Thứ Năm, 18 tháng 8, 2016

Recompilation of Vista or 7 Disk part 1


I2aMpAnT

Is it possible to recompile your installation DVD to include your programs so that you don't have to do a massive reinstallation everytime you reinstall your OS? Well I know it's possible due to people making such Warez as "Vista Lite" and such, but is it more effort than it's worth?

tdk08

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by I2aMpAnT View Post
Is it possible to recompile your installation DVD to include your programs so that you don't have to do a massive reinstallation everytime you reinstall your OS? Well I know it's possible due to people making such Warez as "Vista Lite" and such, but is it more effort than it's worth?
I just install from a USB drive and make a seperate folder with all the setup files for programs I know I'll want on there so you could do that if you want.

z3r010

I'm not sure if vlite supports Windows 7 yet, but why not just image your system once everything is loaded.

I2aMpAnT

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by z3r010 View Post
I'm not sure if vlite supports Windows 7 yet, but why not just image your system once everything is loaded.
I want it to be just like an OEM DVD from like Dell with lots of preloaded <edit>, only instead of that preloaded <edit> it's my programs....

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I just install from a USB drive and make a seperate folder with all the setup files for programs I know I'll want on there so you could do that if you want.

What???

tdk08

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by I2aMpAnT View Post
What???
I made a bootable Windows 7 flash drive and made another folder separate from the W7 installation on the drive with all of the setup files for apps I will want on there, get it? Then you just install them after the W7 install.

I2aMpAnT

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by tdk08 View Post
I made a bootable Windows 7 flash drive and made another folder separate from the W7 installation on the drive with all of the setup files for apps I will want on there, get it? Then you just install them after the W7 install.

I don't mean to sound rude, but honestly what's the point of that?
I believe I may be missing something...

tdk08

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by I2aMpAnT View Post
I don't mean to sound rude, but honestly what's the point of that?
I believe I may be missing something...
So that, when you reinstall, (which you probably will be once or twice since it is a beta) all the programs you want to have on the system are easily installed because all of the setup files are right there, you don't have to go download them and its easier than remembering which programs you normally have on your PC after every install. I just think it makes it easier

johngalt

The app installs are not slipstreamed, but they are *readily* available - no media swapping needed to get them all installed.

It is basically an intermediary between a vanilla W7 install and manually re-installing / installation of all apps and a slipstreamed W7 *with* apps install.

But, here is the really really *really* good part - the W7 SDK has been out for a couple of days now as well....

Download details: Microsoft Windows 7 SDK: BETA

So, I suspect nuhi is probably already hard at work on developing 7lite as we speak....

Bare Foot Kid

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by z3r010 View Post
But why not just image your system once everything is loaded.

Hello I2aMpAnT.

Have a look at this, at the link below; it's free.

http://www.sevenforums.com/software/....html#post8655

Keep us informed!







Later Ted

I2aMpAnT

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
The app installs are not slipstreamed, but they are *readily* available - no media swapping needed to get them all installed.

It is basically an intermediary between a vanilla W7 install and manually re-installing / installation of all apps and a slipstreamed W7 *with* apps install.

But, here is the really really *really* good part - the W7 SDK has been out for a couple of days now as well....

Download details: Microsoft Windows 7 SDK: BETA

So, I suspect nuhi is probably already hard at work on developing 7lite as we speak....

Oh I understand. I already have all my installation exe's and stuff in a folder ready to install from my 1TB Drive.

What I want to know is how preload stuff onto DVDs, I'm messing around with Vista's installation with vLite and I don't see how to preload programs.

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid View Post
Hello I2aMpAnT.

Have a look at this, at the link below; it's free.

http://www.sevenforums.com/software/....html#post8655

Keep us informed!





Later Ted

I don't want an image of my OS with Programs Installed. I want a DVD that installs the OS and the Software Preloaded such as one that you get from your OEM that comes with proprietary software.

johngalt

That's not what he is asking, Ted - he wants a slipstreamed system that he can take with particular apps already on the DVD - so they are *preinstalled* - as in take it to a new machine and blow the partition away and install.

I used to do this with XP, because I could actually tell XP which partitions to use for what - so I had a system partition with nothing but the system drive, and a separate partition that actually created Program Files and the entire Documents and Settings structure on that partition - meaning I had a very small system partition *and* all my settings were saved whenever I blew away the system partition and started from scratch.

In the same manner, a slipstreamed DVD also contains drivers for your system, apps that you always want installed, etc - it is your own home made installation brew not for *backup* purposes but for *future installs* purposes.



I2 - you can use the multi button at the right to quot multiple people at one time - it makes it easier to read than making separate posts for each quotation....

I2aMpAnT

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
In the same manner, a slipstreamed DVD also contains drivers for your system, apps that you always want installed, etc - it is your own home made installation brew not for *backup* purposes but for *future installs* purposes.

YES! That's exactly what I want, how do I do that?

tdk08

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
That's not what he is asking, Ted - he wants a slipstreamed system that he can take with particular apps already on the DVD - so they are *preinstalled* - as in take it to a new machine and blow the partition away and install.

I used to do this with XP, because I could actually tell XP which partitions to use for what - so I had a system partition with nothing but the system drive, and a separate partition that actually created Program Files and the entire Documents and Settings structure on that partition - meaning I had a very small system partition *and* all my settings were saved whenever I blew away the system partition and started from scratch.

In the same manner, a slipstreamed DVD also contains drivers for your system, apps that you always want installed, etc - it is your own home made installation brew not for *backup* purposes but for *future installs* purposes.



I2 - you can use the multi button at the right to quot multiple people at one time - it makes it easier to read than making separate posts for each quotation....
You know, now I'm interested in making one of these DVD's...

johngalt

As I said, nuhi is probably already working on a 7lite project - just wait, or check out the projects forum at NeoWin to see if he is or not.

Nuhi is the developer of nLite and vLite, and NeoWin has several dedicated forums to slipstreaming, so if you want advanced knowledge detailing slipstreaming apps and drivers into ISOs I'd check there.

Finally, a caveat - although I had that kewl XP via nLite, Vista does not allow you to *pre-specify* partition locations for various components like XP - so I stopped slip streaming and started just manually moving the special folder locations by hand.

now that I know I have certain apps I use *all the tie* I think I am going to check out slipstreaming again.

I2aMpAnT

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
As I said, nuhi is probably already working on a 7lite project - just wait, or check out the projects forum at NeoWin to see if he is or not.

Nuhi is the developer of nLite and vLite, and NeoWin has several dedicated forums to slipstreaming, so if you want advanced knowledge detailing slipstreaming apps and drivers into ISOs I'd check there.

Finally, a caveat - although I had that kewl XP via nLite, Vista does not allow you to *pre-specify* partition locations for various components like XP - so I stopped slip streaming and started just manually moving the special folder locations by hand.

now that I know I have certain apps I use *all the tie* I think I am going to check out slipstreaming again.

I have vLite for Vista and I can't see where to add your own programs to it...

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
I2 - you can use the multi button at the right to quot multiple people at one time - it makes it easier to read than making separate posts for each quotation....

I know, but when they come in at different times, you can't quite do that
:-P

johngalt

True that lol.

The *really* kewl thing, though, about the multi button, is that it places the quoted text in the order that you click the multi button....

As for adding apps - there was a side project over at NeoWin detailing exactly how to add apps, as nuhi just made vLite about removing stuff from the basic Vista install....

I2aMpAnT

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
True that lol.

The *really* kewl thing, though, about the multi button, is that it places the quoted text in the order that you click the multi button....

As for adding apps - there was a side project over at NeoWin detailing exactly how to add apps, as nuhi just made vLite about removing stuff from the basic Vista install....

So how do I add stuff as opposed to removing it?

johngalt

Oops - I said NeoWin - I should have said *MSFN* forums....

See MSFN Forums -> Member Contributed Projects

Happy reading

I2aMpAnT

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
Oops - I said NeoWin - I should have said *MSFN* forums....

See MSFN Forums -> Member Contributed Projects

Happy reading

Thanks very much, +1 for you if I find it :-P

johngalt

Oh, it is there - I promise you - I had started working on making a slipstreamed install with Office and WinRAR and a few other little goodies - then ran into the brick wall of not being able to pre-define the location of my special folders - and gave up.

I2aMpAnT

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
Oh, it is there - I promise you - I had started working on making a slipstreamed install with Office and WinRAR and a few other little goodies - then ran into the brick wall of not being able to pre-define the location of my special folders - and gave up.

Wait what?
What special folders?

johngalt

Documents, Downloads, etc....

I manually move them to my second hard drive after every install of Vista (and now W7) - so when I need to do a new install, all my docs are on a physically separate HD and away I go - no complicated backup scheme.

My goal was to also figure out a way to have the Users tree there also - then all my *settings* and such would also get preserved - making life that much easier.

I2aMpAnT

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
Documents, Downloads, etc....

I manually move them to my second hard drive after every install of Vista (and now W7) - so when I need to do a new install, all my docs are on a physically separate HD and away I go - no complicated backup scheme.

My goal was to also figure out a way to have the Users tree there also - then all my *settings* and such would also get preserved - making life that much easier.

Ok can you just tell me this.

In vLite, how do I add an exe to be installed?

johngalt

See [Tutorial] Build Windows Vista SP1 x86 DVD using vLite - MSFN Forums for adding stuff as a slip stream (in this case SP1)...

Then you can look at MSFN Forums -> Windows Post-Install Wizard (WPI) or MSFN Forums -> Windows Post-Install Wizard (WPI)

I2aMpAnT

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
The first tut didn't help much...
Can I rename my exe's to MSU and add them as hotfixes?

johngalt

No - MSUs are spcailly built MSIs...

not all EXEs are MSI based....but those that are you can use unpacker to extract the MSI from....

I2aMpAnT

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
No - MSUs are spcailly built MSIs...

not all EXEs are MSI based....but those that are you can use unpacker to extract the MSI from....

I'm so lost...
I have WPI and vLite but don't know how to put programs on
For example, say I want my DVD to come preloaded with AIM and my settings, how do I do that?

johngalt

With W7 it ain't gonna be possible yet until the SDK is played with and folks figure out how to do it.

For Vista, it's there, just convoluted - and 5 minutes of scanning ain't gonna get you the answer. It is there, but you have to spend a lot of time reading.

each app is gonna be different hence the time spent reading part....

z3r010

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Maybe worth playing with

I2aMpAnT

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by z3r010 View Post


Maybe worth playing with

I think I'd rather make a complete install and make an image :-P

Too much work for my own custom auto-installation DVD

Bare Foot Kid

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid
Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by z3r010
But why not just image your system once everything is loaded.
Hello I2aMpAnT.

Have a look at this, at the link below; it's free.

FREE Great Programs for Window 7

Keep us informed!

Later Ted

SIW2

HI,

Yup , I've used vLite quite a bit. Does the slipstreaming of service packs and drivers and hotfixes ( if you're lucky ). Also removes components, but haven't been able to get it to install apps., the WPI looked like too much work.

I do what John does - have folders on a separate partition , including one with app. setup files and install the apps. direct from there after reinstalling the o/s.

Vlite does work (largely ) with 7 even as is, so won't be long before Dino gets 7lite going.

I vlited 6801 - removed a lot without any probs. - components that were common To Vista come out fine. Didn't mess with the UAC settings as it's different in 7.

On Vista , I use this to control UAC - no problems for me using it at all . You might like to check it out

User Access Control - Vista User Account Control - UAC | Norton Labs

SIW2

I2aMpAnT

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
I do what John does - have folders on a separate partition , including one with app. setup files and install the apps. direct from there after reinstalling the o/s.
I've been doing that forever, I figured that everybody else did too

johngalt

Lol - y'all don't even want ot know how I do it....

I2aMpAnT

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
Lol - y'all don't even want ot know how I do it....

Go on...

johngalt

Since I have dual HDs, all my installs, drivers, and miscellaneous stuff resides on the other drive, hell, in W7 I even make new libraries for the most used folders (ISOs, Drivers, and Storage). One HD gets dedicated to nothing but OSs and one gets dedicated to storage.

On installs in the field, I keep my 4 GB UFD handy with main apps - antimalware, testing an benchmarking tools and of course, utilities like Magic JellyBean keyfinder. Makes life easier when I can reuse the same keys when blowing a clients machine away and starting from scratch....

I2aMpAnT

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
Since I have dual HDs, all my installs, drivers, and miscellaneous stuff resides on the other drive, hell, in W7 I even make new libraries for the most used folders (ISOs, Drivers, and Storage). One HD gets dedicated to nothing but OSs and one gets dedicated to storage.

On installs in the field, I keep my 4 GB UFD handy with main apps - antimalware, testing an benchmarking tools and of course, utilities like Magic JellyBean keyfinder. Makes life easier when I can reuse the same keys when blowing a clients machine away and starting from scratch....

pfft, that's nothing

Take a gander at my Drive Directories are on my 1TB Drive that I use for storate of my Media and other files

johngalt

I think you are laboring under a misconception - those are *not* by any means the only three folders I use....

It'd be too much for me to go into the entire tree, but here is the gist of it....

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I2aMpAnT

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
I think you are laboring under a misconception - those are *not* by any means the only three folders I use....

It'd be too much for me to go into the entire tree, but here is the gist of it....

Wow, almost exactly the same but mine are like 100x more organized, LMAO.

Mark

Mine is good for my needs.

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I2aMpAnT

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Mr GRiM View Post
Mine is good for my needs.

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Nice, I'm still proud of my better organization skills.
Funny part is, I'm only neat and tidy on my computer, no where else!

johngalt

My stuff is as neat and tidy as I need it to be - as much software as I continually install and uninstall, some of my stuff needs to be unorganized - plus, I tend to organize by name as well, so folders are rendered obsolete

I2aMpAnT

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
My stuff is as neat and tidy as I need it to be - as much software as I continually install and uninstall, some of my stuff needs to be unorganized - plus, I tend to organize by name as well, so folders are rendered obsolete
Yeah, ok, SURE!
That's what they all say

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