if you can
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Terronium 12 That's fantastic news. Make sure he gets Rubino's autograph!
�� Quote: Originally Posted by seavixen32 Get his autograph? The young whippersnapper will be after his car!
Get me an autograph then.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Terronium 12 �� Quote: Originally Posted by seavixen32 Get his autograph? The young whippersnapper will be after his car!
Get me an autograph then.
Danny
Didn't Jenson do well though and Michael, it was a good race.
Fantastic race and once again Jenson showed everyone how you go from the back of the pack up to the podium! He sure knows how to look after those tyres, thanks to his dad refusing to buy him wets when he was karting.
Again JENSON showing his experience rather than the kid with all the help,l
both exelent drivers but two different worlds
both exelent drivers but two different worlds
I think Martin Brundle summed up Jenson Button quite well with "The Thinker"
I think the main difference between Jenson and Lewis is in the head.
One has a brain that he uses to his advantage, the other is not even aware he's got a brain at times.
One has a brain that he uses to his advantage, the other is not even aware he's got a brain at times.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by seavixen32 I think the main difference between Jenson and Lewis is in the head.
One has a brain that he uses to his advantage, the other is not even aware he's got a brain at times.
One has a brain that he uses to his advantage, the other is not even aware he's got a brain at times.
I hope he does.
He's proved he can drive and if he could temper his aggression with some of Jenson's smooth technique, Lewis would be a better driver overnight.
Ditching his Dad was a big mistake that has now been rectified, but I think it has caused lasting psychological damage.
He's proved he can drive and if he could temper his aggression with some of Jenson's smooth technique, Lewis would be a better driver overnight.
Ditching his Dad was a big mistake that has now been rectified, but I think it has caused lasting psychological damage.
He is maturing, compared to 2 years ago, he's no longer that silly littlerisk taking boy, but he's got a long way to come with his temper.
Quite impressed with Mr Alonso though, he's being very reserved but consistent of late
Quite impressed with Mr Alonso though, he's being very reserved but consistent of late
It's funny how everyone thinks Hammy's father is the root of his recent jackassery. I'm not arguing against it, I'm just saying of every F1-related thread I've been in that's the basic summation. I must haven't been paying enough attention to notice it.
Anyhoo, the race was fantastic, right up until the second half; started off fantastically, full of excitment, crashes, the Safety Car, and even droplets of rain. Once the second half of the race came around it, somehow, became progressively boring. Red Bull is seemingly back on top, Webber could very well have won the race had it not been for his awful start which he's been doing a lot lately, which further leads me to believe that he could be a lot closer to Vettel than he is currently. The star, of course, would be Jenson. The guy that never says die -- of all of the drivers on the field (even my own favorite) Jenson seems to have the best strategies and can most often make them work even in the worse case scenarios.
Brilliant drive. Horrible second half to the race. And what the heck happened to Ferrari's pace?
Anyhoo, the race was fantastic, right up until the second half; started off fantastically, full of excitment, crashes, the Safety Car, and even droplets of rain. Once the second half of the race came around it, somehow, became progressively boring. Red Bull is seemingly back on top, Webber could very well have won the race had it not been for his awful start which he's been doing a lot lately, which further leads me to believe that he could be a lot closer to Vettel than he is currently. The star, of course, would be Jenson. The guy that never says die -- of all of the drivers on the field (even my own favorite) Jenson seems to have the best strategies and can most often make them work even in the worse case scenarios.
Brilliant drive. Horrible second half to the race. And what the heck happened to Ferrari's pace?
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And what the heck happened to Ferrari's pace?
I for one wouldn't doubt that. Alonso in a competitive car, will be fun.
Danny
�� Quote: Originally Posted by xxxdannyxxx Quote:
And what the heck happened to Ferrari's pace?
I for one wouldn't doubt that. Alonso in a competitive car, will be fun.
Danny
Monza along with Spa are 2 of my favourites too.I wouldn't rule out Mercedes either.That car is super fast and slippery.
Danny
Danny
Anyone else here seen Senna? If you haven't, please do.
Quite the emotional film it is. I've never teared as much as I did watching a movie before, granted it is real life, but still.
Quite the emotional film it is. I've never teared as much as I did watching a movie before, granted it is real life, but still.
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