Thứ Ba, 26 tháng 7, 2016

7, I Hate! part 1


Sp3c5

Hey guys,

I just came from XP to 7 Ultimate 64Bit to be able to utilize my 6GB of RAM. As of now, 7 is making me made nuts as there are a few things that drive to the point where I feel like I'm using a Mac because it simply just does not make any sense!

First thing I realized, I can't view GIFs in Photo Viewer no more and instead opens up IE (kind alike a Mac). WTFFFF. I have Chrome installed FFS. I don't want to be launching IE and even less just to view a bloody GIF image. So I right click it, Open With... I use the Search Box to find Chrome and yields no results. So then I try Photo Viewer and it's just a still image. At this point, I'm ready to throw the F*****G thing out the window. Dumbest thing I have ever seen!

Next in line; when I have Windows Explorer open and I want to navigate to a new destination, I click the drop down menu and... THERE IS NOTHING! Instead I got to open that Navigation Pane which is a total eye sore! Why include a F*****G drop down box and not include any relevant directories? Instead it's a very few list of recently opened, not important folders! What happened to XP style? That was functional!

The weirdest thing by far is the whole "Libraries" thing. What's the damn point? It's so annoying and I see it to be completely useless. Was it made for morons who can't properly find the desired folders so they go and mash em' up in some "virtual" folder? If I want my X and Y folder in the same directory ill just put em' together! What's the problem? You don't want your X and Y folder to be in the same directory? Move em'! It's like a "loop" folder.. I just really don't get it... Your Windows Explorer IS your library! Is the tool you use to organize your folders! So why would I need "Libraries"??

At this very moment, I've never raged so hard about an OS. I feel like Microsoft went to Mac route and screwed up even harder. That damn Windows Explorer icon beside the Start button is like Macs "Finder". Useless Junk icon. I open it up and brings me right to Libraries.. I'm going to throw this machine out onto a busy highway.

Now where did I put my XP CD... Damnit..

/EndRage

/Begin Question

If someone can please help me out with the Drop Down menu in Windows Explorer to show relevant locations it would be greatly appreciated!

And a way to view GIFs "normally".



/Thanks guys!



reborn7778

Whenever a file opens with the wrong program, rightclick on it to Open With the program you want. You may have to browse to it's executable in the Program Files to set it as default.

I'm not sure what drop-down menu you're referring to in Explorer other than the Tools along the top, but the explorer tree at the left is so useful I miss it sorely when in XP or Vista. You can overlook the Libraries until you find a use for them (put any folder in a Library by rightclicking). Just browse into C: to find the folder you want to drop something into, wait until the tree stops expanding to show you all sub-folders to drop the file. This allows you to do everything in one window.

I know it takes some adjustment from XP but in no time you'll get the hang of it. Ask back if you have anything else.

Sp3c5

For the view GIF, you can install and it is a free. IrfanView - Official Homepage - one of the most popular viewers worldwide. enjoy!

Sp3c5

Thanks for the fast reply!

I understand the whole process to open a file with a program and make it stick, it's the same as XP. What I want to know is, what the hell are we supposed to use to open GIF images? I don't fell like having 20 million Chrome tabs open just to browse em'. You get what I'm saying?

As for the drop down menu in Windows Explorer... I don't know how I can be more clear.. It's the only one.. it's at the top. And when I click it, there is nothing useful to display, so what's the point? Why can't it display Desktop, My computers, A list of all my HDD and removable storages and so on, just like XP? Instead it's just a browser history.. and messy to! Ye I could use the Navigation Pane but my natural instinct is to go to the Address Bar. I mean after all, it IS an address bar.

/Question

Where is the UpFolder button? And no, don't tell me the back button.

/Thanks!

profdlp

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by reborn7778 View Post
For the view GIF, you can install and it is a free. IrfanView - Official Homepage - one of the most popular viewers worldwide. enjoy!
Thanks but I find and XP like Viewer.

Sp3c5

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Sp3c5 View Post
...The weirdest thing by far is the whole "Libraries" thing. What's the damn point? It's so annoying and I see it to be completely useless. Was it made for morons who can't properly find the desired folders so they go and mash em' up in some "virtual" folder?...
Just one scenario:

Suppose you had a folder for recent pictures you were still editing, another folder for pictures you were sorting and tagging, then another folder for pictures which were exactly like you wanted them: tagged, sorted, and archived by date & subject.

Might be nice to have one central (virtual) location where you could find everything all at once, right?

Multiply that by Videos, Music, Documents, Backups, Programs, etc, and you have a one-stop location for all your data - even stuff you've stashed across multiple drives, networked computers, etc.

Even a moron like myself could see where that might be useful.

Of course, nothing is making you use them...

profdlp

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by profdlp View Post
Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Sp3c5 View Post
...The weirdest thing by far is the whole "Libraries" thing. What's the damn point? It's so annoying and I see it to be completely useless. Was it made for morons who can't properly find the desired folders so they go and mash em' up in some "virtual" folder?...
Just one scenario:

Suppose you had a folder for recent pictures you were still editing, another folder for pictures you were sorting and tagging, then another folder for pictures which were exactly like you wanted them: tagged, sorted, and archived by date & subject.

Might be nice to have one central (virtual) location where you could find everything all at once, right?

Multiply that by Videos, Music, Documents, Backups, Programs, etc, and you have a one-stop location for all your data - even stuff you've stashed across multiple drives, networked computers, etc.

Even a moron like myself could see where that might be useful.

Of course, nothing is making you use them...
It's a valid point I must admit. I just hate how MS tried to make everything evolve around it. It was almost like they were trying to force me to stop using normal navigation through a drive.

Guest

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Sp3c5 View Post
...It was almost like they were trying to force me to stop using normal navigation through a drive.
I use Windows Explorer a lot, but am also a big fan of Quad Explorer for Windows - Q-Dir

Give it a shot, and don't be afraid to mess with the settings under "Extras".

Guest

Hi,

I'm Win user since DOS. There were ups and downs, but Win7 is the best till now, IMO. However, there are many thing where I agree with Sp3c5: some times I have a feeling MS thinks Win7 users are morons (aka: Win can even be managed by 8-years old kid).
The sad truth is, there are many Win user who have no clue about disk management: they just throw things into.. where shall I?... yes: there's "My Music"! And see: there's also a place for "My Video"! What a great OS! Of course, they have no idea where their files actually are -Win reinstalling comes to mind?
There (above) was mentioned how Libraries can be usefull. Whatever...
For me, after changing few things (one of them being hidding of Libraries), Win7 is pleasant to use.

Just my 2c,
Bogdan

Guest

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Sp3c5 View Post
I click the drop down menu and... THERE IS NOTHING!
For your dropdown in explorer:
1. Probably can get it back simply by ticking "Store and display recently opened programs..." in Start menu > Properties
2. Another possiblilty: Internet Options > Content tab > Autocomplete "Settings" button: tick your preferences
3. But if you disabled Internet Explorer like I do, and some of the autocomplete settings are gone, then go to
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\AutoComplete]
Set "AutoSuggest" to yes

Edit: The above is for the recent places dropdown at the right. If you want to see Desktop, Computer, etc use the little dropdown at the left, and while you're at it try the other dropdowns - the Windows 7 address bar is far more versatile than XP and you'll like it when you get used to it, I think.

Imperfect1

If you don't like the Library system, you can DELETE your Libraries!

Libraries Folder - Add or Remove from Navigation Pane � Delete Library

You can delete the Library itself and/or any folder within a Library.
Here's what Microsoft says (at Windows 7 Libraries: Frequently Asked Questions):

LIBRARY - DELETE - To delete an ENTRY in a Library: Right click on the library and go to Properties. Then highlight the folder(s) in question and click the "Remove" button - that does not delete the folder itself but the entry into the Library. To delete the LIBRARY ITSELF: When the library is empty, you can delete it.



wysiwyg

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Sp3c5 View Post
At this very moment, I've never raged so hard about an OS. I feel like Microsoft went to Mac route and screwed up even harder. That damn Windows Explorer icon beside the Start button is like Macs "Finder". Useless Junk icon. I open it up and brings me right to Libraries.. I'm going to throw this machine out onto a busy highway.

Now where did I put my XP CD... Damnit..

/EndRage

/Begin Question

If someone can please help me out with the Drop Down menu in Windows Explorer to show relevant locations it would be greatly appreciated!

And a way to view GIFs "normally".



/Thanks guys!
Oh dear another XP dinosaur, who can't be bothered to learn.

A kid of 5 would know how to set a default for .gif

Mind you if he has no intention of attempting to learn, its fairly obvious its just a rant without any real sense.

Try the book "Seven for Dummies."

PeaB4YouGo

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by wysiwyg View Post
Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Sp3c5 View Post
At this very moment, I've never raged so hard about an OS. I feel like Microsoft went to Mac route and screwed up even harder. That damn Windows Explorer icon beside the Start button is like Macs "Finder". Useless Junk icon. I open it up and brings me right to Libraries.. I'm going to throw this machine out onto a busy highway.

Now where did I put my XP CD... Damnit..

/EndRage

/Begin Question

If someone can please help me out with the Drop Down menu in Windows Explorer to show relevant locations it would be greatly appreciated!

And a way to view GIFs "normally".



/Thanks guys!
Oh dear another XP dinosaur, who can't be bothered to learn.

A kid of 5 would know how to set a default for .gif

Mind you if he has no intention of attempting to learn, its fairly obvious its just a rant without any real sense.

Try the book "Seven for Dummies."
I really believe that this is the starting point of a process that ultimately becomes fodder for another episode of "Stupid User Tricks." I've supported several of these folks who, in an effort to make XP act like 95, of Win7 act like Vista, etc, make their systems so unusable, or unstable that they've become expensive paperweights. I'm sure that this is "preaching to the choir" but, I'll say it again: When you buy something, be it a toaster, a car or even an OS, RTFM (Read The Freakin' Manual!!!!!).

Vertex

I disagree with a lot of your statements. If you got to the Default program settings, you can just set Windows Media Player 12 to open up your .gif images. Trust me, I tried it and the .gif pictures move on Windows Media Player 12 or better yet like what someone else suggested, get a third party program to do that for you. There is a ton of advantage on Windows 7 over XP and I find XP's interface kind of antique when I use it. I suggest you watch tutorials of Windows 7 on Youtube so you get an better picture of how its done. And yes, read manuals, guides and tutorials. There's a lot of them on the Internet which you can read or watch for free. Youtube for example. Discover for yourself before you immediately arrive to such conclusions and rants.

richnrockville

I bet someone (not saying who) will have a BSOD RSN.

kenC

I have Explorer set to open at my User folder - when it opens everything is there.

kado897

As you point out there is no up arrow but at the top there is an area where you can click to navigate to anywhere in the current path by clicking the sections or dropdown buttons. Much more flexible than the up arrow.

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linnemeyerhere

I'm just blown away at how few complaints for W7 there are. I'm sorry the thread starter isn't happy but we all know that W7 represents a huge step forward and for this I can't wait for 8. That being said I too enjoyed XP in it's day but after acquainting myself with W7 it's a no brainier....Go forward, move ahead, try to detect it, it's not too late.....to whip it, whip it good !

Abhishek Ghosh

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Sp3c5 View Post
I can't view GIFs in Photo Viewer no more and instead opens up IE (kind alike a Mac).
Just open properties of any gif image by right clicking on it. Under properties, click Change. In �Open with� window, open Other Programs and select Windows Photo Viewer as default program to open with. Now click Ok and again Ok.

Sp3c5

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Vertex View Post
I disagree with a lot of your statements. If you got to the Default program settings, you can just set Windows Media Player 12 to open up your .gif images. Trust me, I tried it and the .gif pictures move on Windows Media Player 12 or better yet like what someone else suggested, get a third party program to do that for you. There is a ton of advantage on Windows 7 over XP and I find XP's interface kind of antique when I use it. I suggest you watch tutorials of Windows 7 on Youtube so you get an better picture of how its done. And yes, read manuals, guides and tutorials. There's a lot of them on the Internet which you can read or watch for free. Youtube for example. Discover for yourself before you immediately arrive to such conclusions and rants.
GIF pictures play at light speed. Useless

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 View Post
As you point out there is no up arrow but at the top there is an area where you can click to navigate to anywhere in the current path by clicking the sections or dropdown buttons. Much more flexible than the up arrow.
Yes, I found that out later. Takes some getting use to but your are right, it is neat. +1

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Abhishek Ghosh View Post

Just open properties of any gif image by right clicking on it. Under properties, click Change. In �Open with� window, open Other Programs and select Windows Photo Viewer as default program to open with. Now click Ok and again Ok.
If you were to actually read my post, you would realize I did do Open With. Hell it's just like XP. What is frustrating is that there is no actual program supplied by Windows 7 to view em'. WMP goes to fast AND you can't click NEXT to go to the next one. Opening up Chrome every time to view a GIF image is annoying because you up with a million tabs, a full screened window and the GIF image displayed at the top left corner (it seems "far" away when you are on a 26" monitor instead of it being nicely centered) AND you can't browse to the next GIF with a NEXT button. Anyways, I find the Windows XP style Photo Viewer. Works good. Done deal.


Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by linnemeyerhere View Post
I'm just blown away at how few complaints for W7 there are. I'm sorry the thread starter isn't happy but we all know that W7 represents a huge step forward and for this I can't wait for 8. That being said I too enjoyed XP in it's day but after acquainting myself with W7 it's a no brainier....Go forward, move ahead, try to detect it, it's not too late.....to whip it, whip it good !
Then tell me this. You think when Toyota releases next years line of cars they are gonna inversed the Brake and Gas pedal and mount the steering wheel to the ceiling? No. Because it worked just fine in the first placed. Newer cars have better engines (Kernels), better brakes and air bag system (Security Measures), sleeker design (Windows 7 new design is hella tight). They don't make new cars to reinvent the standard on how to drive em. That is how I kind of see thing. If it was working just fine in the first place, why change it? The Photo Viewer, honestly, is what boggles me the most. The rest, I can learn to deal with no problem. Just needs time.

RealPetChicken

hmm, i agree with the GIF complaint, but other than that, nope. Libraries are a great thing. I share folders with many computers at home, and having a library with different directories is perfect.



Kari

Once a month, like clockwork:

"Get Win7 off my lawn!! "

Sp3c5

A moron's opinion:

I would rather switch completely to Linux than go back to XP if Seven for one or another reason was suddenly taken away from me. My 74 year old mother, after getting an hour or so help in the beginning from me remotely with Teamviewer tells me how fun computing now is, with Seven Home Premium and Windows Live Essentials. Her old OS was Windows 2000.

My 10 and 11 year old nieces got interested in computing because of new computers equipped with Seven, the old family computer in my sister's family only had Windows 2000 and girls shared an old IBM with Windows 98. Sometimes I help changing a setting or showing something but mostly they all, my sister and her husband and their two daughters, as well as my mother, they all find Windows 7 so easy it's really fun to use it. Venla and Aino, my nieces make movies with Live Movie Maker about their pony riding and scout camps and meetings, my mother moderates our family forums with me and has a photo blog.

Seems to me that to some people learning new things is a bit more difficult than to others. But I would not panic yet, I'm sure you are going to learn. Keep asking questions, I'm sure sometime in the near future you will notice how much better and user friendly Seven is than any earlier Microsoft OS. Remembering your rant here now might then even make you laugh.

Kari

Hopalong X

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Kari View Post
A moron's opinion:

I would rather switch completely to Linux than go back to XP if Seven for one or another reason was suddenly taken away from me. My 74 year old mother, after getting an hour or so help in the beginning from me remotely with Teamviewer tells me how fun computing now is, with Seven Home Premium and Windows Live Essentials. Her old OS was Windows 2000.

My 10 and 11 year old nieces got interested in computing because of new computers equipped with Seven, the old family computer in my sister's family only had Windows 2000 and girls shared an old IBM with Windows 98. Sometimes I help changing a setting or showing something but mostly they all, my sister and her husband and their two daughters, as well as my mother, they all find Windows 7 so easy it's really fun to use it. Venla and Aino, my nieces make movies with Live Movie Maker about their pony riding and scout camps and meetings, my mother moderates our family forums with me and has a photo blog.

Seems to me that to some people learning new things is a bit more difficult than to others. But I would not panic yet, I'm sure you are going to learn. Keep asking questions, I'm sure sometime in the near future you will notice how much better and user friendly Seven is than any earlier Microsoft OS. Remembering your rant here now might then even make you laugh.

Kari

You sound like a Windows 7 commercial.

Windows 7 was my idea!

...


How much you getting paid to say this stuff?

Just kidding.

/NewQuestion

So pinning you items to your Taskbar makes it like a QuickLaunch icon?

profdlp

Quote:
So pinning you items to your Taskbar makes it like a QuickLaunch icon?
It does on mine. Just click it and go. Not even administrator prompts from the Taskbar launch- yet - for programs I have pinned.

Mike

whs

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Sp3c5 View Post
...So pinning you items to your Taskbar makes it like a QuickLaunch icon?
Exactly.

And just so you don't think that the only people around here are those who think Win 7 is perfect and XP stunk, the QuickLaunch bar is something I really missed at first. In the XP days I could go weeks without ever having to click the Start Button.

I guess the broader point is that, once I made the adjustment, I found a lot to like about the "new and improved" way of doing things. Maybe a good rule of thumb would be to ask "If I had been using Win 7 for the past ten years and then switched to XP, would I be happy about it? Or would I find the differences troublesome at first?"

For what it's worth, in nearly every case I found the rationale for the changes between XP and Win 7 to be worthwhile and well thought out once I got used to them.

Sp3c5

Quote:
So pinning you items to your Taskbar makes it like a QuickLaunch icon?
I never really cared for Quick Launch because you cannot properly organize your stuff. And the teskbar is nice for the essentials, but if you have a lot of shortcuts (50 or more), neither the Quick Launch nor the taskbar will do. For that I suggest to use the toolbars. They are so much more flexible, very easy to maintain and you can stuff anything into them: Toolbars - How to Use in Windows 7 and Vista

But for the really quick access items, I use Rocket Dock. And if you "hide" it, it is not even in the way. It takes any shortcut (files, folders, URLs, devices, etc.)

Example:

Wordsworth

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Hopalong X View Post
Quote:
So pinning you items to your Taskbar makes it like a QuickLaunch icon?
It does on mine. Just click it and go. Not even administrator prompts from the Taskbar launch- yet - for programs I have pinned.

Mike
Cool Cool. But when I click to open a program, Chrome for example, the "Quick Launch" "disappears" and becomes a task bar tab. Now I have to Right Click->Open New Browser..

Not to get technical or anything, but it kinda defeats the purpose after... I go from 1 click to 2 clicks. It's 0.50 faster..

It's things like this that I have a hard time taking in. I find it hard that the people at MS tried to find a way to open things faster when it was already just a click away

/NewFrustration

Windows Live Installer. F**K off MS with all that damn bloat-ware you try to make me install when all I want it a damn MSN Messenger. It's small things like this that make me rage about MS. Always trying to force things onto you. It's hella annoying. Then not to make matters works, you have to "Compability hack" msnmsgr.exe to make it a tray icon. Why on earth would they leave a dormant program like MSN stay cluttered in my taskbar when I "x-out" the window. They invented the Icon Tray and look past it now

Wordsworth

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by linnemeyerhere View Post
I'm just blown away at how few complaints for W7 there are. I'm sorry the thread starter isn't happy but we all know that W7 represents a huge step forward and for this I can't wait for 8. That being said I too enjoyed XP in it's day but after acquainting myself with W7 it's a no brainier....Go forward, move ahead, try to detect it, it's not too late.....to whip it, whip it good !
LOL. All I needed was the rhythm of "Go forward..." and I knew the rest. The song began playing in my head.

Thanks for the laugh. I needed it.

Guest

Sp3c5, give it time and I expect you'll like it. I too came to Seven from XP, having skipped Vista, and there is a learning curve; but I quickly came to forget XP.

Vertex

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Sp3c5 View Post
Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Vertex View Post
I disagree with a lot of your statements. If you got to the Default program settings, you can just set Windows Media Player 12 to open up your .gif images. Trust me, I tried it and the .gif pictures move on Windows Media Player 12 or better yet like what someone else suggested, get a third party program to do that for you. There is a ton of advantage on Windows 7 over XP and I find XP's interface kind of antique when I use it. I suggest you watch tutorials of Windows 7 on Youtube so you get an better picture of how its done. And yes, read manuals, guides and tutorials. There's a lot of them on the Internet which you can read or watch for free. Youtube for example. Discover for yourself before you immediately arrive to such conclusions and rants.
GIF pictures play at light speed. Useless
Did you even read carefully what I was saying?? Read a manual, watch tutorials and stuff and I am beginning to think you are rather being offensive on this forum. Sorry for that. And the Aero snap features are cool too. You can drag a Window into the top of the screen and it would maximize, drag it to the side, it will fill half of the screen. Click on the rectangular button on the furthest right side of the taskbar and all your Windows get minimized and the Desktop is shown. Looking at the Control Panel alone, you see far more control choices than that on old Windows XP, a testimony of how much better Windows 7 is. The taskbar and Start Menu jumplists let you see and open recently opened files. And the Search function on the Start Menu can help you locate programs and files in your computer. Of course there are so much more new things in it that are helpful in one way or another. I actually find those as very helpful and a ton of improvements than Windows XP.



Sp3c5

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Quote:
So pinning you items to your Taskbar makes it like a QuickLaunch icon?
I never really cared for Quick Launch because you cannot properly organize your stuff. And the teskbar is nice for the essentials, but if you have a lot of shortcuts (50 or more), neither the Quick Launch nor the taskbar will do. For that I suggest to use the toolbars. They are so much more flexible, very easy to maintain and you can stuff anything into them

But for the really quick access items, I use. And if you "hide" it, it is not even in the way. It takes any shortcut (files, folders, URLs, devices, etc.)
Thanks for the tip. Upon watching the video it just makes me wonder more. You have two essential items that have always been around with Windows. That is the desktop ,obviously, and the great Start Menu (Not being sarcastic). In the video you showed me, it "bypasses" the Start Menu by create toolbars. Which XP has FYI. Telling me to use it now it like Apple and "Facetime". Video calls have been around way before "Facetime". No need to put old techniques on a silver platter. Every time I had a fresh install of XP, the first things I would always do is remove that damn "Links" bar beside the Icon Tray. It's what my Start Menu is for.

Second thing he mentions is he always likes to have a clean desktop. I respect that. He then continues to say that he never has more then two Icons on it. I beg your pardon but what are you using for then? The desktop that is.

I'm sorry, but I find that more people show me newer techniques, I can't help but ask myself; What makes this "Y" technique different or that much better from the previous "X" technique?

On another note, I don't want anybody thinking I actually hate Windows 7. My thread might be misleading, but it was more for; "7, I hate because of..."

I think the new OS from MS is fantastic and a great upgrade. Smooth and very appealing to use. Just a lot of the stuff out there makes wonder what they were thinking.

Sp3c5

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Vertex View Post
Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Sp3c5 View Post
Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Vertex View Post
I disagree with a lot of your statements. If you got to the Default program settings, you can just set Windows Media Player 12 to open up your .gif images. Trust me, I tried it and the .gif pictures move on Windows Media Player 12 or better yet like what someone else suggested, get a third party program to do that for you. There is a ton of advantage on Windows 7 over XP and I find XP's interface kind of antique when I use it. I suggest you watch tutorials of Windows 7 on Youtube so you get an better picture of how its done. And yes, read manuals, guides and tutorials. There's a lot of them on the Internet which you can read or watch for free. Youtube for example. Discover for yourself before you immediately arrive to such conclusions and rants.
GIF pictures play at light speed. Useless
Did you even read carefully what I was saying?? Read a manual, watch tutorials and stuff and I am beginning to think you are rather being offensive on this forum. Sorry for that. And the Aero snap features are cool too. You can drag a Window into the top of the screen and it would maximize, drag it to the side, it will fill half of the screen. Click on the rectangular button on the furthest right side of the taskbar and all your Windows get minimized and the Desktop is shown. Looking at the Control Panel alone, you see far more control choices than that on old Windows XP, a testimony of how much better Windows 7 is. The taskbar and Start Menu jumplists let you see and open recently opened files. And the Search function on the Start Menu can help you locate programs and files in your computer. Of course there are so much more new things in it that are helpful in one way or another. I actually find those as very helpful and a ton of improvements than Windows XP.

I guess I should of cut the quote early, my main focus was about WMP. I agree with reading and everything but telling me Windows Media Player is a solution was almost a joke. I have been using the Aero functions. They are great. However, this is not what I am complaining about. There are many things I have found fun. Like running command lines straight from the Start Menu in the "always to be displayed" search bar. Something I never got to experience since I'm a straight from XP to 7 OS.
Don't get me wrong. There are great improvements, just some a very questionable.

NoN

WHOOOOOOOSHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

The Wind blow my hair...loved that XP since before SP1....i can only love 7 more than nobody can think! It's still a MS Windows OS and you can't get lost with it!

I beat MS:

It wasn't my idea!

Kari

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Sp3c5 View Post
Cool Cool. But when I click to open a program, Chrome for example, the "Quick Launch" "disappears" and becomes a task bar tab. Now I have to Right Click->Open New Browser..
If you prefer the traditional QuickLaunch toolbar, it's still present in Seven, it's just not enabled by default. Quick Launch - Enable or Disable

Here's mine, in my vertical taskbar on the left side of the desktop:

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Kari

Sp3c5

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Kari View Post
Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Sp3c5 View Post
Cool Cool. But when I click to open a program, Chrome for example, the "Quick Launch" "disappears" and becomes a task bar tab. Now I have to Right Click->Open New Browser..
If you prefer the traditional QuickLaunch toolbar, it's still present in Seven, it's just not enabled by default. Quick Launch - Enable or Disable

Here's mine, in my vertical taskbar on the left side of the desktop:

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Kari
Thanks for the tut man! Although Iv'e managed to make a partial blend of XP and 7 that suits my needs. On the other, the side Taskbar made me realize I could have longer titles on the Taskbar tabs...great for multiple opened browsers.

whs

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Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Quote:
So pinning you items to your Taskbar makes it like a QuickLaunch icon?
I never really cared for Quick Launch because you cannot properly organize your stuff. And the teskbar is nice for the essentials, but if you have a lot of shortcuts (50 or more), neither the Quick Launch nor the taskbar will do. For that I suggest to use the toolbars. They are so much more flexible, very easy to maintain and you can stuff anything into them

But for the really quick access items, I use. And if you "hide" it, it is not even in the way. It takes any shortcut (files, folders, URLs, devices, etc.)
Thanks for the tip. Upon watching the video it just makes me wonder more. You have two essential items that have always been around with Windows. That is the desktop ,obviously, and the great Start Menu (Not being sarcastic). In the video you showed me, it "bypasses" the Start Menu by create toolbars. Which XP has FYI. Telling me to use it now it like Apple and "Facetime". Video calls have been around way before "Facetime". No need to put old techniques on a silver platter. Every time I had a fresh install of XP, the first things I would always do is remove that damn "Links" bar beside the Icon Tray. It's what my Start Menu is for.

Second thing he mentions is he always likes to have a clean desktop. I respect that. He then continues to say that he never has more then two Icons on it. I beg your pardon but what are you using for then? The desktop that is.

I'm sorry, but I find that more people show me newer techniques, I can't help but ask myself; What makes this "Y" technique different or that much better from the previous "X" technique?

On another note, I don't want anybody thinking I actually Windows 7. My thread might be misleading, but it was more for; "7, I hate because of..."

I think the new OS from MS is fantastic and a great upgrade. Smooth and very appealing to use. Just a lot of the stuff out there makes wonder what they were thinking.
I think you did not catch that I made this video tutorial and that I implemented it that way. But you are probably best advised to go back to XP and drive a Ford Model T.

Sp3c5

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Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Sp3c5 View Post
Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
I never really cared for Quick Launch because you cannot properly organize your stuff. And the teskbar is nice for the essentials, but if you have a lot of shortcuts (50 or more), neither the Quick Launch nor the taskbar will do. For that I suggest to use the toolbars. They are so much more flexible, very easy to maintain and you can stuff anything into them

But for the really quick access items, I use. And if you "hide" it, it is not even in the way. It takes any shortcut (files, folders, URLs, devices, etc.)
Thanks for the tip. Upon watching the video it just makes me wonder more. You have two essential items that have always been around with Windows. That is the desktop ,obviously, and the great Start Menu (Not being sarcastic). In the video you showed me, it "bypasses" the Start Menu by create toolbars. Which XP has FYI. Telling me to use it now it like Apple and "Facetime". Video calls have been around way before "Facetime". No need to put old techniques on a silver platter. Every time I had a fresh install of XP, the first things I would always do is remove that damn "Links" bar beside the Icon Tray. It's what my Start Menu is for.

Second thing he mentions is he always likes to have a clean desktop. I respect that. He then continues to say that he never has more then two Icons on it. I beg your pardon but what are you using for then? The desktop that is.

I'm sorry, but I find that more people show me newer techniques, I can't help but ask myself; What makes this "Y" technique different or that much better from the previous "X" technique?

On another note, I don't want anybody thinking I actually Windows 7. My thread might be misleading, but it was more for; "7, I hate because of..."

I think the new OS from MS is fantastic and a great upgrade. Smooth and very appealing to use. Just a lot of the stuff out there makes wonder what they were thinking.
I think you did not catch that I made this video tutorial and that I implemented it that way. But you are probably best advised to go back to XP and drive a Ford Model T.

My grandfather owns a Model T, I take your advise and enjoy every second of it. Something you won't be experiencing now will you?

Sp3c5

Well here is my desktop as of now. I thank Kari for the wonderful help!

NoN

Take it easy, here are some enjoyed guys whilling to help you find windows 7 easier & attractive.

Your desktop: that's a start, no?

Kari

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Well here is my desktop as of now.
One thing I would change: I assume you recognize the icons of apps you put in QuickLaunch, so explaining name strings are not needed. De-selecting Show Text in QuickLaunch gives you more space to use for icons, showing only the icons without name strings.

Right click an empty spot of QuicLaunch to show context menu, choose View submenu and uncheck Show Text. Notice that View menu item in QuickLaunch context menu is not visible if Taskbar is locked.

Kari



Sp3c5

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Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Sp3c5 View Post
Well here is my desktop as of now.
One thing I would change: I assume you recognize the icons of apps you put in QuickLaunch, so explaining name strings are not needed. De-selecting Show Text in QuickLaunch gives you more space to use for icons, showing only the icons without name strings.

Right click an empty spot of QuicLaunch to show context menu, choose View submenu and uncheck Show Text. Notice that View menu item in QuickLaunch context menu is not visible if Taskbar is locked.

Kari
Thanks Alot Again! I took away the text and sported Larger Icons. Looks really clean.

Kari

I like it with big icons, too, without name strings. You can see in the screenshot I posted a few posts ago that I have 29 apps in QuickLaunch; it makes the QL toolbar quite a big but using a vertical Taskbar it still leaves me more space for open apps than most users using Taskbar traditionally at bottom have. It also eliminates need for a third party dock, leaving more space on desktop.

Kari

Sp3c5

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Kari View Post
I like it with big icons, too, without name strings. You can see in the screenshot I posted a few posts ago that I have 29 apps in QuickLaunch; it makes the QL toolbar quite a big but using a vertical Taskbar it still leaves me more space for open apps than most users using Taskbar traditionally at bottom have. It also eliminates need for a third party dock, leaving more space on desktop.

Kari
I could not have said it better myself!

DeaconFrost

I'm wondering how long it will be until these threads end up with an instant ban for the thread starter.

Just because some things have changed from XP, doesn't suddenly make Windows 7 bad. Microsoft has to make an OS for hundreds of millions of people...not just you. If you want an OS that is fully customized out of the box exactly the way you like it, no one, I repeat, no one is stopping you from recompiling your own Linux kernel.

I'll borrow your car analogy. If you buy an Accord, and 8 years later you buy a new one...many things will change. New features and technology are added, so naturally the dashboard will change. So will the ride feel in the car. Is that a reason to get your underoos all in a bunch....or does it just mean you need to get used to what's new? That "what's new" is what makes Windows 7 so great.

We're here to help, for free, volunteering our time...so please don't insult us by asking how much we are paid to defend a great product. If you truly don't like Windows 7, then there's no reason why you can't create your own Linux distro...and I'm being completely serious.

Sorry for the rant, but you've been one in a long line of people to play this card. Nothing riles me up on here except people getting made over points that don't warrant the anger, and then making it difficult for those volunteering to provide assistance. Hopefully, now that you've been told about those threads, we can dispense with the crap and get all your questions answered. If you have more, keep asking.

Ah, there goes my blood pressure...falling.

thehappyman

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Hey guys,

I just came from XP to 7 Ultimate 64Bit to be able to utilize my 6GB of RAM. As of now, 7 is making me made nuts as there are a few things that drive to the point where I feel like I'm using a Mac because it simply just does not make any sense!

First thing I realized, I can't view GIFs in Photo Viewer no more and instead opens up IE (kind alike a Mac). WTFFFF. I have Chrome installed FFS. I don't want to be launching IE and even less just to view a bloody GIF image. So I right click it, Open With... I use the Search Box to find Chrome and yields no results. So then I try Photo Viewer and it's just a still image. At this point, I'm ready to throw the F*****G thing out the window. Dumbest thing I have ever seen!

Next in line; when I have Windows Explorer open and I want to navigate to a new destination, I click the drop down menu and... THERE IS NOTHING! Instead I got to open that Navigation Pane which is a total eye sore! Why include a F*****G drop down box and not include any relevant directories? Instead it's a very few list of recently opened, not important folders! What happened to XP style? That was functional!

The weirdest thing by far is the whole "Libraries" thing. What's the damn point? It's so annoying and I see it to be completely useless. Was it made for morons who can't properly find the desired folders so they go and mash em' up in some "virtual" folder? If I want my X and Y folder in the same directory ill just put em' together! What's the problem? You don't want your X and Y folder to be in the same directory? Move em'! It's like a "loop" folder.. I just really don't get it... Your Windows Explorer IS your library! Is the tool you use to organize your folders! So why would I need "Libraries"??

At this very moment, I've never raged so hard about an OS. I feel like Microsoft went to Mac route and screwed up even harder. That damn Windows Explorer icon beside the Start button is like Macs "Finder". Useless Junk icon. I open it up and brings me right to Libraries.. I'm going to throw this machine out onto a busy highway.

Now where did I put my XP CD... Damnit..

/EndRage

/Begin Question

If someone can please help me out with the Drop Down menu in Windows Explorer to show relevant locations it would be greatly appreciated!

And a way to view GIFs "normally".



/Thanks guys!
Hello Sp3c5,

I too came to Win 7 x64 directly from XP. At first I was "horrified" with what appeared to be unnecessary features, tons of overhead and complications, and I wasn't a happy camper.

But 6 Months later, after a little practice and studying, I now think the Win 7 X64 operating system is the best OS in the world (just my opinion). I will admit that to enjoy Win 7 x64 you will need to load a few useful (and usually free) utilities and I will admit that in general the "hardware requirements" for a nice Win 7 system are greater than what was required for an XP System, the REWARDS, once you get over the "hurdle" are very well worth it.

At first, I felt lost, going from XP to Win 7 x64 but now I don't want to use anything else. Trust me on this - it just takes time and a bit of effort. There is a lot of free help on this forum. Good Luck and I hope you stick with it

profdlp

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...I will admit that to enjoy Win 7 x64 you will need to load a few useful (and usually free) utilities...
I wonder how many of us loved XP right out of the box?

I can remember dreading doing a clean install because it seemed to take two weeks before I had every single last thing back the way I wanted it. (I didn't deal with disc images much in those days, though I don't know why.) To me, any untweaked OS wears like an off-the-rack suit; it'll do, but it's not so darn comfortable.

pparks1

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So pinning you items to your Taskbar makes it like a QuickLaunch icon?
More functionality, with rightclick history.

Serves nicely as a stable rocket dock.

Vertex

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Windows Live Installer. F**K off MS with all that damn bloat-ware you try to make me install when all I want it a damn MSN Messenger. It's small things like this that make me rage about MS.
I find it quite hysterical that your threat was no move away from MS and go to Apple then.

All in all, Windows is a commercial operating system there to satisfy millions. There is more or less 1 way and 1 standard. While you do have ability to modify it somewhat, you don't have complete and total control of the environment. For those who want complete and total control, there are many linux distros out there and they don't decide a whole heck of a lot for you. But then again, there are hundreds of distros, with multiple desktop managers, and no standards. Which makes it a bit confusing and difficult to use when everybody is doing or using something completely different.

Overall, I like Windows 7 a lot better than XP. It looks nicer, it's far more stable and it doesn't seem to fall apart after weeks, months, years of use. Does this mean that I adore every single aspect???....no. But I can deal with a few annoyances for the whole lot of improvements that I feel that I get.

The Libraries feature I actually like. I use it, I find it convenient. It allows me to easily aggregate a few different areas together in one view so that I don't have to navigate all over.

Guest

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Sp3c5 View Post
Well here is my desktop as of now. I thank Kari for the wonderful help!
I'd also recommend you to change your desktop background. Personalize>>Desktop Background and from the drop down list, you can choose to set image folders as wallpaper slideshows.

XploRa

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Sp3c5 View Post
Hey guys,

I just came from XP to 7 Ultimate 64Bit to be able to utilize my 6GB of RAM. As of now, 7 is making me made nuts as there are a few things that drive to the point where I feel like I'm using a Mac because it simply just does not make any sense!

First thing I realized, I can't view GIFs in Photo Viewer no more and instead opens up IE (kind alike a Mac). WTFFFF. I have Chrome installed FFS. I don't want to be launching IE and even less just to view a bloody GIF image. So I right click it, Open With... I use the Search Box to find Chrome and yields no results. So then I try Photo Viewer and it's just a still image. At this point, I'm ready to throw the F*****G thing out the window. Dumbest thing I have ever seen!

Next in line; when I have Windows Explorer open and I want to navigate to a new destination, I click the drop down menu and... THERE IS NOTHING! Instead I got to open that Navigation Pane which is a total eye sore! Why include a F*****G drop down box and not include any relevant directories? Instead it's a very few list of recently opened, not important folders! What happened to XP style? That was functional!

The weirdest thing by far is the whole "Libraries" thing. What's the damn point? It's so annoying and I see it to be completely useless. Was it made for morons who can't properly find the desired folders so they go and mash em' up in some "virtual" folder? If I want my X and Y folder in the same directory ill just put em' together! What's the problem? You don't want your X and Y folder to be in the same directory? Move em'! It's like a "loop" folder.. I just really don't get it... Your Windows Explorer IS your library! Is the tool you use to organize your folders! So why would I need "Libraries"??

At this very moment, I've never raged so hard about an OS. I feel like Microsoft went to Mac route and screwed up even harder. That damn Windows Explorer icon beside the Start button is like Macs "Finder". Useless Junk icon. I open it up and brings me right to Libraries.. I'm going to throw this machine out onto a busy highway.

Now where did I put my XP CD... Damnit..

/EndRage

/Begin Question

If someone can please help me out with the Drop Down menu in Windows Explorer to show relevant locations it would be greatly appreciated!

And a way to view GIFs "normally".



/Thanks guys!
Great stuff!
I have wanted to lash out at this Windows shit!
its F........g ridiculous!



Sp3c5

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Vertex View Post
Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Sp3c5 View Post
Well here is my desktop as of now. I thank Kari for the wonderful help!
I'd also recommend you to change your desktop background. Personalize>>Desktop Background and from the drop down list, you can choose to set image folders as wallpaper slideshows.
Thanks for the tip but I actually like the default color tone it gives to Windows aero. I also like this forum for how appealling it is. The blues and whites blend nicely.

Sp3c5

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Great stuff!
I have wanted to lash out at this Windows shit!
its F........g ridiculous!
Lol thanks for agreeing to my point of views. Most stuff is fixable by bypassing it in some weird manner. Like trying to pin a folder to the taskar. It frustrated me alot. I would make a shorcut, drag it to the taskbar to pin it, open it and... Back to the god damned libraries folder. Lol. It was not making any sense to me.

Cheers

Vertex

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Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by XploRa View Post
Great stuff!
I have wanted to lash out at this Windows shit!
its F........g ridiculous!
Lol thanks for agreeing to my point of views. Most stuff is fixable by bypassing it in some weird manner. Like trying to pin a folder to the taskar. It frustrated me alot. I would make a shorcut, drag it to the taskbar to pin it, open it and... Back to the god damned libraries folder. Lol. It was not making any sense to me.

Cheers
I think the Libraries function is a very good feature if you learn how to use it. It puzzled me a bit at first but one good summary of that it is one place you can go to check a collection of similar files or data which are stored in different locations of the computer at the same time be it pictures, videos, documents, etc.. But of course you have to modify this yourself but believe me, its very easy and I thank God, they put this function.

In my case, I have a folder in my drive D: called "Videos" where I keep my video files of course but its a separate location from the "My Videos" area on the user folder. The solution: add both the "My Videos" folder and the "Videos" folder from my drive D: to the Videos Library so I can view them all as an organized list at the same time. And I still have the option to add even more locations to this library. You can do the same thing for your other libraries such as music, pictures and documents. You even have the option to make new libraries. If you wanna make it neat, you should store similar or relevant files on the folders you add into your library. Here is a screenshot demo I have for you. In my case, all the files you can see on the list are all videos, I keep my other files on their designated libraries.

kado897

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Vertex View Post
I think the Libraries function is a very good feature if you learn how to use it. It puzzled me a bit at first but one good summary of that it is one place you can go to check a collection of similar files or data which are stored in different locations of the computer at the same time be it pictures, videos, documents, etc.. But of course you have to modify this yourself but believe me, its very easy and I thank God, they put this function.

In my case, I have a folder in my drive D: called "Videos" where I keep my video files of course but its a separate location from the "My Videos" area on the user folder. The solution: add both the "My Videos" folder and the "Videos" folder from my drive D: to the Videos Library so I can view them all as an organized list at the same time. And I still have the option to add even more locations to this library. You can do the same thing for your other libraries such as music, pictures and documents. You even have the option to make new libraries. If you wanna make it neat, you should store similar files on the folders you add into your library. Here is a screenshot demo I have for you. In my case, all the files you can see on the list are all videos, I keep my other files on their designated libraries.
Not only that. You are not stuck with the ones W7 provides you can create your own libraries with whatever you want in them.

-capture.jpg

NoN

I like those librairies because i can allocate them to a special folder then store my datas in them.
I can split datas between places on my computer. i do use them to grab two places to store files. The only thing is that you'll have to use homegroup settings.

C:\users\user is mine, datas docs only
C:\users\public, is shared/loaded with heavy files as videos and music.

That's a great improvement, I can extract where i want, splits, move to copy to, ect...to organize

Imperfect1

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Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Sp3c5 View Post
Hey guys,

I just came from XP to 7 Ultimate 64Bit to be able to utilize my 6GB of RAM. As of now, 7 is making me made nuts as there are a few things that drive to the point where I feel like I'm using a Mac because it simply just does not make any sense!

First thing I realized, I can't view GIFs in Photo Viewer no more and instead opens up IE (kind alike a Mac). WTFFFF. I have Chrome installed FFS. I don't want to be launching IE and even less just to view a bloody GIF image. So I right click it, Open With... I use the Search Box to find Chrome and yields no results. So then I try Photo Viewer and it's just a still image. At this point, I'm ready to throw the F*****G thing out the window. Dumbest thing I have ever seen!

Next in line; when I have Windows Explorer open and I want to navigate to a new destination, I click the drop down menu and... THERE IS NOTHING! Instead I got to open that Navigation Pane which is a total eye sore! Why include a F*****G drop down box and not include any relevant directories? Instead it's a very few list of recently opened, not important folders! What happened to XP style? That was functional!

The weirdest thing by far is the whole "Libraries" thing. What's the damn point? It's so annoying and I see it to be completely useless. Was it made for morons who can't properly find the desired folders so they go and mash em' up in some "virtual" folder? If I want my X and Y folder in the same directory ill just put em' together! What's the problem? You don't want your X and Y folder to be in the same directory? Move em'! It's like a "loop" folder.. I just really don't get it... Your Windows Explorer IS your library! Is the tool you use to organize your folders! So why would I need "Libraries"??

At this very moment, I've never raged so hard about an OS. I feel like Microsoft went to Mac route and screwed up even harder. That damn Windows Explorer icon beside the Start button is like Macs "Finder". Useless Junk icon. I open it up and brings me right to Libraries.. I'm going to throw this machine out onto a busy highway.

Now where did I put my XP CD... Damnit..

/EndRage

/Begin Question

If someone can please help me out with the Drop Down menu in Windows Explorer to show relevant locations it would be greatly appreciated!

And a way to view GIFs "normally".



/Thanks guys!
Great stuff!
I have wanted to lash out at this Windows shit!
its F........g ridiculous!
I completely understand both of you being upset with certain decisions made by Microsoft. But why take it out and rant at US? We're just the posters on Sevens Forum. We have no power to make any changes at Microsoft. Why don't you contact Microsoft and TELL THEM what upsets you???? Who knows, you might even help to get some changes made!!!

whs

Imperfect1, you are absolutely right. We are an all volunteer technical forum who try to help people solve technical problems. We are not a social rant forum and I think the mods should close this thread. It is getting ridiculous.

pparks1

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Imperfect1, you are absolutely right. We are an all volunteer technical forum who try to help people solve technical problems. We are not a social rant forum and I think the mods should close this thread. It is getting ridiculous.
I think having rants is necessary, in fact it presents a balanced view of Windows 7 in general. If everything here is just sunshine and rainbows, it doesn't seem like it's accurate. You gotta take the good with the bad.

DeaconFrost

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Why don't you contact Microsoft and TELL THEM what upsets you???? Who knows, you might even help to get some changes made!!!
I will guarantee you that not one of these weekly ranters we have participated in the Windows 7 beta program and gave their feedback and comments. Not one.

kado897

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Imperfect1 View Post
Why don't you contact Microsoft and TELL THEM what upsets you???? Who knows, you might even help to get some changes made!!!
I will guarantee you that not one of these weekly ranters we have participated in the Windows 7 beta program and gave their feedback and comments. Not one.
You're right. To be a beta tester you must have a mind that is open to change. Enough said!



Imperfect1

That's really sad and unfortunate too, because the problems many of these people were ranting about were, for the most part, legitimate complaints that could've been/and should've been addressed by Microsoft.

pparks1

It seems hard to believe that a select few individuals would have seen all of these issues, while the rest of the millions that were part of the beta simply missed them or forgot to mention them. I'm pretty sure the changes that were made were for a reason, whether we truly understand it or not. In fact, some of the changes might be a baby step for what is to come with future versions of Windows.

kado897

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That's really sad and unfortunate too, because the problems many of these people were ranting about were, for the most part, legitimate complaints that could've been/and should've been addressed by Microsoft.
Yes, It's interesting that most of the complaints are about libraries, probably the biggest and best change to windows file handling ever. Microsoft should have publicized the change much better and the help system is very basic. They took a fair bit of researching before I found them usable but now I am a big fan. The implementation however is, in places, flawed and inconsistent. There are too many restrictions and cases where if you use one feature you cant use another, but at least it's a start.

pparks1

I guess what surprises me about Libraries, is how simply they are to ignore. There is no reason to have to use them if you don't want to. For some things, I use them quite a bit. For others, I haven't bothered to build a library and instead just do it the normal way and it's no problem whatsoever switching back and forth between the two.

1Bowtie

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I guess what surprises me about Libraries, is how simply they are to ignore. There is no reason to have to use them if you don't want to. For some things, I use them quite a bit. For others, I haven't bothered to build a library and instead just do it the normal way and it's no problem whatsoever switching back and forth between the two.
+1 I agree, i don't use them all the time either but they are there if i need them

whs

There is a basic problem for every (operating system) developer. If he propagates too many legacy functions, the system gets bloated and people will complain about that. It is also a cost problem for later maintenance. If he skips legacy functions, other people will complain that they cannot do things they used to do.

The developer is really caught between a rock and a hard place. Since I have done this for 35 years, I can assure you that a tremendous amount of thought goes into this one area.

The other problem is that some new function may make it impossible to continue an old function. E.g. some of the new Win7 screen functions seem to have prevented to carry forward the dock function from pushing a folder to the top of the screen.

kado897

There is also the size of the community to take into account. I too was a developer for many years fortunately for a relatively small group. Even here, where we had close integration with the users, there were always some were not happy to change the way things were done.

metalmania31

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 View Post
Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Vertex View Post
I think the Libraries function is a very good feature if you learn how to use it. It puzzled me a bit at first but one good summary of that it is one place you can go to check a collection of similar files or data which are stored in different locations of the computer at the same time be it pictures, videos, documents, etc.. But of course you have to modify this yourself but believe me, its very easy and I thank God, they put this function.

In my case, I have a folder in my drive D: called "Videos" where I keep my video files of course but its a separate location from the "My Videos" area on the user folder. The solution: add both the "My Videos" folder and the "Videos" folder from my drive D: to the Videos Library so I can view them all as an organized list at the same time. And I still have the option to add even more locations to this library. You can do the same thing for your other libraries such as music, pictures and documents. You even have the option to make new libraries. If you wanna make it neat, you should store similar files on the folders you add into your library. Here is a screenshot demo I have for you. In my case, all the files you can see on the list are all videos, I keep my other files on their designated libraries.
Not only that. You are not stuck with the ones W7 provides you can create your own libraries with whatever you want in them.

Attachment 142041
Off topic, but how can you stand all the Norton Backup overlays?

Sp3c5

OK this is beyond me. I'm not sure if some settings were touched, but as far as I am concerned, I have not touched any regarding this.

A simple .jpg image fails to display properly.

XP viewer on the left, 7 Viewer on the right.

Ill include the original jpg. Compare with me please just to make sure it's not my computer the problem.

PeaB4YouGo

I gotta ask if that's the only JPG that shows up that way. Yes, it does the same thing on my box, and yes, it shows up fine in Picasa. The thing is, it's the only one in my collection of several hundred JPGs that shows like this in Windows Photo Viewer.



Sp3c5

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by PeaB4YouGo View Post
I gotta ask if that's the only JPG that shows up that way. Yes, it does the same thing on my box, and yes, it shows up fine in Picasa. The thing is, it's the only one in my collection of several hundred JPGs that shows like this in Windows Photo Viewer.
Actual while browsing my pictures, a couple showed up like this.

kado897

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Off topic, but how can you stand all the Norton Backup overlays?
I turn them off and on for a bit of light relief.

vaidas3

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Sp3c5 View Post
OK this is beyond me. I'm not sure if some settings were touched, but as far as I am concerned, I have not touched any regarding this.

A simple .jpg image fails to display properly.

XP viewer on the left, 7 Viewer on the right.

Ill include the original jpg. Compare with me please just to make sure it's not my computer the problem.
windows live gallery has the same problem. I had this problem with some of other jpgs using windows 7 image viewer and windows live gallery.. seems like it's microsoft imaging component problem... and yes i agree it is really sad that it does not display gif images (animation)..

unifex

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Sp3c5 View Post
OK this is beyond me. I'm not sure if some settings were touched, but as far as I am concerned, I have not touched any regarding this.

A simple .jpg image fails to display properly.

XP viewer on the left, 7 Viewer on the right.

Ill include the original jpg. Compare with me please just to make sure it's not my computer the problem.

I have downloaded your image and I have no problem viewing it in the Photo Viewer on my Windows 7 Ultimate x64. I have never tweaked the Photo Viewer in any way.

I should also mention, that I have no problem viewing almost any other image files in Photo Viewer, including gif, png, jpg, bmp, etc. Animated gif files I have do not animate in Photo Viewer, in fact, I am not sure if it's supposed to animate them at all. In comparison with older versions of Windows, I see no difference in how the Photo Viewer behaves, although the app might have changed names (not so sure about that).

vaidas3

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by unifex View Post
I have downloaded your image and I have no problem viewing it in the Photo Viewer on my Windows 7 Ultimate x64. I have never tweaked the Photo Viewer in any way.

I should also mention, that I have no problem viewing almost any other image files in Photo Viewer, including gif, png, jpg, bmp, etc. Animated gif files I have do not animate in Photo Viewer, in fact, I am not sure if it's supposed to animate them at all. In comparison with older versions of Windows, I see no difference in how the Photo Viewer behaves, although the app might have changed names (not so sure about that).
how? I did not tweak or modify my windows live photo gallery in any way, and i got this problem its same in windows 7 photo viewer
please tell do you have windows essentials (photo gallery, movie maker etc.) installed?

and gif images are usually animated so viewing them without animation is no use..

kado897

The only way to view an animated gif in windows 7 without a 3rd party app is in a web browser or, very badly, in Windows media Player.

unifex

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how? I did not tweak or modify my windows live photo gallery in any way, and i got this problem its same in windows 7 photo viewer
please tell do you have windows essentials (photo gallery, movie maker etc.) installed?

and gif images are usually animated so viewing them without animation is no use..
I do not have Windows Live Essentials installed. I am just using the original Photo Viewer. All I did was I simply downloaded the file the OP provided, saved it on my Desktop, and double-clicked on it.

Personally, I have many gif files without animation. I admit that lately most image files are jpg though.

Imperfect1

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The only way to view an animated gif in windows 7 without a 3rd party app is in a web browser or, very badly, in Windows media Player.
By "web browser" I'm assuming you were referring to Internet Explorer, which displays them perfectly. Don't know about the others. . .

kado897

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Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 View Post
The only way to view an animated gif in windows 7 without a 3rd party app is in a web browser or, very badly, in Windows media Player.
By "web browser" I'm assuming you were referring to Internet Explorer, which displays them perfectly. Don't know about the others. . .
Yes IE although they should display properly in any web browser. It is WMP which displays them badly.

NoN

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OK this is beyond me. I'm not sure if some settings were touched, but as far as I am concerned, I have not touched any regarding this.

A simple .jpg image fails to display properly.

XP viewer on the left, 7 Viewer on the right.

Ill include the original jpg. Compare with me please just to make sure it's not my computer the problem.
windows live gallery has the same problem. I had this problem with some of other jpgs using windows 7 image viewer and windows live gallery.. seems like it's microsoft imaging component problem... and yes i agree it is really sad that it does not display gif images (animation)..
You can tune the way you like the default assiociation of files for Windows Photo Viewer & Windows Live Gallery:
Default Programs - Set a Program's Default Associations

and restore default:
Default File Type Associations - Restore



Layback Bear

After reading all these post I would say the OP should give Windows 7 and yourself a little time to know each other. It takes a little getting use to. It is not like the older systems. I was very happy with XP-PRO but I much happier with Windows 7 once I got use to it. Relax and give yourself a little time.

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