I m eagerly waiting for this release and I m going to setup a dual boot with Win7.
How about you guys? Are you planning to try the latest Ubuntu 10.10?
How about you guys? Are you planning to try the latest Ubuntu 10.10?
I will almost certainly download it and install it on my Linux desktop. I will also set it up in a VM first to make sure that it's to my liking.
I am already testing 10.10 RC in Vmware. I might try the wubi install just to see if sound works yet with GT 220 (still a newb when it comes to linux) also the cube effect ( 3D acceleration ) will work
I'll waiting for it or Puppy to go on a flash drive here. The beta simply would not install on anything when going to look at that previously.
Definitely planning on trying it. I have been an open source fan since 2000 
I will probably pop in my spare 100GB drive and dual boot.
I will probably pop in my spare 100GB drive and dual boot.
The last one being the 10.04 wouldn't even install. This one was obviously worked on fast since the 10.04 was still in beta during the late spring!
I'll most likely see this release on VBox since Puppy will be going on a new flash drive. That will take up less space when seeing a second root partition there with the first being NTFS.
Here's one of the latest reports seen for the 10.10 release due out in a day. http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/desktop-...?tag=mncol;txt
I'll most likely see this release on VBox since Puppy will be going on a new flash drive. That will take up less space when seeing a second root partition there with the first being NTFS.
Here's one of the latest reports seen for the 10.10 release due out in a day. http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/desktop-...?tag=mncol;txt
OK so I installed it using Wubi and it works great. The boot and shutdown time is amazingly fast.
I have 10.04 running in several VMs so will create a new VM to try out 10.10. I also have 10.04 installed on a couple of different P3 machines so, if I like 10.10, I will upgrade them to the new release.
I started DLing it but my connection sucks so it will take awhile!
I started DLing it but my connection sucks so it will take awhile!
I'm using Linux Mint Isadora in a dual boot with W7. OSs on two seperate drives.
I believe Isadora is a LTS version. Anyone know whether I will be offered an upgrade by Mint to the 10.10 version of Ubuntu.
I chose Mint because I was told it is an easier to use version of Ubuntu and it certainly seems pretty idiot proof but I'm now thinking that I won't get this upgrade, especially as this is a LTS version.
cheers, john
I believe Isadora is a LTS version. Anyone know whether I will be offered an upgrade by Mint to the 10.10 version of Ubuntu.
I chose Mint because I was told it is an easier to use version of Ubuntu and it certainly seems pretty idiot proof but I'm now thinking that I won't get this upgrade, especially as this is a LTS version.
cheers, john
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I'm using Linux Mint Isadora in a dual boot with W7. OSs on two seperate drives.
I believe Isadora is a LTS version. Anyone know whether I will be offered an upgrade by Mint to the 10.10 version of Ubuntu.
I chose Mint because I was told it is an easier to use version of Ubuntu and it certainly seems pretty idiot proof but I'm now thinking that I won't get this upgrade, especially as this is a LTS version.
cheers, john
I believe Isadora is a LTS version. Anyone know whether I will be offered an upgrade by Mint to the 10.10 version of Ubuntu.
I chose Mint because I was told it is an easier to use version of Ubuntu and it certainly seems pretty idiot proof but I'm now thinking that I won't get this upgrade, especially as this is a LTS version.
cheers, john
Thanks Dinesh. I figured that I'd have to wait until the Mint crew get hold of Ubuntu 10.10 and add there bits etc. I'm wondering whether I will be able to upgrade this install or need to do a fresh one.
You will be definitely able to upgrade once it arrives.
so Mint is another distribution of linux?
�� Quote: Originally Posted by lorddenis so Mint is another distribution of linux?
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Dinesh �� Quote: Originally Posted by lorddenis so Mint is another distribution of linux?
Yes!! I'm going to put it on my Laptop!! Download | Ubuntu
Yeppers I will definitely be playing with it...
i'll take a look at the netbook edition if it's ready too...
downloading now...
haven't tried ubuntu since gutsy gibbon - then started using mint felicia (and that's where i found my avatar - from a mint wallpaper.)
downloading now...
haven't tried ubuntu since gutsy gibbon - then started using mint felicia (and that's where i found my avatar - from a mint wallpaper.)
�� Quote: Originally Posted by lorddenis so Mint is another distribution of linux?
Puppy 5.0 will be going on a 32gb flash drive to make up a new data recovery stick which is also a Debian based distro but a bit smaller size wise.
It should let me upgrade when I return to work!
Ironically I started the 32bit download ahead of the 64bit and the 64bit finished minutes ago while the 32bit is presently at 51%. That shows how busy their download servers are at the present time and why for some the downloads are sssslowwwwwwwwww...... busy, busy, busy is the word on that.
(nowhere near as bogged down as the MS servers were last year however!
)
Gee I couldn't forget to include an image of how the 64bit 10.10 desktop looks could i? I grabbed several screens and have the 32bit going on a VM as well.
(nowhere near as bogged down as the MS servers were last year however!
)Gee I couldn't forget to include an image of how the 64bit 10.10 desktop looks could i? I grabbed several screens and have the 32bit going on a VM as well.
Having a sucky connection is the pits! I've been trying to DL 10.10 since yesterday morning without luck. I'm now on my 4th attempt. The last attempt got to 44% before it died. My current DL is screaming along at a whopping 5KBs!
�� Quote: Originally Posted by strollin My current DL is screaming along at a whopping 5KBs!
So far, I'm incredibly pleased with the OS. It seems very smooth, very friendly.
Ubuntu is awesome. I always download new versions as soon as they are released. I have both my desktops and my laptop dual booted on Windows and Ubuntu.
For those of you who want to wait for Linux Mint to come out to make your multimedia easier to get working, I'll save you wait and give you the exact commands for Ubuntu 10.10 to playback your music files and videos.
I will provide all of these commands from the terminal window as I think it's easier to setup a box from the terminal, because you can simply cut and paste what I provide here and it will work every single time.
Adding Multimedia into Ubuntu
sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
Adding the VLC movie Player
sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-nox vlc-data
sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
Yes, that's all there is to it. It's really that easy. You should now be able to play MP3's, encrypted DVD's, watch YouTube Videos, java, flash, have microsoft true type fonts, etc.
I will provide all of these commands from the terminal window as I think it's easier to setup a box from the terminal, because you can simply cut and paste what I provide here and it will work every single time.
Adding Multimedia into Ubuntu
sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
Adding the VLC movie Player
sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-nox vlc-data
sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
Yes, that's all there is to it. It's really that easy. You should now be able to play MP3's, encrypted DVD's, watch YouTube Videos, java, flash, have microsoft true type fonts, etc.
The 32bit took the longest here when going both flavors of 10.10 and the latest Puppy 5.1.1 now seen for use on flash drives. I even saw a 4th download of GParted Live while I was at it. When booting live from cd the latest automatic start X seems to be a problem seeing the desktop for either of them flash onscreen for so many seconds and then nothing.
For seeing the 3 installed on VMs that went smooth as always while the auto config couldn't adjust to the dual monitor set up here. I would likely need to unplug one in order to have a steady display. I found that one odd but saw it with the Puppy 5.0.1 release as well on cd.
I used an older GParted release to prep the flash drive and saw the 32bit 10.10 installed while booted in Windows. Puppy Linux on the other hand doesn't see the install in Windows option for that distro however being the preferred for making up recovery sticks.
Mint 10 will simply be looked at having Mint 9 already on VBox already. When finishing up the install of both flavors of ubuntu the desktop was the same as you will find seeing that same background. If you download both you won't want to get confused by that.
For seeing the 3 installed on VMs that went smooth as always while the auto config couldn't adjust to the dual monitor set up here. I would likely need to unplug one in order to have a steady display. I found that one odd but saw it with the Puppy 5.0.1 release as well on cd.
I used an older GParted release to prep the flash drive and saw the 32bit 10.10 installed while booted in Windows. Puppy Linux on the other hand doesn't see the install in Windows option for that distro however being the preferred for making up recovery sticks.
Mint 10 will simply be looked at having Mint 9 already on VBox already. When finishing up the install of both flavors of ubuntu the desktop was the same as you will find seeing that same background. If you download both you won't want to get confused by that.
i had a little bit of trouble getting the netbook version to boot properly from my usb stick.
i followed the instructions on the ubuntu webpage to use the usb_universal_installer from pendrivelinux. the instructions were incomplete and referred to the previous version, and just resulted in a stalled bootscreen.
so i used unetbootin to make my bootable usb drive, with great success.
i played around with the netbook edition for a while, everything worked out-of-the-box and it all seemed very nice, but in the end i decided it was never going to replace my 7.
i followed the instructions on the ubuntu webpage to use the usb_universal_installer from pendrivelinux. the instructions were incomplete and referred to the previous version, and just resulted in a stalled bootscreen.
so i used unetbootin to make my bootable usb drive, with great success.
i played around with the netbook edition for a while, everything worked out-of-the-box and it all seemed very nice, but in the end i decided it was never going to replace my 7.
I don't install any distro to replace 7 here! That would be unthinkable! 
The problem for seeing it installed onto a flash drive is easily solved with the 32bit flavor and using the wubi install in Windows option. The few screens here show which options except the popup that appears for selecting the mount point being the root partition on a flash drive since these were grabbed during the VBox install using the manual partition selection.
The problems seen here were when booting live with both flavors of 10.01, the latest Puppy 5.1.1, and the latest GParted live all on live cds apparently all using a newer version of the start X for the auto display. The 32bit 10.10 was the only one to finally work when installed on a flash drive and booted live from that while other attempts like writing the isos directly to a flash drive saw the quick flash of desktop for a few seconds and then nothing.
As far as the pendrivelinux tool that usually works well once you get familiar with it. unetbootin is another good one there however.
The problem for seeing it installed onto a flash drive is easily solved with the 32bit flavor and using the wubi install in Windows option. The few screens here show which options except the popup that appears for selecting the mount point being the root partition on a flash drive since these were grabbed during the VBox install using the manual partition selection.
The problems seen here were when booting live with both flavors of 10.01, the latest Puppy 5.1.1, and the latest GParted live all on live cds apparently all using a newer version of the start X for the auto display. The 32bit 10.10 was the only one to finally work when installed on a flash drive and booted live from that while other attempts like writing the isos directly to a flash drive saw the quick flash of desktop for a few seconds and then nothing.
As far as the pendrivelinux tool that usually works well once you get familiar with it. unetbootin is another good one there however.
well my downlaod should be finished by tomorow. from what I see 10.10.10 is starting to look like OSx?
I have given up trying Ubuntu after the downloads became very slow, even wubi has become very painfully slow download. I had no problem downloading 7.10,8.04 and 8.10, I like playing with Compiz feature and might try 10.10.
I couldn't answer that one except point out I doubt you could do the same things with the other OS on a live cd or flash drive shown in the last image there. That shows a screenshot(posted earlier) being copied from the root of C on the main 7 drive into a temp folder used for various snippings taken while booted live from the 10.10 install on a flash drive.
Enjoy the view of those however since the next step will be a look at the Linux Mint Debian release to see how that goes. With the connection here that's at 73% in under 10 minutes for the 838mb oownload of the live dvd image.
It was hoped that Puppy would have been able to go on instead only being a 129mb cd image with the option to install direct onto a flash. But for some reason the last two releases of that as well as the 64bit 10.10 end up seeing only two second flashes onscreen with several minutes going by inbetween and won't remain displayed long enough to do anything.
(I went back two releases to the Puppy 4.2.1 and that was missing some boot file needed for a usb install.)
90% just now for the other.
Enjoy the view of those however since the next step will be a look at the Linux Mint Debian release to see how that goes. With the connection here that's at 73% in under 10 minutes for the 838mb oownload of the live dvd image.
It was hoped that Puppy would have been able to go on instead only being a 129mb cd image with the option to install direct onto a flash. But for some reason the last two releases of that as well as the 64bit 10.10 end up seeing only two second flashes onscreen with several minutes going by inbetween and won't remain displayed long enough to do anything.
(I went back two releases to the Puppy 4.2.1 and that was missing some boot file needed for a usb install.)
90% just now for the other.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by brummyfan I have given up trying Ubuntu after the downloads became very slow, even wubi has become very painfully slow download. I had no problem downloading 7.07,8.04 and 8.10, I like playing with Compiz feature and might try 10.10.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by strollin My current DL is screaming along at a whopping 5KBs!
I just got done finishing up the Linux Mint Debian install on VBox after a quick download and burn of the iso to see how that one looks. Presently it looks all too much like Mint 9 using the same wallpapers while a few other things were seen so far like being able to set things differently.
I think it is Linux Mint 9 Night Hawk. The Mint distro always follows a few weeks after the Ubuntu release.
As far as I know Mint 9 is called Isabella. The Linux Mint based on Ubuntu 10.10 will be called Julianna and will be released in mid November
As far as I know Mint 9 is called Isabella. The Linux Mint based on Ubuntu 10.10 will be called Julianna and will be released in mid November
Nope! Guess again! The Linux Mint Debian is something totally new based on two distros being ubuntu and looks much the same as Mint 9 and the Debian Testing. This just came out in Sept. 2010 for the first time.
It comes preloaded with some 200 apps and has the unique feature of being able to install directly onto NTFS partitions. Mint 9 came out back in March. There was no live cd version for that however since the iso was strictly an installer.
As for some more info on this latest one, Linux Mint Debian (201009) released! is what I ran into while looking for a few install of flash drive guides for ubuntu and Puppy and ran right into that.
Note this one takes a bit more drive space for a custom install while the unpacked files are about 2.77gb on the drive. While ubuntu 10.10 went right on the 4gb 2nd root partition9ext4 -first NTFS) on a 32gb flash drive this one first ran into the "out of drive space" error.
It comes preloaded with some 200 apps and has the unique feature of being able to install directly onto NTFS partitions. Mint 9 came out back in March. There was no live cd version for that however since the iso was strictly an installer.
As for some more info on this latest one, Linux Mint Debian (201009) released! is what I ran into while looking for a few install of flash drive guides for ubuntu and Puppy and ran right into that.
Note this one takes a bit more drive space for a custom install while the unpacked files are about 2.77gb on the drive. While ubuntu 10.10 went right on the 4gb 2nd root partition9ext4 -first NTFS) on a 32gb flash drive this one first ran into the "out of drive space" error.
Thanks Night Hawk, that's interesting. So it will eventually evolve into a system that needs nothing from the Ubuntu base OS?
As you say it looks very much like Linux Mint now but it can develop in a totally different way I imagine. The immediate attraction, for me, is not having to upgrade every six months.
Thanks for the info, let us know what it's like
As you say it looks very much like Linux Mint now but it can develop in a totally different way I imagine. The immediate attraction, for me, is not having to upgrade every six months.
Thanks for the info, let us know what it's like
It's much larger then ubuntu no doubt! In fact it tops the size for the latest Knoppix live dvd.
Why it looks so familar with Mint 9 released several months back is the work off as far the desktop themes and backgrounds. I grabbed some screens of Mint 9 when that was first installed on VBox at the time. There was no live version however just an install disk.
Why it looks so familar with Mint 9 released several months back is the work off as far the desktop themes and backgrounds. I grabbed some screens of Mint 9 when that was first installed on VBox at the time. There was no live version however just an install disk.
YAY for the Meerkat! I love this release more than any so far (the font and speed makes it fantastic)
One thing that really erks me about it is....this....
In Lucid (10.04) and Maverick (10.10), the default driver for NVIDIA cards is the NOVEAU driver (open source nvidia driver) and is somewhat fine for what it is - a driver that does most things a NVIDIA driver does sans power modes, 3-D acceleration (no compiz with it folks) and keep alive support.
The last one is what bugs me....say I hit CTRL+ALT+F1 to drop down to a shell at run level 3 to do some diagnostics (updates mostly). Lets say I run sudo apt-get update and leave my laptop alone (don't touch ANYTHING). The screen and any processing on framebuffer just....freezes until you swipe the touchpad or hit a key. This is a HUGE problem that they still haven't fixed in this driver (sad really).
Now before you say....why not just use the driver's from NVIDIA's website...I will tell you why that is an issue to. In Lucid and Maverick, the bootup process is ran via an app called Plymouth. Plymouth provides high quality and bootup speeds...or one would think. When you actually install the NVIDIA driver...you will notice on your next bootup that Plymouth is normally corrupted and it actually takes LONGER to boot. Now I know how to fix it personally (and will assist anyone in fixing it...you need only ask) but for the regular user new to linux and only installing the driver, they would think their distro is corrupted
Where it stands right now...Ubuntu Linux and NVIDIA have a poor marriage
One thing that really erks me about it is....this....
In Lucid (10.04) and Maverick (10.10), the default driver for NVIDIA cards is the NOVEAU driver (open source nvidia driver) and is somewhat fine for what it is - a driver that does most things a NVIDIA driver does sans power modes, 3-D acceleration (no compiz with it folks) and keep alive support.
The last one is what bugs me....say I hit CTRL+ALT+F1 to drop down to a shell at run level 3 to do some diagnostics (updates mostly). Lets say I run sudo apt-get update and leave my laptop alone (don't touch ANYTHING). The screen and any processing on framebuffer just....freezes until you swipe the touchpad or hit a key. This is a HUGE problem that they still haven't fixed in this driver (sad really).
Now before you say....why not just use the driver's from NVIDIA's website...I will tell you why that is an issue to. In Lucid and Maverick, the bootup process is ran via an app called Plymouth. Plymouth provides high quality and bootup speeds...or one would think. When you actually install the NVIDIA driver...you will notice on your next bootup that Plymouth is normally corrupted and it actually takes LONGER to boot. Now I know how to fix it personally (and will assist anyone in fixing it...you need only ask) but for the regular user new to linux and only installing the driver, they would think their distro is corrupted
Where it stands right now...Ubuntu Linux and NVIDIA have a poor marriage
Upon hearing that I'm glad to be running an ATI driven card!
Well as far as the x86 version of 10.10 that is. The 64bit 10.10, Puppy 5.1.1, and latest version of GParted live simply flicker on the secondary's lcd screen for a few seconds and then poof! gone.
For Puppy I tried the 5.0.1 and then went back to the 4.3.1 just to one of those on a flash drive while both flavors of the 10.10, Puppy releases, and anything goes right on VBox already being in Windows. The burns to disk were troublefree while only the 32bit ubuntu and new Mint release will remain displayed while booted live.
Well as far as the x86 version of 10.10 that is. The 64bit 10.10, Puppy 5.1.1, and latest version of GParted live simply flicker on the secondary's lcd screen for a few seconds and then poof! gone.
For Puppy I tried the 5.0.1 and then went back to the 4.3.1 just to one of those on a flash drive while both flavors of the 10.10, Puppy releases, and anything goes right on VBox already being in Windows. The burns to disk were troublefree while only the 32bit ubuntu and new Mint release will remain displayed while booted live.
Shot of my current dual boot ubuntu 10.10 desktop.
Trying out the 32 bit version for a while. Kind of bummed that it only recognized 2.9GB out of my 12. Just installed linux-generic-pae/linux-headers-generic-pae/linux-image-generic-pae kernel from Synaptic PM after this screenshot to enable PAE. Reboot, all 12GB in 32 bit.
Trying out the 32 bit version for a while. Kind of bummed that it only recognized 2.9GB out of my 12. Just installed linux-generic-pae/linux-headers-generic-pae/linux-image-generic-pae kernel from Synaptic PM after this screenshot to enable PAE. Reboot, all 12GB in 32 bit.
I'm still trying to get any of them to extend a single desktop over to the second display. As for the 64bit 10.10 whether booted live or installed on anything other then a VM the screen flickers a quick look and minutes pass by before each other 2 second flash is seen. 
For custom installs on flash drives for live boots the 32bit was the one since that does remain onscreen. For not seeing the full 12gb of memory however you wouldn't actually need to since you wouldn't be using up more then a few gig to start with being one of the small distros.
I trust that's the same synaptic seen at Synaptic Package Manager - People
For custom installs on flash drives for live boots the 32bit was the one since that does remain onscreen. For not seeing the full 12gb of memory however you wouldn't actually need to since you wouldn't be using up more then a few gig to start with being one of the small distros.
I trust that's the same synaptic seen at Synaptic Package Manager - People
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