I've used this option in vista and set it to use 1gb of the device and didn't see major speed improvement :l does readyboost work better on windows 7?
Speed of the device you are using also determines how effective it is.
ReadyBoost's effect is most evident when used on systems with limited resources. On systems with ample system memory, fast hard drives and large page files, ReadyBoost has little effect with most applications.
On a machine with only 512mb RAM + readyboost, it's very noticeable.
However with 1GB it's a lot less noticeable and as weh mentioned, systems with ample resources - it's basically pointless.
However with 1GB it's a lot less noticeable and as weh mentioned, systems with ample resources - it's basically pointless.
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On a machine with only 512mb RAM + readyboost, it's very noticeable.
However with 1GB it's a lot less noticeable and as weh mentioned, systems with ample resources - it's basically pointless.
However with 1GB it's a lot less noticeable and as weh mentioned, systems with ample resources - it's basically pointless.
I tried it with 2GB and then with 4GB Readyboost. There was really no noticable difference. On low spec systems you will notice that probably... im quiet sure about that.
^^^, i agree with that, tried it with my 4gB RAM system, didnt notice any difference.
Have it on my netbook (1GB Ram and small SSD). I use 4GB Readyboost on a High-End 16GB HDSC Card, and I saw a huge difference while using Office 2007 or other Apps. But I don't know if 4GB are useful ; maybe I could only use like 2GB with the same results...
I work with large files in photoshop quite often. I've got 4Gb ram(only 3.2Gb seen by 64bit Windows 7).
When I open a photoshop file of say 800mb it creates a temporary page file of up to and over 15Gb on my hard drive, and sometimes I run into error messages saying 'not enough memory - increase page file size' or something similar. I sometimes set my pagefile to use both my secondary internal hard drive and my external hard drive - would redyboost be a better for using my external drive than just letting my pagefile use it?
When I open a photoshop file of say 800mb it creates a temporary page file of up to and over 15Gb on my hard drive, and sometimes I run into error messages saying 'not enough memory - increase page file size' or something similar. I sometimes set my pagefile to use both my secondary internal hard drive and my external hard drive - would redyboost be a better for using my external drive than just letting my pagefile use it?
The number 1 best thing to throw at PhotoShop (assuming an x64 operating system and the current version of PS) is more main memory. This reduces PS's need to cache to disk as often.
PhotoShop manages its own temporary scratch files to which it writes image data that it cannot hold in memory. These are best directed to a drive other than that which contains the operating system, applications, and your primary working data storage. It does no good to direct them to a different partition on the same drive: That just makes the OS and hard drive work more to retrieve the data.
A page file stores blocks of data from active memory which have been forced out because of more pressing need for that memory space. Increasing active memory reduces this need. Placing the page file on a drive not containing the operating system and applications often improves efficiency. Page file size is best set to a fixed size based on total system memory installed. (see: setting page file info)
ReadyBoost stores snippets of data that are repeatedly requested from the hard drives on the premise that the media used for the ReadyBoost storage can respond much more quickly than the slower, mechanical hard drive. This is very different from the purpose of the page file (although both are aimed at increasing the overall efficiency of the whole system). ReadyBoost is most effective in system with minimal system memory and/or in situations where a finite number of file segments are needed repeatedly by the operating system and/or applications.
PhotoShop manages its own temporary scratch files to which it writes image data that it cannot hold in memory. These are best directed to a drive other than that which contains the operating system, applications, and your primary working data storage. It does no good to direct them to a different partition on the same drive: That just makes the OS and hard drive work more to retrieve the data.
A page file stores blocks of data from active memory which have been forced out because of more pressing need for that memory space. Increasing active memory reduces this need. Placing the page file on a drive not containing the operating system and applications often improves efficiency. Page file size is best set to a fixed size based on total system memory installed. (see: setting page file info)
ReadyBoost stores snippets of data that are repeatedly requested from the hard drives on the premise that the media used for the ReadyBoost storage can respond much more quickly than the slower, mechanical hard drive. This is very different from the purpose of the page file (although both are aimed at increasing the overall efficiency of the whole system). ReadyBoost is most effective in system with minimal system memory and/or in situations where a finite number of file segments are needed repeatedly by the operating system and/or applications.
Thanx weh, niceley explained. Unfortunately I'm limited to 4gig RAM in my laptop - and can't even access all of that - as far as I know my bios does not allow it, think I should get myself one of those 16Gig flashdrives for readyboost, can't do any harm 
Yeah I haven't noticed much difference with 2gb or 4gb installed trying to use readyboost. I wonder if a 512mb system with a 16gb USB drive would be like a 1gb system speed wise?
In launching apps, maybe, but no good for multi-tasking....
Like SuperFetch. I think ReadyBoost needs some time to settle and if you're just testing clean builds every other week or all you're doing is loading games and streaming large video files and stuff you probably won't see any difference other than a bit faster startup and app load times but on certain kinds of heavy use multimedia, programming type workstations I think it might even have it's place even if you have a boatload of ram and a fast HDD.. that is at least until OCZ drops the Colossus SSDs in a few weeks (and I cry when I see the initial prices.. )
I don't think of readyboost as extra, slow ram, but more like a little ghetto SSD drive for small files that are accessed often, and frees up the hdd to work on the big stuff instead of scrambling around for all these little files that take it relatively long to access. I'm pretty amazed at how fast GIMP x64 loads on my machine now for example. The thumb drives may not be able to compete with a hard drive for data rate but the access time is much lower (my cruzer 8gb says 0.5ms in HDTune, while my Seagate 1tb hdd is 12.6ms) I don't really claim to understand how it works at all but it seems to work for me, just my 2c.
I don't think of readyboost as extra, slow ram, but more like a little ghetto SSD drive for small files that are accessed often, and frees up the hdd to work on the big stuff instead of scrambling around for all these little files that take it relatively long to access. I'm pretty amazed at how fast GIMP x64 loads on my machine now for example. The thumb drives may not be able to compete with a hard drive for data rate but the access time is much lower (my cruzer 8gb says 0.5ms in HDTune, while my Seagate 1tb hdd is 12.6ms) I don't really claim to understand how it works at all but it seems to work for me, just my 2c.
Interestingly my Windows Vista with 4GB used my Readyboost but Windows 7 RC Ultimate told me it would not help because my resources were fine.
Strange, my 7 with 4gb installed let me use ReadyBoost on two 8gb flash drives at the same time. I ended up removing the slower one because I don't have any other flash drives and I've heard ReadyBoost wears them out pretty quick... and it just seemed like it would be overkill and probably wouldn't be worth it since the other drive had a lot lower access time and higher data rates. From what I've heard 2.5x your physical ram is about as much useful readyboost space as you can get.
Thanks ECO, after reading your explanation about using 8GB flash drives, I looked at mine and it was only a 2GB flash drive. That is probably why 7 said it wouldn't make an improvement.
ok before I went sleep earlier I connected up my new 2 gig usb card to my laptop which has 1 gig of ram. I had to enable superfetch.
before plugging it in, the commit was about 1.3 gig and over 950meg ram used. It then proceeded to thrash my hdd for ages, I am guessing moving stuff from pagefile to readyboost. My ram usage is now down to about 600meg ram. So it looks like both of pagefile and some of what was in ram has been moved over to readyboost. Overall the laptop is defenitly more responsive.
Win7 is fast but I was suffering from excessive pagefile usage. To me readyboost seems a logical choice if you out of ram using something like a laptop.
before plugging it in, the commit was about 1.3 gig and over 950meg ram used. It then proceeded to thrash my hdd for ages, I am guessing moving stuff from pagefile to readyboost. My ram usage is now down to about 600meg ram. So it looks like both of pagefile and some of what was in ram has been moved over to readyboost. Overall the laptop is defenitly more responsive.
Win7 is fast but I was suffering from excessive pagefile usage. To me readyboost seems a logical choice if you out of ram using something like a laptop.
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I've got 4Gb ram(only 3.2Gb seen by 64bit Windows 7).
Just to clarify here. Is a 1GB Windows Vista or 1GB Win 7 considered a low resource system? From what I understood about Readyboost, you are supposed to put a Flash that is double your system memory right? If I use a 2 GB flash drive with a 1GB system, should I see an improvement?
�� Quote: Originally Posted by exo Strange, my 7 with 4gb installed let me use ReadyBoost on two 8gb flash drives at the same time. I ended up removing the slower one because I don't have any other flash drives and I've heard ReadyBoost wears them out pretty quick... and it just seemed like it would be overkill and probably wouldn't be worth it since the other drive had a lot lower access time and higher data rates. From what I've heard 2.5x your physical ram is about as much useful readyboost space as you can get.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by nailgunner �� Quote: Originally Posted by exo Strange, my 7 with 4gb installed let me use ReadyBoost on two 8gb flash drives at the same time. I ended up removing the slower one because I don't have any other flash drives and I've heard ReadyBoost wears them out pretty quick... and it just seemed like it would be overkill and probably wouldn't be worth it since the other drive had a lot lower access time and higher data rates. From what I've heard 2.5x your physical ram is about as much useful readyboost space as you can get.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by nabilalk �� Quote: Originally Posted by nailgunner �� Quote: Originally Posted by exo Strange, my 7 with 4gb installed let me use ReadyBoost on two 8gb flash drives at the same time. I ended up removing the slower one because I don't have any other flash drives and I've heard ReadyBoost wears them out pretty quick... and it just seemed like it would be overkill and probably wouldn't be worth it since the other drive had a lot lower access time and higher data rates. From what I've heard 2.5x your physical ram is about as much useful readyboost space as you can get.
It's no substitute for simply increasing physical RAM.
It's a page file on a stick.
It's a page file on a stick.
Yea...I know...half the people say that...and the other half say something else and the other 3/4's say something all totally new. Seriously this is as bad as the joke about asking 5 economists a question and getting 10 opinions. I can link you to page after page of "experts" who agree with you and page after page of "experts" who don't think you have a clue. So who's an impressionable young lad suppose to listen to? I would flip a coin but it would land on the edge.
Readyboost isn't RAM, it's extending the HDD cache. However, superfetch does a LOT of the same thing by pre-caching files you are most likely to use (and it learns over time to try and get really good at it) into RAM itself - therefore, the more RAM you have, the better superfetch is going to work (it can cache a heck of a lot more files with 4-8GB of RAM on a box than it can with 1GB or less). If superfetch has already cached a file from disk and you go to use it, readyboost isn't going to do a thing for you. So, readyboost might actually be beneficial *right out of the box* when superfetch is basically only caching Windows binaries, but the longer you use a Win7 machine with superfetch enabled (again assuming 3GB or more of RAM), the less useful readyboost is going to be. It's not rocket science, it's just reading the technical specs for what these two things do, and using common sense once you understand how they do (and do not) work. So, gregrocker (and those that agree with him) are right - the more RAM in a system, the less need for readyboost (because superfetch does the same thing, basically - and it's smarter about it too).
�� Quote: Originally Posted by nailgunner Yea...I know...half the people say that...and the other half say something else and the other 3/4's say something all totally new. Seriously this is as bad as the joke about asking 5 economists a question and getting 10 opinions. I can link you to page after page of "experts" who agree with you and page after page of "experts" who don't think you have a clue. So who's an impressionable young lad suppose to listen to? I would flip a coin but it would land on the edge.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by cluberti the more RAM in a system, the less need for readyboost (because superfetch does the same thing, basically - and it's smarter about it too).
�� Quote: Originally Posted by cluberti Readyboost isn't RAM, it's extending the HDD cache. However, superfetch does a LOT of the same thing by pre-caching files you are most likely to use (and it learns over time to try and get really good at it) into RAM itself - therefore, the more RAM you have, the better superfetch is going to work (it can cache a heck of a lot more files with 4-8GB of RAM on a box than it can with 1GB or less). If superfetch has already cached a file from disk and you go to use it, readyboost isn't going to do a thing for you. So, readyboost might actually be beneficial *right out of the box* when superfetch is basically only caching Windows binaries, but the longer you use a Win7 machine with superfetch enabled (again assuming 3GB or more of RAM), the less useful readyboost is going to be. It's not rocket science, it's just reading the technical specs for what these two things do, and using common sense once you understand how they do (and do not) work. So, gregrocker (and those that agree with him) are right - the more RAM in a system, the less need for readyboost (because superfetch does the same thing, basically - and it's smarter about it too).
I have a doubt about readybost.
RAM speed....8000 MB/s aprox
HDD speed....80 MB/s aprox
Pendrive....... 2 - 20 MB/s (being 20 the fastest top of the line pendrives)
How using readyboost could be faster than a pagefile in the HDD? Could be faster in access time but in the overall (access time + read/write time) should be a lot slower than the hdd. Unless we are talking of 1000 files of 40 kb in memory, but I think that loaded in memory there are a limited number of programs of several megabytes each.
What am I missing in this analysis?
RAM speed....8000 MB/s aprox
HDD speed....80 MB/s aprox
Pendrive....... 2 - 20 MB/s (being 20 the fastest top of the line pendrives)
How using readyboost could be faster than a pagefile in the HDD? Could be faster in access time but in the overall (access time + read/write time) should be a lot slower than the hdd. Unless we are talking of 1000 files of 40 kb in memory, but I think that loaded in memory there are a limited number of programs of several megabytes each.
What am I missing in this analysis?
�� Quote: Originally Posted by pablo712 I have a doubt about readybost.
RAM speed....8000 MB/s aprox
HDD speed....80 MB/s aprox
Pendrive....... 2 - 20 MB/s (being 20 the fastest top of the line pendrives)
How using readyboost could be faster than a pagefile in the HDD? Could be faster in access time but in the overall (access time + read/write time) should be a lot slower than the hdd. Unless we are talking of 1000 files of 40 kb in memory, but I think that loaded in memory there are a limited number of programs of several megabytes each.
What am I missing in this analysis?
RAM speed....8000 MB/s aprox
HDD speed....80 MB/s aprox
Pendrive....... 2 - 20 MB/s (being 20 the fastest top of the line pendrives)
How using readyboost could be faster than a pagefile in the HDD? Could be faster in access time but in the overall (access time + read/write time) should be a lot slower than the hdd. Unless we are talking of 1000 files of 40 kb in memory, but I think that loaded in memory there are a limited number of programs of several megabytes each.
What am I missing in this analysis?
The core idea of ReadyBoost is that a flash drive has a much faster seek time (less than 1 millisecond), allowing it to satisfy requests faster than a hard disk when booting or reading certain system files. It also leverages the inherent advantage of two parallel sources from which to read data. Unfortunately, USB 2.0 flash drives are slower for sequential reads and writes, compared to modern desktop hard drives. Desktop hard drives can sustain anywhere from 2 to 10 times the transfer speed of USB 2.0 flash drives but are equal to or slower than USB 3.0 and Firewire (IEEE 1394) for sequential data. So, all USB 2.0 and newer flash drives hold an advantage in random access times: typically around 1ms, compared to 12ms and upwards for desktop hard drives. In addition, USB 3.0 and Firewire may also hold a slight advantage on sequential data too.
Correct - readyboost is meant to speed up seek times for objects cached, not necessarily speed up disk transfers. Your mechanical HDD will (in general) be faster at actually moving large sets of files, but when you're talking about finding and loading data in the HDD or readyboost cache, the pen drive is much faster to service that request overall (it's slower to read from, but it's going to find it much faster - 10 - 12ms in CPU time is actually an eternity).
And to clarify, I didn't say you suspected it was a RAM replacement - it is just something I hear from less-knowledgeable folks regularly, so it bears repeating about what readyboost is not. It was a general statement, basically.
And to clarify, I didn't say you suspected it was a RAM replacement - it is just something I hear from less-knowledgeable folks regularly, so it bears repeating about what readyboost is not. It was a general statement, basically.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by cluberti Correct - readyboost is meant to speed up seek times for objects cached, not necessarily speed up disk transfers. Your mechanical HDD will (in general) be faster at actually moving large sets of files, but when you're talking about finding and loading data in the HDD or readyboost cache, the pen drive is much faster to service that request overall (it's slower to read from, but it's going to find it much faster - 10 - 12ms in CPU time is actually an eternity).
And to clarify, I didn't say you suspected it was a RAM replacement - it is just something I hear from less-knowledgeable folks regularly, so it bears repeating about what readyboost is not. It was a general statement, basically.
And to clarify, I didn't say you suspected it was a RAM replacement - it is just something I hear from less-knowledgeable folks regularly, so it bears repeating about what readyboost is not. It was a general statement, basically.
Well you can see lots of opinions out there. When I'm not sure I got to the people who made W7, who should know better.
Understand ReadyBoost and whether it will Speed Up your System
Understand ReadyBoost and whether it will Speed Up your System
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear Well you can see lots of opinions out there. When I'm not sure I got to the people who made W7, who should know better.
Understand ReadyBoost and whether it will Speed Up your System
Understand ReadyBoost and whether it will Speed Up your System
Well I don't know what kinds of programs and resources people are using but you typically will not see a change in performance with multiple gigs of ram and ReadyBoost.
I recently purchased this new toshiba laptop with 8gigs of DDR3 1066MHz, accompanied with the intel core i7 620m processor and I have not only used ReadyBoost for my system but noticed a significant difference in the loading and processing times.
What do I do you ask? Design buildings using AutoCAD/AutoDESK/Architectural Desktop Suite pack 15.6. Fully installed with all of its tools and packs takes up a whopping 42+GB of HDD space, and each file I've compiled so far is no smaller than 2gb(the bigger projects take up 20 times that if saved properly)
I'm currently running 2-16gb(32gb compressed) instances of ReadyBoost at any given time on my windows 7 ultimate system and I definitely need it. Originally when I was looking for a new laptop to replace my Toshiba Satellite L505 series, Intel i3 w/ 4gb of ram, I was looking for a quad core, local stores didn't carry one and the infamous "geek squad" insisted that I did not need a quad core for anything, then again they've never used architectural desktop.
Anyway, to say the least the ReadyBoost definitely helps out if you're begging for more system resources and NEED it. And by need it I mean really, truly need it. If you're surfing the net, emailing, gaming, whatever it is you may be doing, you probably won't notice a considerable difference, even if you're really looking for the difference. While some may claim 5 - 10% increase in response time, that's great, more won't notice it unless they're really killing their system for resources. I'm just glad windows 7 unlocked it from their vista version, to allow more capacity because I can definitely use it.
So far, I've noticed that the best way to get the speed and have it working all the time is by using SD cards in an empty SD slot(for a laptop anyway) Thumb drives stick out and use up usb ports. Not to mention you can set an SD card up to run while windows starts up to free up load time and reduce program load times by up to 50%. Not only that, but when I used a typical thumb-drive, I actually got the BSOD while running a few system scans(BSOD went away when I removed the thumb-drive), so it's not the best form. If you have SD and the slots, I suggest using those first. Kingston 16 G SDHC is the way to go for ReadyBoost...
Sorry for such a long post
I recently purchased this new toshiba laptop with 8gigs of DDR3 1066MHz, accompanied with the intel core i7 620m processor and I have not only used ReadyBoost for my system but noticed a significant difference in the loading and processing times.
What do I do you ask? Design buildings using AutoCAD/AutoDESK/Architectural Desktop Suite pack 15.6. Fully installed with all of its tools and packs takes up a whopping 42+GB of HDD space, and each file I've compiled so far is no smaller than 2gb(the bigger projects take up 20 times that if saved properly)
I'm currently running 2-16gb(32gb compressed) instances of ReadyBoost at any given time on my windows 7 ultimate system and I definitely need it. Originally when I was looking for a new laptop to replace my Toshiba Satellite L505 series, Intel i3 w/ 4gb of ram, I was looking for a quad core, local stores didn't carry one and the infamous "geek squad" insisted that I did not need a quad core for anything, then again they've never used architectural desktop.
Anyway, to say the least the ReadyBoost definitely helps out if you're begging for more system resources and NEED it. And by need it I mean really, truly need it. If you're surfing the net, emailing, gaming, whatever it is you may be doing, you probably won't notice a considerable difference, even if you're really looking for the difference. While some may claim 5 - 10% increase in response time, that's great, more won't notice it unless they're really killing their system for resources. I'm just glad windows 7 unlocked it from their vista version, to allow more capacity because I can definitely use it.
So far, I've noticed that the best way to get the speed and have it working all the time is by using SD cards in an empty SD slot(for a laptop anyway) Thumb drives stick out and use up usb ports. Not to mention you can set an SD card up to run while windows starts up to free up load time and reduce program load times by up to 50%. Not only that, but when I used a typical thumb-drive, I actually got the BSOD while running a few system scans(BSOD went away when I removed the thumb-drive), so it's not the best form. If you have SD and the slots, I suggest using those first. Kingston 16 G SDHC is the way to go for ReadyBoost...
Sorry for such a long post
Have you considered increasing your physical RAM, perhaps doubling it?
Thanks for the testimonial. First good report on ReadyBoost I've seen, and from someone who actually relies upon it.
Thanks for the testimonial. First good report on ReadyBoost I've seen, and from someone who actually relies upon it.
If you could stick more ram in your computer I think you would be very happy.
Well, guys, you also have to take into consideration that this is a Laptop User. Unlike desktops, laptop memory will still have some 'stunting' as to how much physical ram you can up it. Depending on the model and who designed it, you may get the newer ram types like DDR3, but not necessarily the nicer memory upgrade ability as a desktop as most higher end desktops allow for 4 slots, where as laptops only allow enough room for 2 slots and even then, the chip count size will be even significantly less than a PC.
Although, looking at the Toshiba site, and looking up their models there, if he had this one:
Toshiba Qosmio� X505-Q890 Laptops
He should be able to upgrade to 22 Gigs worth of memory, although I think at that point it is the cost of the memory that would bite him.
Edit - Oh wait... That is Graphics memory and even that number is a bit off... going to here:
http://www.crucial.com/store/listpar...io%20X505-Q890
The max memory available is 4 Gigs per slot, 2 slots maximum, therefore, he is at his maximum amount of memory for his system. So original assessment is correct, laptops are limited on memory allowances. Well, this particular one.
Although, looking at the Toshiba site, and looking up their models there, if he had this one:
Toshiba Qosmio� X505-Q890 Laptops
He should be able to upgrade to 22 Gigs worth of memory, although I think at that point it is the cost of the memory that would bite him.
Edit - Oh wait... That is Graphics memory and even that number is a bit off... going to here:
http://www.crucial.com/store/listpar...io%20X505-Q890
The max memory available is 4 Gigs per slot, 2 slots maximum, therefore, he is at his maximum amount of memory for his system. So original assessment is correct, laptops are limited on memory allowances. Well, this particular one.
can someone explain me why i can't use my 1tb usb flashdrive for readyboost?
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�� Quote: Originally Posted by natostanco can someone explain me why i can't use my 1tb usb flashdrive for readyboost?
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yeah and this is what i get
�� Quote: Originally Posted by natostanco yeah and this is what i get
Yeah I'm at my max right now for ram. 8 gig of DDR3, the Tecra only supports up to 8 with its current configuration.
Now if my understanding of ReadyBoost is Correct then you should be able to use your 1TB HDD for a ReadyBoost system. The largest I ever tried was 250GB because as we all know, for Windows 7, 256GB(250 when compressed to RB) is the largest we can go.
However, if you use a 1TB or anything larger than the 256GB requirement here's what I believe will happen...
A) You'll have to completely format that 1TB HDD in the ReadyBoost section of the disk properties
B) If it goes that far, ReadyBoost will automatically shut down any access to the rest of that TB HDD
C) The rules with ReadyBoost is that you cannot utilize the remaining space on the drive you are using while it is being used as RB.
ex. If you plug a 32GB thumb drive into your computer and choose to only use 16GB of it, you'll have to format and OK it; once it is in use, you can not use that thumb drive to store data on even though you're only using half of if for RB because it simply won't allow that.
D) So with that said, if ReadyBoost even allows you to use a 1TB HDD (only using 256GB of it) then you'd be basically wasting the rest of that drive because you wouldn't be able to read or write data from it. (again if my understanding of how it works is accurate)
Hope that helps!
p.s. I'm due for another external soon, I'm already using over 4TB worth currently... but before I use(no matter what the size is) I'll format it and try ReadyBoost on and and see what results I can get from it.
Now if my understanding of ReadyBoost is Correct then you should be able to use your 1TB HDD for a ReadyBoost system. The largest I ever tried was 250GB because as we all know, for Windows 7, 256GB(250 when compressed to RB) is the largest we can go.
However, if you use a 1TB or anything larger than the 256GB requirement here's what I believe will happen...
A) You'll have to completely format that 1TB HDD in the ReadyBoost section of the disk properties
B) If it goes that far, ReadyBoost will automatically shut down any access to the rest of that TB HDD
C) The rules with ReadyBoost is that you cannot utilize the remaining space on the drive you are using while it is being used as RB.
ex. If you plug a 32GB thumb drive into your computer and choose to only use 16GB of it, you'll have to format and OK it; once it is in use, you can not use that thumb drive to store data on even though you're only using half of if for RB because it simply won't allow that.
D) So with that said, if ReadyBoost even allows you to use a 1TB HDD (only using 256GB of it) then you'd be basically wasting the rest of that drive because you wouldn't be able to read or write data from it. (again if my understanding of how it works is accurate)
Hope that helps!
p.s. I'm due for another external soon, I'm already using over 4TB worth currently... but before I use(no matter what the size is) I'll format it and try ReadyBoost on and and see what results I can get from it.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by e1d8 Yeah I'm at my max right now for ram. 8 gig of DDR3, the Tecra only supports up to 8 with its current configuration.
Now if my understanding of ReadyBoost is Correct then you should be able to use your 1TB HDD for a ReadyBoost system. The largest I ever tried was 250GB because as we all know, for Windows 7, 256GB(250 when compressed to RB) is the largest we can go.
However, if you use a 1TB or anything larger than the 256GB requirement here's what I believe will happen...
A) You'll have to completely format that 1TB HDD in the ReadyBoost section of the disk properties
B) If it goes that far, ReadyBoost will automatically shut down any access to the rest of that TB HDD
C) The rules with ReadyBoost is that you cannot utilize the remaining space on the drive you are using while it is being used as RB.
ex. If you plug a 32GB thumb drive into your computer and choose to only use 16GB of it, you'll have to format and OK it; once it is in use, you can not use that thumb drive to store data on even though you're only using half of if for RB because it simply won't allow that.
D) So with that said, if ReadyBoost even allows you to use a 1TB HDD (only using 256GB of it) then you'd be basically wasting the rest of that drive because you wouldn't be able to read or write data from it. (again if my understanding of how it works is accurate)
Hope that helps!
p.s. I'm due for another external soon, I'm already using over 4TB worth currently... but before I use(no matter what the size is) I'll format it and try ReadyBoost on and and see what results I can get from it.
Now if my understanding of ReadyBoost is Correct then you should be able to use your 1TB HDD for a ReadyBoost system. The largest I ever tried was 250GB because as we all know, for Windows 7, 256GB(250 when compressed to RB) is the largest we can go.
However, if you use a 1TB or anything larger than the 256GB requirement here's what I believe will happen...
A) You'll have to completely format that 1TB HDD in the ReadyBoost section of the disk properties
B) If it goes that far, ReadyBoost will automatically shut down any access to the rest of that TB HDD
C) The rules with ReadyBoost is that you cannot utilize the remaining space on the drive you are using while it is being used as RB.
ex. If you plug a 32GB thumb drive into your computer and choose to only use 16GB of it, you'll have to format and OK it; once it is in use, you can not use that thumb drive to store data on even though you're only using half of if for RB because it simply won't allow that.
D) So with that said, if ReadyBoost even allows you to use a 1TB HDD (only using 256GB of it) then you'd be basically wasting the rest of that drive because you wouldn't be able to read or write data from it. (again if my understanding of how it works is accurate)
Hope that helps!
p.s. I'm due for another external soon, I'm already using over 4TB worth currently... but before I use(no matter what the size is) I'll format it and try ReadyBoost on and and see what results I can get from it.
Two interesting points I came across when further researching ReadyBoost.
"Because ReadyBoost stores its cache as a file rather than directly using the flash device in a raw manner, that file system must be mounted and assigned a drive letter. Simply mounting as a subfolder of another drive won't suffice, as only the root folder of a drive is suited for ReadyBoost cache � otherwise the �ReadyBoost� tab will not appear in the logical volume properties, nor will any previously created cache file be used."
Keep tabs on ReadyBoost with Windows 7's Performance Monitor | Microsoft Windows | TechRepublic.com
Go to that site and follow step-by-step instructions. It will let you view what ReadyBoost is doing, and if you wish, to create a data collection to be looked at and better understand what ReadyBoost does and when!
"On laptop computers the performance shifts more in favor of flash memory, laptop memory being priced higher than that for desktop systems, and with many laptops using relatively slow 4200 RPM and 5400 RPM hard drives. Additionally, on a laptop, ReadyBoost caching can reduce hard drive access, allowing the hard drive to spin down for increased battery life.[10] Also, because of the nature of the power management typically enabled during mobile use of a laptop it is a more power efficient way of increasing equipment productivity."
"Because ReadyBoost stores its cache as a file rather than directly using the flash device in a raw manner, that file system must be mounted and assigned a drive letter. Simply mounting as a subfolder of another drive won't suffice, as only the root folder of a drive is suited for ReadyBoost cache � otherwise the �ReadyBoost� tab will not appear in the logical volume properties, nor will any previously created cache file be used."
Keep tabs on ReadyBoost with Windows 7's Performance Monitor | Microsoft Windows | TechRepublic.com
Go to that site and follow step-by-step instructions. It will let you view what ReadyBoost is doing, and if you wish, to create a data collection to be looked at and better understand what ReadyBoost does and when!
"On laptop computers the performance shifts more in favor of flash memory, laptop memory being priced higher than that for desktop systems, and with many laptops using relatively slow 4200 RPM and 5400 RPM hard drives. Additionally, on a laptop, ReadyBoost caching can reduce hard drive access, allowing the hard drive to spin down for increased battery life.[10] Also, because of the nature of the power management typically enabled during mobile use of a laptop it is a more power efficient way of increasing equipment productivity."
�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker Have you considered increasing your physical RAM, perhaps doubling it?
Thanks for the testimonial. First good report on ReadyBoost I've seen, and from someone who actually relies upon it.
Thanks for the testimonial. First good report on ReadyBoost I've seen, and from someone who actually relies upon it.
Perhaps a more real world scenario would help.
My laptop is maxed out at 4GB RAM and, thanks to Dell's slight of hand and 32 bit Northbridge chip, only able to access 3.25GB of that. (Precision M65 - their top of the line laptop 3 years ago!)
I develop software and a typical set of open applications on my machine would be:
* Two instances of Visual Studio
* SQL Server management Studio
* A web browser or two with at least half a dozen open pages
* Several explorer windows
* IIS serving up local copies of web services
* Streaming audio
Needless to say this fills up the ram in no time and compiling large projects can take many minutes.
For a while I've used a 1GB USB stick for ReadyBoost and thought I noticed a slight improvement. Today I picked up a cheap 4GB USB stick to replace the 1GB one. I now notice a real improvement in the compilation times and general responsiveness of the machine. I'd much rather be able to stick another 4GB of system memory in the machine but, as I said, that's not possible.
At some point I'll get a new laptop, but at around �1200 for the sort of machine I need that can wait a bit!
I've just got a USB 3.0 card for the machine and an toying with putting a swap file onto a drive connected to it.
BTW: if you're interested, USB 2 memory sticks perform about 30% faster on random reads through a USB 3.0 port!
My laptop is maxed out at 4GB RAM and, thanks to Dell's slight of hand and 32 bit Northbridge chip, only able to access 3.25GB of that. (Precision M65 - their top of the line laptop 3 years ago!)
I develop software and a typical set of open applications on my machine would be:
* Two instances of Visual Studio
* SQL Server management Studio
* A web browser or two with at least half a dozen open pages
* Several explorer windows
* IIS serving up local copies of web services
* Streaming audio
Needless to say this fills up the ram in no time and compiling large projects can take many minutes.
For a while I've used a 1GB USB stick for ReadyBoost and thought I noticed a slight improvement. Today I picked up a cheap 4GB USB stick to replace the 1GB one. I now notice a real improvement in the compilation times and general responsiveness of the machine. I'd much rather be able to stick another 4GB of system memory in the machine but, as I said, that's not possible.
At some point I'll get a new laptop, but at around �1200 for the sort of machine I need that can wait a bit!
I've just got a USB 3.0 card for the machine and an toying with putting a swap file onto a drive connected to it.
BTW: if you're interested, USB 2 memory sticks perform about 30% faster on random reads through a USB 3.0 port!
natostanco -
if your device is formatted to a block size greater than 4096 bytes, it can;t be used by readyboost (I got this error wit ha 16k block size, reformatted to 4K, then it worked). With such a large drive I expect maybe you formatted it with a larger block size?
btw after installing readyboost device I started getting BSODs - even after deactivating the readyboost drive. It is almost impossible to uninstall - it adds a readyboost filter in all disk hardware and there is no "uninstall". I ended up using system restore to correct.
Gene
if your device is formatted to a block size greater than 4096 bytes, it can;t be used by readyboost (I got this error wit ha 16k block size, reformatted to 4K, then it worked). With such a large drive I expect maybe you formatted it with a larger block size?
btw after installing readyboost device I started getting BSODs - even after deactivating the readyboost drive. It is almost impossible to uninstall - it adds a readyboost filter in all disk hardware and there is no "uninstall". I ended up using system restore to correct.
Gene
As mentioned ready boost works when it can improve speeds, my 8gb sd was helping out a little in my system till I noticed it wasn't adding anything one day. Well I had added my SSD and ready boost no longer could add a performance gain to my new system disk.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by pablo712 I have a doubt about readybost.
RAM speed....8000 MB/s aprox
HDD speed....80 MB/s aprox
Pendrive....... 2 - 20 MB/s (being 20 the fastest top of the line pendrives)
RAM speed....8000 MB/s aprox
HDD speed....80 MB/s aprox
Pendrive....... 2 - 20 MB/s (being 20 the fastest top of the line pendrives)
That's with average early stage USB 3.0 pendrives, top of the line ones made for speed are just going to get faster as the technology improves.
USB 2.0 = 480 Mbit/s (~57 MB/s)
USB 3.0 = 4800 Mbit/s (~572 MB/s)
Don't waste your money on a speedy flash stick - invest it in a RAM upgrade or SSD which will actually improve performance.
RAM is cheap, SSD becoming more so.
RAM is cheap, SSD becoming more so.
Agreed on SSD to improve performance but prices are still high and I like all my installation files on one partition in the C:\ drive so a 500GB SSD is not an option for me and many others.
On ram, I disagree. Ram can only and will only speed up your system of you actually make use of it. My system idles at 1GB out my 4GB and I never go over 2.5GB regardless of what I doing, bare in mind I do not use intensive Photo and Video editing software. So having 4/6/8/12GB of ram does nothing for me and for most users out there ATM, IMO.
This is where ReadyBoost kicks in, if you do not already own a SSD or 10, 000 RPM hard drive then ReadyBoost will help. ReadyBoost does little to improve on program loading and Windows startup times on system already equipped with 4GB or more ram. However, I noticed significant boosts when loading Photos/Videos and thumbnails of Photo/Video files even with 4GB of ram.
USB flash drives are cheap and you can always make other uses for them if you decide not to use it for ReadyBoost. But if you buy 8GB ram and never go over 4GB or buy a 128GB SSD for 4x the price of a 500GB hard drive knowing that you'll use 500GB then that's what I call wasting money.
On ram, I disagree. Ram can only and will only speed up your system of you actually make use of it. My system idles at 1GB out my 4GB and I never go over 2.5GB regardless of what I doing, bare in mind I do not use intensive Photo and Video editing software. So having 4/6/8/12GB of ram does nothing for me and for most users out there ATM, IMO.
This is where ReadyBoost kicks in, if you do not already own a SSD or 10, 000 RPM hard drive then ReadyBoost will help. ReadyBoost does little to improve on program loading and Windows startup times on system already equipped with 4GB or more ram. However, I noticed significant boosts when loading Photos/Videos and thumbnails of Photo/Video files even with 4GB of ram.
USB flash drives are cheap and you can always make other uses for them if you decide not to use it for ReadyBoost. But if you buy 8GB ram and never go over 4GB or buy a 128GB SSD for 4x the price of a 500GB hard drive knowing that you'll use 500GB then that's what I call wasting money.
i have X32 bit windows with 2gb ddr3 ram and i used a transcend 4gd usb as readyboost but i dont see any improvements.. is it necessary to use ready boost..
well i dont use my usb often so i dedicated it to readyboost..
well i dont use my usb often so i dedicated it to readyboost.. �� Quote: Originally Posted by bala2289 i have X32 bit windows with 2gb ddr3 ram and i used a transcend 4gd usb as readyboost but i dont see any improvements.. is it necessary to use ready boost.. well i dont use my usb often so i dedicated it to readyboost..
well i dont use my usb often so i dedicated it to readyboost..I wouldnt. Ready boost is marginal at best and can cause BSOD's. Invest in Ram.
I have a crappy low end system I purchased hoping to upgrade it.
Once I got it home, however, I was saddened to find it was basically un-upgradeable in many aspects. It originally came with 2gig RAM and a 250gig HDD, no extra power ports and a RAM cap of 4 gig. on a 64 bit system this sucked..
Originally the computer was lightning fast, but as soon as I started playing my favorite xp games (Command and Conquer) things went south, major random lag problems when running anything in compatibility mode.. I installed the cap of 4gig RAM. and my xp games worked ok, just ok.
The other night, I plugged in an old 16 gig flash and dedicated 4gig to ready boost.
It frees up the little tidily processes so my applications dont lag anymore. I find this helps greatly with speeding up how the system works in compatibility mode programs.
All in all. When 4gig of ram is all you're allowed, and you have 3tb of drives, ready boost is a positive thing. I'm actually going to go out and buy a fast ready boost built drive.
I'm no expert, but thats my $0.02
Once I got it home, however, I was saddened to find it was basically un-upgradeable in many aspects. It originally came with 2gig RAM and a 250gig HDD, no extra power ports and a RAM cap of 4 gig. on a 64 bit system this sucked..
Originally the computer was lightning fast, but as soon as I started playing my favorite xp games (Command and Conquer) things went south, major random lag problems when running anything in compatibility mode.. I installed the cap of 4gig RAM. and my xp games worked ok, just ok.
The other night, I plugged in an old 16 gig flash and dedicated 4gig to ready boost.
It frees up the little tidily processes so my applications dont lag anymore. I find this helps greatly with speeding up how the system works in compatibility mode programs.
All in all. When 4gig of ram is all you're allowed, and you have 3tb of drives, ready boost is a positive thing. I'm actually going to go out and buy a fast ready boost built drive.
I'm no expert, but thats my $0.02
Weaselwarrior,
You make a good point. With many systems the addition of a readyboost drive can speed things up. I used readyboost up till the recent addition of a SSD drive. In my case the use of the RB device added very little added speed but I can imagine in many systems it would prove valuable.
You make a good point. With many systems the addition of a readyboost drive can speed things up. I used readyboost up till the recent addition of a SSD drive. In my case the use of the RB device added very little added speed but I can imagine in many systems it would prove valuable.
Quick Readyboost review on my end. I have an ASUS eeePC 1008HA (1GB ram, Windows 7 Starter). I put a 2GB 133x (Class 6 SDHC) card in and dedicated it to Readyboost. I just wanted to give it a try instead of ripping the thing apart to put a 2GB memory module upgrade.
At first I didn't think it had done anything.. but I guess it takes time to load all the prefetch and data and commonly used programs. The difference on this netbook is like night and day now. Everything is zippy. Boot time is probably 25-50% faster (subjectively as I didn't measure it). It definitely had a large impact on this machine. Of course it will never fully substitute a ram upgrade, but it was quite helpful. It may also help that I'm using one of the older SD cards that were manufactured with SLC and having faster write performance.
At first I didn't think it had done anything.. but I guess it takes time to load all the prefetch and data and commonly used programs. The difference on this netbook is like night and day now. Everything is zippy. Boot time is probably 25-50% faster (subjectively as I didn't measure it). It definitely had a large impact on this machine. Of course it will never fully substitute a ram upgrade, but it was quite helpful. It may also help that I'm using one of the older SD cards that were manufactured with SLC and having faster write performance.
yeah, sd cards are perfect for readyboost - cheap, easy to install-and-forget, without bits poking out of the machine.
as you say, doesn't compare to 'proper' ram, but it's certainly a useful upgrade!
as you say, doesn't compare to 'proper' ram, but it's certainly a useful upgrade!
�� Quote: Originally Posted by mickey megabyte yeah, sd cards are perfect for readyboost - cheap, easy to install-and-forget, without bits poking out of the machine.
as you say, doesn't compare to 'proper' ram, but it's certainly a useful upgrade!
as you say, doesn't compare to 'proper' ram, but it's certainly a useful upgrade!
Am I correct in assuming that I do not want to assign my page file to the card, and I should leave all the virtual memory stuff alone?
if your system is performing well and you have enough RAM for the load, your paging file should be hit very infrequently. However, if you do move the paging file, even Microsoft recommends placing the paging file on an SSD (or similar) device, for what it's worth. Again, a properly scaled system should use the paging file so infrequently that it shouldn't be an issue, but drives designed mostly for read performance (like a CF or SSD) are good places for it.
Readyboost works great for me. I used all of a 4gb flash drive. I don't notice an improvement normally, but when I use huge applications its much faster. Especially if I run like 10 runescape bots at a time.
I'm currently using Readyboost on the laptop here (8 GB HP USB Drive), and after I reformatted it to exFAT I set it to use the whole thing (Some 7620 MB) as the RB cache - And it's quite a difference with the single core and 1 GB on here
�� Quote: Originally Posted by pestul Quick Readyboost review on my end. I have an ASUS eeePC 1008HA (1GB ram, Windows 7 Starter). I put a 2GB 133x (Class 6 SDHC) card in and dedicated it to Readyboost. I just wanted to give it a try instead of ripping the thing apart to put a 2GB memory module upgrade.
At first I didn't think it had done anything.. but I guess it takes time to load all the prefetch and data and commonly used programs. The difference on this netbook is like night and day now. Everything is zippy. Boot time is probably 25-50% faster (subjectively as I didn't measure it). It definitely had a large impact on this machine. Of course it will never fully substitute a ram upgrade, but it was quite helpful. It may also help that I'm using one of the older SD cards that were manufactured with SLC and having faster write performance.
At first I didn't think it had done anything.. but I guess it takes time to load all the prefetch and data and commonly used programs. The difference on this netbook is like night and day now. Everything is zippy. Boot time is probably 25-50% faster (subjectively as I didn't measure it). It definitely had a large impact on this machine. Of course it will never fully substitute a ram upgrade, but it was quite helpful. It may also help that I'm using one of the older SD cards that were manufactured with SLC and having faster write performance.
Will it help for all people, in all situations? No.
Will it help if I have an SSD for my main drive? No.
Will it help if I have a lot of ram (8GB+)? Not Much
Other than that, go for it... You can get a fast 16GB USB3 flash drive (that will max out USB2) for < $30USD, and it's worth considering if you're on a spinning hdd.
At work I'm on a desktop with 4GB of ram (max for the system), but typically using all that, and extending to the pagefile (boat anchor). I got a really fast USB3 flash drive (maxes out the USB2 interface) and allocated 12GB for readyboost. It's used for development, and a lot of files are regularly accessed... I can definitively say it does help a lot.
Will it help if I have an SSD for my main drive? No.
Will it help if I have a lot of ram (8GB+)? Not Much
Other than that, go for it... You can get a fast 16GB USB3 flash drive (that will max out USB2) for < $30USD, and it's worth considering if you're on a spinning hdd.
At work I'm on a desktop with 4GB of ram (max for the system), but typically using all that, and extending to the pagefile (boat anchor). I got a really fast USB3 flash drive (maxes out the USB2 interface) and allocated 12GB for readyboost. It's used for development, and a lot of files are regularly accessed... I can definitively say it does help a lot.
This only helps computer that are low on RAM
quoted from Windows Tutorial about Readyboost.
"This will show you how to setup and use ReadyBoost in Windows 7 with USB flash drives and flash memory cards to help speed up your computer.
However, you may not notice any increase in performance if your computer meets or exceeds the minimum system requirements of 1 GB RAM for 32-bit Windows 7 OR 2 GB RAM for 64-bit Windows 7 installed."
I was hoping it worked like linking multiple drives as RAID like striping or mirroring.
If there is any increase you won't notice.
Also if you have an SSD HD windows will disable it, as it can only slow you down.
Hope this helps.
I found this post by asking same question, and found answer so I thought I'd share it.
Have a good day all,
quoted from Windows Tutorial about Readyboost.
"This will show you how to setup and use ReadyBoost in Windows 7 with USB flash drives and flash memory cards to help speed up your computer.
However, you may not notice any increase in performance if your computer meets or exceeds the minimum system requirements of 1 GB RAM for 32-bit Windows 7 OR 2 GB RAM for 64-bit Windows 7 installed."
I was hoping it worked like linking multiple drives as RAID like striping or mirroring.
If there is any increase you won't notice.
Also if you have an SSD HD windows will disable it, as it can only slow you down.
Hope this helps.
I found this post by asking same question, and found answer so I thought I'd share it.
Have a good day all,
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