New CCC 10.12 drivers part 1

Solarstarshines

Hi all I wanted to share some results of the new ccc driver
I installed this a moment ago and it dramaticly dropped my GPU temps by almost 20 degrees

I have to say im liking this if it makes my card run a little more cooler and effective and now i can go back to 1920/1080 on the flat again vs only getting 1680/1050 all the time with no room for adjustments

once again dual screening with correct resolution

Fluffy

What's new in 10.12 ?

Solarstarshines

actually just a new look and interface thats about it and it supports the 6800 series cards now

I was getting less then what i paid for because the 10.11 didnt fully support the 6870's yet

cybercore

It adds nice and fast AMD video converter.

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Overview:

AMD Catalyst

PC Perspective - AMD Catalyst Control Center Update: Catalyst 10.12 Preview

http://www.sevenforums.com/graphic-c...s-7-a-123.html

EzioAuditore

My first two attempts to install 10.12 failed. Came that it was Zonealarm causing trouble. Temporarily shut it down and finally got it installed. Just in case if anyone's (probably ZA product user) facing any issue with it.

Solarstarshines

�� Quote: Originally Posted by EzioAuditore

My first two attempts to install 10.12 failed. Came that it was Zonealarm causing trouble. Temporarily shut it down and finally got it installed. Just in case if anyone's (probably ZA product user) facing any issue with it.

The first time it failed on me too even gave me a BSOD but i ended up trying again then it went through almost had me worried though

EzioAuditore

�� Quote: Originally Posted by Solarstarshines

�� Quote: Originally Posted by EzioAuditore

My first two attempts to install 10.12 failed. Came that it was Zonealarm causing trouble. Temporarily shut it down and finally got it installed. Just in case if anyone's (probably ZA product user) facing any issue with it.

The first time it failed on me too even gave me a BSOD but i ended up trying again then it went through almost had me worried though

Well, i didn't get any BSoD. I was kinda surprised that even after clicking 'allow' on the pop-ups thrown by ZA during driver installation, it interrupted the driver install process.

EzioAuditore

�� Quote: Originally Posted by Solarstarshines

Hi all I wanted to share some results of the new ccc driver
I installed this a moment ago and it dramaticly dropped my GPU temps by almost 20 degrees

I have to say im liking this if it makes my card run a little more cooler and effective and now i can go back to 1920/1080 on the flat again vs only getting 1680/1050 all the time with no room for adjustments

once again dual screening with correct resolution

Btw, is that desktop yours?? I don't think so.

OneSerious

I too am on 10.12 with my 6870.

Does anybody know what sort of numbers are safe to go up to on Overdrive? Attached are my current values as standard.

Solarstarshines

�� Quote: Originally Posted by EzioAuditore

�� Quote: Originally Posted by Solarstarshines

Hi all I wanted to share some results of the new ccc driver
I installed this a moment ago and it dramaticly dropped my GPU temps by almost 20 degrees

I have to say im liking this if it makes my card run a little more cooler and effective and now i can go back to 1920/1080 on the flat again vs only getting 1680/1050 all the time with no room for adjustments

once again dual screening with correct resolution

Btw, is that desktop yours?? I don't think so.

It's mine built by me blood sweat and tears alot of money
Question why would i talk or be in this forum if i didn't run and own a system to be here in the first place not to down you at all but that was kinda a stupid thing to ask

Solarstarshines

�� Quote: Originally Posted by EzioAuditore

�� Quote: Originally Posted by Solarstarshines

Hi all I wanted to share some results of the new ccc driver
I installed this a moment ago and it dramaticly dropped my GPU temps by almost 20 degrees

I have to say im liking this if it makes my card run a little more cooler and effective and now i can go back to 1920/1080 on the flat again vs only getting 1680/1050 all the time with no room for adjustments

once again dual screening with correct resolution

Btw, is that desktop yours?? I don't think so.

�� Quote: Originally Posted by kylehimself

I too am on 10.12 with my 6870.

Does anybody know what sort of numbers are safe to go up to on Overdrive? Attached are my current values as standard.

i don't know if you seen mine but i have it oc'ed much higher then you you'res runs cooler by a few degree's though here is a shot of how mine runs

Nemix

Nice!

Just upgraded from a HD 5770 to a GTX 460, I'm still going to try the 10.12's with my onboard HD 4250.

Solarstarshines

�� Quote: Originally Posted by Nemix77

Nice!

Just upgraded from a HD 5770 to a GTX 460, I'm still going to try the 10.12's with my onboard HD 4250.

the onboard is something you should leave alone if you have a installed a gtx460 installing the ati drivers for the intergrated graphics might conflict you I might be wrong depending if your particular chipset ask for the update if not i would leave it alone you will for sure BSOD your unit

EzioAuditore

�� Quote: Originally Posted by Solarstarshines

�� Quote: Originally Posted by EzioAuditore

�� Quote: Originally Posted by Solarstarshines

Hi all I wanted to share some results of the new ccc driver I installed this a moment ago and it dramaticly dropped my GPU temps by almost 20 degrees I have to say im liking this if it makes my card run a little more cooler and effective and now i can go back to 1920/1080 on the flat again vs only getting 1680/1050 all the time with no room for adjustments once again dual screening with correct resolution

Btw, is that desktop yours?? I don't think so.

It's mine built by me blood sweat and tears alot of money Question why would i talk or be in this forum if i didn't run and own a system to be here in the first place not to down you at all but that was kinda a stupid thing to ask

I didn't mean that the desktop is not yours.. I just ask'd because i was kinda shocked to see Adobe Reader 9 on your desktop when v10 is already out even on knowing how much vulnerable it is and liked by cyber-crooks..

Solarstarshines

�� Quote: Originally Posted by EzioAuditore

�� Quote: Originally Posted by Solarstarshines

�� Quote: Originally Posted by EzioAuditore

Btw, is that desktop yours?? I don't think so.

It's mine built by me blood sweat and tears alot of money Question why would i talk or be in this forum if i didn't run and own a system to be here in the first place not to down you at all but that was kinda a stupid thing to ask

I didn't mean that the desktop is not yours.. I just ask'd because i was kinda shocked to see Adobe Reader 9 on your desktop when v10 is already out even on knowing how much vulnerable it is and liked by cyber-crooks..

I actually updated to 10 already and cyber crooks im not worried about all my real info is in my wallet and my brain cyber thieves can do nothing to me i dont do banking or buying online I do order a occassional pizza but when delivered i give the man cash lol thanks for the concern though why it shows the old icon after it has been updated is a mystery to me but thank you again for the concern and i appologoze for sounding brash

Solarstarshines

well ends up i only updated active x 10 for the flash player i have now installed the adobe 10 Looks like your going to be repped for the the good eyes lol EzioAuditore

I guess sometimes other eyes is what we need to see our pigheadedness

EzioAuditore

That icon mystery your talking about may happen if you installed v10 on top of previous version..
And i have had the same mentality that i don't do online banking, transactions or any such thing, so i don't need to worry about cyber criminals, but tighten my security a bit as i don't wanna my pc to be a part of botnet, which in turn creates problem for other users.
Ps: Don't take it upon yourself. I'm just talking about the widespread mentality.
Edit: Oh so you fixed that icon thing. Very well.

cybercore

Do not forget about Driver Sweeper before installing a new Catalyst version. Mind that this preview release is not WHQL, and in the process of installation you have to click "Install this driver anyway". For best installation results temporarily disable your AV and Firewall.

EzioAuditore

Indeed. I had to disable my firewall to install it.

smarteyeball

If you haven't already - wait for the hotfixes.

Stock 10.12's are pretty bad drivers overall for many different users.


For 5xxx users - Stick with 10.10e as the 'officals' break MLAA for that series of cards. Plus they are still newer '3D' drivers than these things.


This is not a magic repeat of the 9.12 awesomeness from a year ago. This is an antithesis release by comparison.

In other words - they suck.

Nemix

@ Solarstarshines

No worries it takes me 5 minutes to uninstall the NVIDIA drivers, go into my BIOS and set the onboard as boot and try out the drivers and do the same process reverse to go back to the discrete card (been there done that with NVIDIA onboard and ATI discrete). Of course I can always go to my bro's HD 4770 and try it there but I'd have to update all his drivers for him cause he's never up to date. I was actually contemplating between a 6850 vs GTX 460 vs 6870 during the upgrade process, I really wanted to stay with AMD for the sake of unity (AMD chipset and videocard) but didn't care if I got a NVIDIA 400 series or AMD 6000 series card cause I really only wanted DivX, Xvid and MPEG-4 hardware acceleration and Folding @ Home support found on both brands now. But AMD vs NVIDIA prices here in Canada are about the same and the NVIDIA card I'm getting comes with 4 free games, PhysX as a bonus (PhysX is as useless as Eye of Infinity to me, I don't care for it), runs quieter compared to AMD counter part (higher end model with better heatsink) and has overclocking ability beating out the HD 6870 (and I'm talking about a maximum overclocked HD 6870). Still, by the way it looks AMD has gone in the right direction with the 6000 series, the new support for folding @ Home, UVD 3.0 and the built in video converter in the newly revised Catalyst Control Center is a huge change since the ATI brand was officially dropped, that's the reason why I really wanted to stay with AMD; I have a feeling more bigger better things are to come for Radeon users, 10.12's is just the beginning.

Anyhow, enjoy your new Catalyst Control Center Radeon users!

Ponmayilal

�� Quote: Originally Posted by cybercore

Do not forget about Driver Sweeper before installing a new Catalyst version. Mind that this preview release is not WHQL, and in the process of installation you have to click "Install this driver anyway". For best installation results temporarily disable your AV and Firewall.

�� Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball

If you haven't already - wait for the hotfixes.

Stock 10.12's are pretty bad drivers overall for many different users.


For 5xxx users - Stick with 10.10e as the 'officals' break MLAA for that series of cards. Plus they are still newer '3D' drivers than these things.


This is not a magic repeat of the 9.12 awesomeness from a year ago. This is an antithesis release by comparison.

In other words - they suck.

I have been routinely updating the Catalyst drivers - though not a gamer,overclocker and a video-enthusiast.

But after reading the above two posts, I was in a dilemma whether at all I should upgrade from 10.11 and if I so decide whether to uninstall the old driver, run Driver Sweep 2.7.5 in safe mode and clean it spic and span before installing the 10.12 preview.

Looking into what all it installs, I found that the USB Filter Driver,CCC,AHCI compatible Sata RAID driver, etc., will all remain the same and a complete uninstall will remove these in the first instance. I was now a little apprehensive, in particular whether the removal of the Raid drivers will create any problems for my RAID setup. The fear of the unknown!

Finally, I decided to install it over the existing version. The installation went super smooth. No problems whatsoever.( I had jettisoned Zone Alarm long back, never to look into it anytime again, since it has always been a problem after a certain update - fail to remember exactly what version.)

So, IMO, one need not be such a paranoid as to do a complete cleanup and a fresh install on a clean slate. Those measures can be resorted to only if one encounters a problem and not otherwise.

OneSerious

�� Quote: Originally Posted by Ponmayilal

I have been routinely updating the Catalyst drivers - though not a gamer,overclocker and a video-enthusiast.

But after reading the above two posts, I was in a dilemma whether at all I should upgrade from 10.11 and if I so decide whether to uninstall the old driver, run Driver Sweep 2.7.5 in safe mode and clean it spic and span before installing the 10.12 preview.

Looking into what all it installs, I found that the USB Filter Driver,CCC,AHCI compatible Sata RAID driver, etc., will all remain the same and a complete uninstall will remove these in the first instance. I was now a little apprehensive, in particular whether the removal of the Raid drivers will create any problems for my RAID setup. The fear of the unknown!

Finally, I decided to install it over the existing version. The installation went super smooth. No problems whatsoever.( I had jettisoned Zone Alarm long back, never to look into it anytime again, since it has always been a problem after a certain update - fail to remember exactly what version.)

So, IMO, one need not be such a paranoid as to do a complete cleanup and a fresh install on a clean slate. Those measures can be resorted to only if one encounters a problem and not otherwise.

I always just install over the previous drivers. Never had a problem. I've also never had a problem with ATI/AMD drivers. I read a lot of people saying they're bad and buggy. I can honestly say I've never had that issue.

smarteyeball

�� Quote: Originally Posted by Ponmayilal

So, IMO, one need not be such a paranoid as to do a complete cleanup and a fresh install on a clean slate. Those measures can be resorted to only if one encounters a problem and not otherwise.

As a general rule - yes that is true.

Over the top installation for the most part usually works as promised. It is certainly not necessary to do it for every new driver installation. Especially when installing the official 'WHQL' driver versions.

Driver Cleaning only needs to be done if:

A) You have an existing broken installation

B) You are reverting to an older set

�� Quote: Originally Posted by kylehimself

I've also never had a problem with ATI/AMD drivers. I read a lot of people saying they're bad and buggy. I can honestly say I've never had that issue.

Not everybody does mate, and I'm not being sarcastic or anything of that ilk when I say this - but you are lucky - and are a vocal minority

Bugs only become apparent when the need arises when you discover that 'uh oh - this isn't right'.


Personally, due to my usage (crossfire / Eyefinity across a wide variety of titles - I am exponentially exposed to more bugs than other users may not be.

I even have two separate Windows installations with differing driversets because driverset A works fine with some titles, but WILL not work well with others and vice versa.

I also try a lot of hotfix drivers which precludes me from the typical 'install over the top' ease. I often have to use driver sweeper because of this.


Speaking of hotfixes:

AMD Catalyst

Quote:

AMD Catalyst driver 10.12a Hotfix Feature:

AMD Catalyst driver support for systems running Windows� 7 with an AMD Radeon� HD 69xx series graphics card installed

Includes support for 5x1 AMD Eyefinity display configurations

Chiumiento

�� Quote: Originally Posted by Solarstarshines

�� Quote: Originally Posted by Nemix77

Nice!

Just upgraded from a HD 5770 to a GTX 460, I'm still going to try the 10.12's with my onboard HD 4250.

the onboard is something you should leave alone if you have a installed a gtx460 installing the ati drivers for the intergrated graphics might conflict you I might be wrong depending if your particular chipset ask for the update if not i would leave it alone you will for sure BSOD your unit

I do not know if this really has anything to do with your card at all. But I have a HD 4200 integrated. I installed 10.12 It works just fine for mine. ll I did was and and put in my stuff where it tells you to put your info it finds the newest driver. And the 10.12 popped up. SO i think it will work just fine with the 420 series. Unless it your is some how different. But from what I have been told all the 4200 series are pretty much the same other than integrated and none integrated.

joseph10444

how come my ccc gui is still the same one as the old one?

smarteyeball

�� Quote: Originally Posted by joseph10444

how come my ccc gui is still the same one as the old one?

There is a check box in the installation screen I believe.

joseph10444

�� Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball

�� Quote: Originally Posted by joseph10444

how come my ccc gui is still the same one as the old one?

There is a check box in the installation screen I believe.

hmm i dont see it..
all i see is Catalyst Control Center (when i choose custom) and no other options.

and that option is the one that gives the old GUI

Chiumiento

�� Quote: Originally Posted by joseph10444

�� Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball

�� Quote: Originally Posted by joseph10444

how come my ccc gui is still the same one as the old one?

There is a check box in the installation screen I believe.

hmm i dont see it..
all i see is Catalyst Control Center (when i choose custom) and no other options.

and that option is the one that gives the old GUI

Are you sure you downloaded the right installation? Just to be sure double check. Make sure you choose all the right hardware. If you have integrated and all that. Just to be sure I would double check. If you are still seeing the old one. It must be the old one then. Did you go straight to the AMd site and get the installation? Make sure you did. just delete and try again if possible.

here is what it looked like at my download screen. I have a ATI Radeon HD 4200 integrated on windows 7 64 bit.

Catalyst software suite

joseph10444

�� Quote: Originally Posted by Chiumiento

�� Quote: Originally Posted by joseph10444

�� Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball

There is a check box in the installation screen I believe.

hmm i dont see it..
all i see is Catalyst Control Center (when i choose custom) and no other options.

and that option is the one that gives the old GUI

Are you sure you downloaded the right installation? Just to be sure double check. Make sure you choose all the right hardware. If you have integrated and all that. Just to be sure I would double check. If you are still seeing the old one. It must be the old one then. Did you go straight to the AMd site and get the installation? Make sure you did. just delete and try again if possible.

here is what it looked like at my download screen. I have a ATI Radeon HD 4200 integrated on windows 7 64 bit.

Catalyst software suite

yeah i got 10.12 all right.
i think it doesnt work because i got the Mobility version of 10.12 (i have ati mobility radeon hd 4200)

thanks for your help though.

new gui looks cool

Chiumiento

�� Quote: Originally Posted by joseph10444

�� Quote: Originally Posted by Chiumiento

�� Quote: Originally Posted by joseph10444

hmm i dont see it..
all i see is Catalyst Control Center (when i choose custom) and no other options.

and that option is the one that gives the old GUI

Are you sure you downloaded the right installation? Just to be sure double check. Make sure you choose all the right hardware. If you have integrated and all that. Just to be sure I would double check. If you are still seeing the old one. It must be the old one then. Did you go straight to the AMd site and get the installation? Make sure you did. just delete and try again if possible.

here is what it looked like at my download screen. I have a ATI Radeon HD 4200 integrated on windows 7 64 bit.

Catalyst software suite

yeah i got 10.12 all right.
i think it doesnt work because i got the Mobility version of 10.12 (i have ati mobility radeon hd 4200)

thanks for your help though.

new gui looks cool

I looked it up as if I had your computer. This is where it took me. Have you been here and tried this yet?
Catalyst 10.12 for ATI Mobility 4XXX series

Chiumiento

That is the only one there is that goes with the Mobility series. So that has to be the one for your computer. If it is not. Then I recommend trying a full uninstall before installing it again. there might be something left over getting in the way.

smarteyeball

Tbh, I don't know if it's a mobility issue- or if it's even included in the latest official Cat download. (I personally haven't even d/l them let alone tried installing, so I can't say one way or the other).

But if you look at the attached screenie:




it shows a checkbox selection for 'Catalyst Control Center 2'. If this is present and ticked, this will install the 'new look GUI'. Otherwise the it will default to the 'old' interface upon installation.

Check out Rage3D forums - a quicker answer may found that way.

joseph10444

hm i dont have that option ... i think mobility users cant use the new gui, yet.

and yes i have downloaded the right one, 100% sure

Chiumiento

Yes I think you are right. I have just done the same thing for my cousin. she had a 4250 Radeon Mobility. I did her an update also. And she did not get the new CCC either. So I think you are right. Mobility users just do not have it yet. I do know it is brand new and I think it is still a kind of beta version. I am not sure if it has really been officially released yet. Though it does come up when you search ATI for new graphics driver updates

Wishmaster

I updated to 10.12 today, and had issues with it when it came to movie playback.

All my HD movies just crashed Nero Showtime saying the file was corrupt. I thought it may have something to do with Hardware acceleration.

So, tried them in WMP, (which is using FFDsow codec) and the same thing happened.

I used Acronis and restored the image before updating the Drivers and all works flawlessly again. (10.9 where I was)

Anyone else notice a video playback problem with 10.12? Might just be me.

Solarstarshines

I noticed flash player flickering now and again also i had to reinstall it cause a system crash twice cause the gpu stop responding

Now i am working near pefect once again on back to DarkSiders lol

ojon838

I can't or won't judge at the moment. It seems the 10.12 version of the ATI drivers are broke as far as the CCC and it's overDrive section. Before this version of CCC I was able to overclock my video card very satisfactorily. Now all efforts fail. Don't quite understand the reason...

Wishmaster

Hmm.. I didnt even try OCing.
Once I realized HW accelerated HD playback was broken, that was it for me.

Games seemed to play fine though.


There was certainly something ot right.
Glad to know it wasn't just me that a a few issues with it.

For now Im staying with 10.9. That one seems to be just perfect overall for my setup.

Chiumiento

I have had no issues at all. I had one failure when I first installed it. Have not had another one since.

Solarstarshines

Well I had to uninstall the 10.12 Man this driver was crashing my unit like no other

It even lowered my index score from 7.8 to 6.7 i went back to 10.10 i was hoping i had it licked the issue with 10.12 before but it just waited for me to let my guard down pretty much so it can screw me