Hmmm so I am pretty mad right now. 1) The forums telling me that win 7 was a ok b) poeple in the industry was telling me that it was safe go for it c) not following my gut instinct and getting windows 7.
It is the biggest hunk of garbage I have ever dealt with, my work flow is completely in shambles because win 7 cannot physically keep up with my demnads. I could run so many programs concurrently with XP and now I am lucky to run notepad and moziilla firefox at the same time with out serious delays to happen.
I cannot express how much I hate this. I cannot believe I am saying this but I am holding my flag up as i walk towards mac. I hate macs but atleast they work. I have a fully functional super computer to run win 7 (rated 5.9 for the hard drive but 6.5 is my lowest common denominator after that) and I seriously can't do anything except surf the net and watch movies.
suck it up i guess and move on. SERIOUSLY A BIG FU To Microsoft though.
It is the biggest hunk of garbage I have ever dealt with, my work flow is completely in shambles because win 7 cannot physically keep up with my demnads. I could run so many programs concurrently with XP and now I am lucky to run notepad and moziilla firefox at the same time with out serious delays to happen.
I cannot express how much I hate this. I cannot believe I am saying this but I am holding my flag up as i walk towards mac. I hate macs but atleast they work. I have a fully functional super computer to run win 7 (rated 5.9 for the hard drive but 6.5 is my lowest common denominator after that) and I seriously can't do anything except surf the net and watch movies.
suck it up i guess and move on. SERIOUSLY A BIG FU To Microsoft though. hello and welcome,
calm down friends, could you say detail what is your problems,,
all of use windows 7 and run well. if you got a problem, so we can help you. that's way we're here.
calm down friends, could you say detail what is your problems,,
all of use windows 7 and run well. if you got a problem, so we can help you. that's way we're here.
Hi ihatewin7,
There's no doubt that either there's a software or hardware based problem that needs sorting out. You should be able to run multiple programs easily with no interference. Tell us about your Windows 7 installation and how long you've had it. Tell us what programs are started on startup and why you think this slowness is being caused.
Thanks,
Harvey Meale
There's no doubt that either there's a software or hardware based problem that needs sorting out. You should be able to run multiple programs easily with no interference. Tell us about your Windows 7 installation and how long you've had it. Tell us what programs are started on startup and why you think this slowness is being caused.
Thanks,
Harvey Meale
Thanks folks,
really nothing unusual. I have photoshop installed, vlc, mozilla, open source office and itunes. Nothing out of the ordinary. My XP computer has pro tools, adobe suite, vegas, (computer games SPORE. SIMS 3 countless open source games) and runs swimmingly well (for years). WIN 7 i will be on the internet installing adobe flash for mozilla and everything freezes. It's a nightmare. I almost smashed my keyboard when the disk from hell came up the last time. At that point i had notepad, mozilla and itunes running. I just cannot understand that a newer version can do way less things than it's predecessor. Really really upset.
really nothing unusual. I have photoshop installed, vlc, mozilla, open source office and itunes. Nothing out of the ordinary. My XP computer has pro tools, adobe suite, vegas, (computer games SPORE. SIMS 3 countless open source games) and runs swimmingly well (for years). WIN 7 i will be on the internet installing adobe flash for mozilla and everything freezes. It's a nightmare. I almost smashed my keyboard when the disk from hell came up the last time. At that point i had notepad, mozilla and itunes running. I just cannot understand that a newer version can do way less things than it's predecessor. Really really upset.
Is your computer freezing, or is it giving you a BSOD??
What antivirus/security software are you running?
Fully updated drivers?
Download process explorer and see if anything is working in the background:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb896653.aspx
Fully updated drivers?
Download process explorer and see if anything is working in the background:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb896653.aspx
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i will be on the internet installing adobe flash for mozilla and everything freezes
Freezing, for ages and ages. Often i get so frustrated i force the restart. Mozilla seems really awful in windows 7 and i cannot get flash to work properly. I had to go to IE to hear some songs in myspace. And so got to see Bing for the first time and for the record that sucks too.
Haven't seen the bsod yet in win7. Shouldn't be long now.
If any of you guys out there are experiencing good results what type and amount of programs are you using? What should i expect if all things are going well (eg similar to my experience with XP?) Is Mozilla causing conflicts?
Haven't seen the bsod yet in win7. Shouldn't be long now.
If any of you guys out there are experiencing good results what type and amount of programs are you using? What should i expect if all things are going well (eg similar to my experience with XP?) Is Mozilla causing conflicts?
Hi ihatewin7,
You know what? I think the best thing for you would be to run a complete reinstall of the operating system. Ensure you're using a legitimate copy of Windows 7. There's a possibility that hardware's the problem, but if this is the same computer as the one XP was running on, then I don't see why that would be considered likely.
My recommendation would be to reformat or do a fresh install. If that doesn't work, perhaps your PC is suffering from malfunctioning hardware. Best of luck.
Thanks,
Harvey Meale
You know what? I think the best thing for you would be to run a complete reinstall of the operating system. Ensure you're using a legitimate copy of Windows 7. There's a possibility that hardware's the problem, but if this is the same computer as the one XP was running on, then I don't see why that would be considered likely.
My recommendation would be to reformat or do a fresh install. If that doesn't work, perhaps your PC is suffering from malfunctioning hardware. Best of luck.
Thanks,
Harvey Meale
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If any of you guys out there are experiencing good results what type and amount of programs are you using? What should i expect if all things are going well (eg similar to my experience with XP?) Is Mozilla causing conflicts?
Firefox runs fine in Windows 7, I have no issues with it at all, apart from the hoops you have to jump through to install flash "download the download manager, restart firefox, download flash, install flash, restart firefox, now pray it worked (which tbf 9 times out of 10 it does)"
Im going to go with Harvey here and say that maybe you should just take the plunge and reinstall. Might be worth checking for firefox upgrades, or try uninstalling and reinstalling firefox to see if it works though....
What addons do you have installed in Firefox ?
Some poorly written addons can freeze everything.
and also, do you have Tortoise SVN installed?
Some poorly written addons can freeze everything.
and also, do you have Tortoise SVN installed?
Hey Harvey,
It is a legitimate copy of win 7. I really rely on a functioning computers. Check my spec's albeit not great but even according to WEI (asus mobo pro, amd cpu 250, 4gb ddr3 ram) it's fine, . I originally built it for HTPC but my business required it as a work horse so kinda got snatched. So I am trying to get it working alongside my XP (which is fine) intel e8400, asus pro mobo, 4 gb of ddr2 ram, nvidia 9500 (again not great but does the job)
It is a legitimate copy of win 7. I really rely on a functioning computers. Check my spec's albeit not great but even according to WEI (asus mobo pro, amd cpu 250, 4gb ddr3 ram) it's fine, . I originally built it for HTPC but my business required it as a work horse so kinda got snatched. So I am trying to get it working alongside my XP (which is fine) intel e8400, asus pro mobo, 4 gb of ddr2 ram, nvidia 9500 (again not great but does the job)
Lets see...
I'm running the latest version of Firefox with addons that add Glass and Firefox 4.0 UI elements to 3.6. I also have the latest version of Flash. While I am running Firefox with several tabs open, I have Visual Studio 2010 with a small project open and a few files in use. At the same time I have Zune playing my music collection from my external HDD which requires extra CPU cycles. Added to that I have a 1080 HD video playing on Youtube. All of those is on a 1920x1200 screen that near maxes out the capabilities of my Graphics card.
And you know what? No issues, all run without lag or hiccups. To make it worse, my computer sucks compared to yours.
Your problems lead me to believe there is an underlying problem with either the programs you installed or hardware.
I'm running the latest version of Firefox with addons that add Glass and Firefox 4.0 UI elements to 3.6. I also have the latest version of Flash. While I am running Firefox with several tabs open, I have Visual Studio 2010 with a small project open and a few files in use. At the same time I have Zune playing my music collection from my external HDD which requires extra CPU cycles. Added to that I have a 1080 HD video playing on Youtube. All of those is on a 1920x1200 screen that near maxes out the capabilities of my Graphics card.
And you know what? No issues, all run without lag or hiccups. To make it worse, my computer sucks compared to yours.
Your problems lead me to believe there is an underlying problem with either the programs you installed or hardware.
#1 harvey i would also clean install ,i have had no problems at all getting windows 7 to operate well, any issues ive had have largely been down to opperator error , they happen less and less as i learn my way around
yes i am talking about firefox. I thought the changeover to IE would have probably made it fairly obvious.
ok logicearth, that's actually what i needed to hear. Opinion most likely software?
�� Quote: Originally Posted by ihatewin7 yes i am talking about firefox. I thought the changeover to IE would have probably made it fairly obvious.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by ihatewin7 Freezing, for ages and ages. Often i get so frustrated i force the restart.
I've also heard that the latest Adobe Flash hotfix might have some install issues unless all active browser windows are closed prior to attempting the installation.
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�� Quote: Originally Posted by ihatewin7 ok logicearth, that's actually what i needed to hear. Opinion most likely software?
BTW. I was simply pointing out that you were confusing the issue when you just say "Mozilla" rather than Firefox. Its helpful in these matters to be as clear as possible. Really don't appreciate your tone.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by ihatewin7 yes i am talking about firefox. I thought the changeover to IE would have probably made it fairly obvious.
Some poorly written addons can freeze everything.
Try running Firefox in Safe mode.
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"C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe" -safe-mode
Hi, I had XP running for years without any problems, it was bullet proof, then the MB went pop and fried it's self. So 2 weeks ago I bought a new PC wth Win7 home premium on it, that was the start of my troubles. I don't think a day has gone by without trouble, anyhow, some of the tips I have found which have helped are (1) remove AVG9 if installed (2) Adobe flash, disable hardware accelleration. I hope this helps you a bit.
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Your reaction seems close to my own when I first installed window 7 64bit. I would stick around these forums and ask a few questions. There is enough brain power here to sort things out, I'm sure. My own problems were mainly due to a crap configuration by the computer builder, and a whole load of out of date drivers. 90% sorted by these forums and my guess is, remaining problems 'might' get sorted with Service Pack 1, when it arrives.
However, I could go for a power mac, equivalent spec apart from RAID 1 + 0 would cost me around �6k
Or, work at it and save ���K's, the latter option is for me. The result is, I admit, maybe not as stable as a mac, but, I have a PC work horse that can open as many apps as I want, open over 100 full res raw images at the same time in PS CS5 (just because I can 
) and run Premiere CS5 as well.
Installed software: Office 2007, Adobe CS5 (full monty), Firefox, iTunes, Capture NX2. That's about it.
Your reaction seems close to my own when I first installed window 7 64bit. I would stick around these forums and ask a few questions. There is enough brain power here to sort things out, I'm sure. My own problems were mainly due to a crap configuration by the computer builder, and a whole load of out of date drivers. 90% sorted by these forums and my guess is, remaining problems 'might' get sorted with Service Pack 1, when it arrives.
However, I could go for a power mac, equivalent spec apart from RAID 1 + 0 would cost me around �6k
Or, work at it and save ���K's, the latter option is for me. The result is, I admit, maybe not as stable as a mac, but, I have a PC work horse that can open as many apps as I want, open over 100 full res raw images at the same time in PS CS5 (just because I can ) and run Premiere CS5 as well.Installed software: Office 2007, Adobe CS5 (full monty), Firefox, iTunes, Capture NX2. That's about it.
I suggest you have a look into the Event Viewer to see whether any unusual events were recorded. It is obvious that your system is defunct somewhere. We'll just have to find the cause and the Event Viewer is a good starting point.
Go to Start > Right click on Computer > Manage > Event Viewer - or type Event Viewer into Start/search and hit Enter
Go to Start > Right click on Computer > Manage > Event Viewer - or type Event Viewer into Start/search and hit Enter
Have a look in task manager click show 'processes from all users' then click the cpu tab so it sorts by highest usage and look to see what's eating all you cpu cycles!!
Hi ihatewin7,
I failed to mention that malware is also a likely possibility. Have you run any scans recently?
Thanks,
Harvey Meale
I failed to mention that malware is also a likely possibility. Have you run any scans recently?
Thanks,
Harvey Meale
ihatewin7.
The first add on you may want to try to disable would be the McAfee site advisor, I have had issues were my PC cpu shot up to 100%. After some investigation I pin pointed the problem at being the site advisor.
The first add on you may want to try to disable would be the McAfee site advisor, I have had issues were my PC cpu shot up to 100%. After some investigation I pin pointed the problem at being the site advisor.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by BomberAF ihatewin7.
The first add on you may want to try to disable would be the McAfee site advisor, I have had issues were my PC cpu shot up to 100%. After some investigation I pin pointed the problem at being the site advisor.
The first add on you may want to try to disable would be the McAfee site advisor, I have had issues were my PC cpu shot up to 100%. After some investigation I pin pointed the problem at being the site advisor.
Instead of a clean install, how about disabling all non ms services and startup through msconfig just to see if it still purrs.
I think it's obvious that there is something corrupted in this installation. Trying to fix it only prolongs the agony and frustration. I think the OP should wipe, format and reinstall Win 7, then install any missing drivers, followed by Firefox. At that point, he should STOP and evaluate the performance of the system before continuing to install ANY additional software.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by MacGyvr I think it's obvious that there is something corrupted in this installation. Trying to fix it only prolongs the agony and frustration. I think the OP should wipe, format and reinstall Win 7, then install any missing drivers, followed by Firefox. At that point, he should STOP and evaluate the performance of the system before continuing to install ANY additional software.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by MacGyvr I think it's obvious that there is something corrupted in this installation. Trying to fix it only prolongs the agony and frustration. I think the OP should wipe, format and reinstall Win 7, then install any missing drivers, followed by Firefox. At that point, he should STOP and evaluate the performance of the system before continuing to install ANY additional software.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by MacGyvr I think it's obvious that there is something corrupted in this installation. Trying to fix it only prolongs the agony and frustration. I think the OP should wipe, format and reinstall Win 7, then install any missing drivers, followed by Firefox. At that point, he should STOP and evaluate the performance of the system before continuing to install ANY additional software.
A big + 4 here. Then I would make a restore point and update Windows which will make another restore point. If every thing goes well you have a point to return to if needed as you continue.
+5. A clean install will fix 1) any problems with corrupted system files, 2) remove any viruses, and 3) fix any current problems with poorly installed software.
Since it was never answered, what AV do you use?
These tutorials will help make sure what you do is a clean install, will the least likely hood of problems.
SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation
Clean Install Windows 7
Clean Install with a Upgrade Windows 7 Version
Since it was never answered, what AV do you use?
These tutorials will help make sure what you do is a clean install, will the least likely hood of problems.
SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation
Clean Install Windows 7
Clean Install with a Upgrade Windows 7 Version
Before I tried a full re-install I would check that my video drivers are up to date.
I had an issue with it freezing like you when I first ran Win7. Turned out my video drivers were not current and the card was lacking, so I upgraded.
Might be worth a try.
Also which version of Win7 are you running.. there are differences!
and which version of FF. The original 3.5* had a memory leak that would cause it to hang the system up after a while (on my PC anyway), so I moved to Chrome and have not looked back.
Still use FF (3.6.8 currently) at work, but not at home.
I had an issue with it freezing like you when I first ran Win7. Turned out my video drivers were not current and the card was lacking, so I upgraded.
Might be worth a try.
Also which version of Win7 are you running.. there are differences!
and which version of FF. The original 3.5* had a memory leak that would cause it to hang the system up after a while (on my PC anyway), so I moved to Chrome and have not looked back.
Still use FF (3.6.8 currently) at work, but not at home.
Wow, you guys are awesome. Thank you all. I will have a go at your suggestions tonight and let you know what it is. I think firefox is probably the bandit in this picture. But hey it could be anything. I still don't have 100% faith that I can work with WIN7 in the same manner as I work with XP. This may change with the forthcoming service pack.
oh i use Sophos AV. We get it free from work.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by ihatewin7 oh i use Sophos AV. We get it free from work.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by ihatewin7 oh i use Sophos AV. We get it free from work.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by whs �� Quote: Originally Posted by ihatewin7 oh i use Sophos AV. We get it free from work.
Agreed with others, but Sophos AV? Wow never heard someone use that before...maybe that's the cause of his problems..who knows...
Adding my voice to the corruption probability.
~Lordbob
~Lordbob
The only thing I know about Sophos, is that a lot of people get it for free. People that go to certain school, or work for certain companies get it. The only person I know that actually installed it, said she didn't like it. It might be making your computer slow. Worst case scenario, you waste an hour uninstalling it and reinstalling.
Yea..Windows 7 isnt bad. In fact...alot of Hardcore XP users were actually switching over to 7. Thats the 1st time in yearsssssss. XP has been on top since it came out. Not saying its NOT on top now...but Windows 7 is the closest thing to knockin off XP.
Actually, XP was one of the most criticized versions of Windows ever when it first came out. Even ME wasn't as hated. It even earned its own article one Wikipedia just for criticism, something that has only been achieved by XP and Vista (in terms of MS software).
Criticism of Windows XP - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
People have just become used to XP. It had been Microsoft's main product for 6 years, twice as long as any other version of Windows. For a lot of the younger crowd, that is between a forth and half of their life.
Criticism of Windows XP - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
People have just become used to XP. It had been Microsoft's main product for 6 years, twice as long as any other version of Windows. For a lot of the younger crowd, that is between a forth and half of their life.
I always hated windows 2000 V5.1 Sorry XP with its cartoon graphics high failure rate low security and half a$$ed Home version, with half it's limited features missing. but after SP2 it became about usable 
For me...i never saw what the really big thing was for XP. Everyone always talked like it was the best Operation System. It was the lightest maybe. Using not much resoources. Thats the main reason it seemed that people liked it.
I hated the search in XP. When Vista 1st came out....the whole world seemed to "Dis" it. Because it used alot of your resources and took alot of RAM to run they claimed. But ME....i never had any problem at all with Vista. I actually kinda like it. The search was one of its coolest features. They would say Vista slowed down your PC. I had 1.5 GB of RAM on my 1st Vista laptop. Wasnt too bad at all. Then now..i have 3GB of RAM on this laptop im on now. With Vista Premium on it. Seems fine. So it seems more like...if you have a rig...that has lets say...8Gb of RAM and 750GB HDD...wouldnt Vista seem "small" on a rig like that? So when Vista 1st came out and they said it was a resource hog...i always thought...it depends on the persons PC specs. If they got 16GB of RAM...there Vista is gonna feel like XP. Plus better if u ask me.
I hated the search in XP. When Vista 1st came out....the whole world seemed to "Dis" it. Because it used alot of your resources and took alot of RAM to run they claimed. But ME....i never had any problem at all with Vista. I actually kinda like it. The search was one of its coolest features. They would say Vista slowed down your PC. I had 1.5 GB of RAM on my 1st Vista laptop. Wasnt too bad at all. Then now..i have 3GB of RAM on this laptop im on now. With Vista Premium on it. Seems fine. So it seems more like...if you have a rig...that has lets say...8Gb of RAM and 750GB HDD...wouldnt Vista seem "small" on a rig like that? So when Vista 1st came out and they said it was a resource hog...i always thought...it depends on the persons PC specs. If they got 16GB of RAM...there Vista is gonna feel like XP. Plus better if u ask me.
Anyway I've just slapped myself on the wrist as we seem to have hijacked ihatewin7's thread. 
Lets get back on topic
Lets get back on topic
i don't mind hate the OS or not, but did you all ever think without the less of program or error, the program can't be improve.
like if we fall, of course we don't wanna fall into the same hole.
nobody perfect, and also the OS, have some missing or error. but let get the microsoft to improve and increase it. we just can suggest.
however if hate the win7, so don't use it. can use the other OS, depend on what you're need.
like if we fall, of course we don't wanna fall into the same hole.
nobody perfect, and also the OS, have some missing or error. but let get the microsoft to improve and increase it. we just can suggest.
however if hate the win7, so don't use it. can use the other OS, depend on what you're need.
Here's my 2 cents worth; I kind of had similar issues with various apps then I was informed to ensure that I only use apps designed for 64 bit Win7... So I did and ever since my PC with Win 7 Pro works nice'n'fast with many apps open and running at the same time...Some I have to run in Administrator mode, but all is ok.
Just thought I'd share this with you 'cos you're also on x64. Hope it works out for you buddy 'cos I know just how frustrating these situations can be....
Just thought I'd share this with you 'cos you're also on x64. Hope it works out for you buddy 'cos I know just how frustrating these situations can be....
i think it'll work out for him when he gets it all right. Then he'll know Windows 7 isnt all THAT bad. Its actually pretty good. He just needs to get everything right.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by MacGyvr I think it's obvious that there is something corrupted in this installation. Trying to fix it only prolongs the agony and frustration. I think the OP should wipe, format and reinstall Win 7, then install any missing drivers, followed by Firefox. At that point, he should STOP and evaluate the performance of the system before continuing to install ANY additional software.
Ask us if you want a detailed guide on how to do it.
Test your memory for 5-6 passes with memtest86 bootable CD, then the HD using maker's full diag/repair CD scan: http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=287
Have you tried IE8 in Win7? They finally perfected it with better features IMO than any other browsers, and it is rock solid stable with no issues in 100+ installs here. Perhaps you could hold off on another browser in your reinstall until you give IE a good run. Look at all the ways you can sort your History to get back to places you want.
Wiping your HD is an important first step as it will overwrite any infected or conflicting code. Use tutorial linked: SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation
The installer is mostly driver-complete with newer arriving quickly via optional Windows Updates. Any drivers then missing in Device Manager can be found on the Support Downloads webpage for your computer or device model. I would not change any drivers given by installer/updates unless performance dictates, then start with display, chipset.
I install programs slowly over time to gauge performance after each. I don't let any programs write themselves into msconfig>Startup except AV (lightweight free MS Security Essentials or Avast 5) and gadgets - any others freeload on CPU/RAM and can spy on you.
When it is finished, clean and order your HD perfectly with state-of-the-art CCleaner and Auslogics Disk and Registry defraggers monthly.
If performance probs persist, google text and ID# of repeat errors in Event Viewer>Admin View to learn how others solved them. Click through WEI score at Computer>Properties to resolve any cued issues on Advanced Tools page, work through errors in the Performance log found there, and Generate A System Health Report. Monitor processes working at idle closely.
Have you tried IE8 in Win7? They finally perfected it with better features IMO than any other browsers, and it is rock solid stable with no issues in 100+ installs here. Perhaps you could hold off on another browser in your reinstall until you give IE a good run. Look at all the ways you can sort your History to get back to places you want.
Wiping your HD is an important first step as it will overwrite any infected or conflicting code. Use tutorial linked: SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation
The installer is mostly driver-complete with newer arriving quickly via optional Windows Updates. Any drivers then missing in Device Manager can be found on the Support Downloads webpage for your computer or device model. I would not change any drivers given by installer/updates unless performance dictates, then start with display, chipset.
I install programs slowly over time to gauge performance after each. I don't let any programs write themselves into msconfig>Startup except AV (lightweight free MS Security Essentials or Avast 5) and gadgets - any others freeload on CPU/RAM and can spy on you.
When it is finished, clean and order your HD perfectly with state-of-the-art CCleaner and Auslogics Disk and Registry defraggers monthly.
If performance probs persist, google text and ID# of repeat errors in Event Viewer>Admin View to learn how others solved them. Click through WEI score at Computer>Properties to resolve any cued issues on Advanced Tools page, work through errors in the Performance log found there, and Generate A System Health Report. Monitor processes working at idle closely.
Very interesting stuff guys, thanks for your advice. Ok. Well I agree with the people who have recommended a clean install and I am heading that way tonight. I think the MSE advice I will also take. Sophos maybe the cause as may firefox. Who knows.
Let us know how it goes!
can i just say that i have been using firefox withe windows 7 since last october and have had only one issue that was rectified ,it certainly did not wreck my os and i use around a dozen plugins and addons with firefox .in the last couple of months i upgraded my pc to x64 and have not had one issue with firefox ,
im sure there are loads of members here use firefox with win 7 and no issues!
id suggest re installing firefox when you have a clean install and a system restore point to go back to if issue and see how it performs then.
im sure there are loads of members here use firefox with win 7 and no issues!
id suggest re installing firefox when you have a clean install and a system restore point to go back to if issue and see how it performs then.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by boohbah can i just say that i have been using firefox withe windows 7 since last october and have had only one issue that was rectified ,it certainly did not wreck my os and i use around a dozen plugins and addons with firefox .in the last couple of months i upgraded my pc to x64 and have not had one issue with firefox ,
im sure there are loads of members here use firefox with win 7 and no issues!
id suggest re installing firefox when you have a clean install and a system restore point to go back to if issue and see how it performs then.
im sure there are loads of members here use firefox with win 7 and no issues!
id suggest re installing firefox when you have a clean install and a system restore point to go back to if issue and see how it performs then.
I used Firefox with Win 7 for a few weeks. Never saw a performance problem, but one of my add-ons wasn't compatible with 7, so I ditched Firefox. It's still on my machine, and my wife uses it as her default browser.
For the life of me, I can't even remember what add-on it was that wasn't compatible.
For the life of me, I can't even remember what add-on it was that wasn't compatible.
ihatewin7 good day to you. Just some little rules I go by. After your clean install and adding MSE and installing updates and so far every thing is working properly Stop. Make a list of programs you need and a list of programs that you want. Start with the NEED first. Take baby steps. Add a program and reboot. Check it out for a while and if everything is still to your liking do another one. Make a restore point. It takes a little longer but you have had your share of problems. If you do install a program that gives your computer problems you will know which one it is. When your done check msconfig/start up and choose which programs you want at bootup. If you and your computer are happy at that time defrag. Lastly give yourself and Windows 7 a little time to get to know each other. Note! A bunch of add ons to any browser has been known to cause problems for many people and can be a security risk.
Spot on advice, Layback Bear.
Lastly give yourself and Windows 7 a little time to get to know each other.
I have been using 7 sense it was beta. That is the best advice I have heard.
Nice Layback Bear.
I have been using 7 sense it was beta. That is the best advice I have heard.
Nice Layback Bear.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by dolittle Lastly give yourself and Windows 7 a little time to get to know each other.
Looking forward to hearing how this clean install goes. I've been nothing but happy with Win7. I use 64-bit at home and 32-bit at work. Both are very solid, I run things like Paint.net, Office, Trend AV, Firefox, a messenger, Filezilla, vmware player, etc....all on a daily basis and have next to no issues whatsoever.
There are only a couple of things that I can not do in 7 that I could do in XP.
Play Scarface - The Game (doesn't work in 7) and using Win 7 64-bit to record/edit/author video (ONLY because some of my software is not supported on 64-bit, regardless of Windows version Xp or 7).
So beyond that, i have not had 7 crash, slow down, stutter, grumble, cry or even whimper about anything I have thrown at it, other than when I do something stupid and cause it to crash.
I agree with everyone else,, you have a Major Messed up Factory install, and probably some not so good/corrupted software.
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Also, others,,, please keep in mind that when XP first came out, people were luck to ahve 128M of ram in thier systems, and XP ran like garbage. Xp didn't start running good till you hit 256M+ and 512M was awesome. Now, you need at least 1G for XP, and no less than 2G for 7, on Win 7, 3G to 4G is definitely what you want.
Anyway, I digress..
Play Scarface - The Game (doesn't work in 7) and using Win 7 64-bit to record/edit/author video (ONLY because some of my software is not supported on 64-bit, regardless of Windows version Xp or 7).
So beyond that, i have not had 7 crash, slow down, stutter, grumble, cry or even whimper about anything I have thrown at it, other than when I do something stupid and cause it to crash.
I agree with everyone else,, you have a Major Messed up Factory install, and probably some not so good/corrupted software.
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Also, others,,, please keep in mind that when XP first came out, people were luck to ahve 128M of ram in thier systems, and XP ran like garbage. Xp didn't start running good till you hit 256M+ and 512M was awesome. Now, you need at least 1G for XP, and no less than 2G for 7, on Win 7, 3G to 4G is definitely what you want.
Anyway, I digress..
�� Quote: Originally Posted by MacGyvr I think it's obvious that there is something corrupted in this installation. Trying to fix it only prolongs the agony and frustration. I think the OP should wipe, format and reinstall Win 7, then install any missing drivers, followed by Firefox. At that point, he should STOP and evaluate the performance of the system before continuing to install ANY additional software.
That was excellent advice.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear ihatewin7 good day to you. Just some little rules I go by. After your clean install and adding MSE and installing updates and so far every thing is working properly Stop. Make a list of programs you need and a list of programs that you want. Start with the NEED first. Take baby steps. Add a program and reboot. Check it out for a while and if everything is still to your liking do another one. Make a restore point. It takes a little longer but you have had your share of problems. If you do install a program that gives your computer problems you will know which one it is. When your done check msconfig/start up and choose which programs you want at bootup. If you and your computer are happy at that time defrag. Lastly give yourself and Windows 7 a little time to get to know each other. Note! A bunch of add ons to any browser has been known to cause problems for many people and can be a security risk.
any update from OP , im sure as so many people responded to this thread they would like to know how things have gone.
Well I'm back looking to see how things went, maybe tomorrow. Thanks you all for the little pat on the back.
Ok so i did reinstall windows. Ditched Firefox and started using Chrome. Much much better. I also ditched Sophos upon recommendations here and started using MSE. So far no freezes. Oh and something new, i forgot completely how to reformat my drive in DOS so I threw in the WIN7 disk to see what happens. And it reinstalls and saves all your old files to a folder called Windows Old. Um wow. So although I backed everything up it wasn't necessary this time round. So happily just dragging the files that I wanted to keep to the new libraries. So that was a win.
I know I've said it before but thank you again.
I know I've said it before but thank you again.
As you forgot the tutorial I posted to wipe the HD before reinstall, here are the rest of the steps which can give you a perfect install if you want one:
�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker Enjoy Windows 7!
�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker Wiping your HD is an important first step as it will overwrite any infected or conflicting code. Use tutorial linked: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/91339-ssd-hdd-optimize-windows-reinstallation.html
The installer is mostly driver-complete with newer arriving quickly via optional Windows Updates. Any drivers then missing in Device Manager can be found on the Support Downloads webpage for your computer or device model. I would not change any drivers given by installer/updates unless performance dictates, then start with display, chipset.
I install programs slowly over time to gauge performance after each. I don't let any programs write themselves into msconfig>Startup except AV (lightweight free MS Security Essentials or Avast 5) and gadgets - any others freeload on CPU/RAM and can spy on you.
When it is finished, clean and order your HD perfectly with state-of-the-art CCleaner and Auslogics Disk and Registry defraggers monthly.
If performance probs persist, google text and ID# of repeat errors in Event Viewer>Admin View to learn how others solved them. Click through WEI score at Computer>Properties to resolve any cued issues on Advanced Tools page, work through errors in the Performance log found there, and Generate A System Health Report. Monitor processes working at idle closely.
The installer is mostly driver-complete with newer arriving quickly via optional Windows Updates. Any drivers then missing in Device Manager can be found on the Support Downloads webpage for your computer or device model. I would not change any drivers given by installer/updates unless performance dictates, then start with display, chipset.
I install programs slowly over time to gauge performance after each. I don't let any programs write themselves into msconfig>Startup except AV (lightweight free MS Security Essentials or Avast 5) and gadgets - any others freeload on CPU/RAM and can spy on you.
When it is finished, clean and order your HD perfectly with state-of-the-art CCleaner and Auslogics Disk and Registry defraggers monthly.
If performance probs persist, google text and ID# of repeat errors in Event Viewer>Admin View to learn how others solved them. Click through WEI score at Computer>Properties to resolve any cued issues on Advanced Tools page, work through errors in the Performance log found there, and Generate A System Health Report. Monitor processes working at idle closely.
I'm pleased to hear your issue is resolved, does this mean you will be wanting to change your name!
how about- iusedtohatewindows7
how about- iusedtohatewindows7
Nice to see you running windows 7 happily now. On a side note, youve been able to format within the windows installer since at least xp (not sure about 2000 but possibly).
So I take it you originally did an upgrade install from XP? I dont really recommend that path as it can cause all sorts of issues.
After installing windows I usually install Recuva (file undelete) and ccleaner (crap cleaner) from piriform.com. If you do run ccleaner, make sure you go through its options and dont just run it blindly. And dont touch its registry "fixer" for now (even though I use it). By default the program will remove browser history, so go through the options and check to see if you want to keep such items.
So I take it you originally did an upgrade install from XP? I dont really recommend that path as it can cause all sorts of issues.
After installing windows I usually install Recuva (file undelete) and ccleaner (crap cleaner) from piriform.com. If you do run ccleaner, make sure you go through its options and dont just run it blindly. And dont touch its registry "fixer" for now (even though I use it). By default the program will remove browser history, so go through the options and check to see if you want to keep such items.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by ihatewin7 Ok so i did reinstall windows. Ditched Firefox and started using Chrome. Much much better. I also ditched Sophos upon recommendations here and started using MSE. So far no freezes. Oh and something new, i forgot completely how to reformat my drive in DOS so I threw in the WIN7 disk to see what happens. And it reinstalls and saves all your old files to a folder called Windows Old. Um wow. So although I backed everything up it wasn't necessary this time round. So happily just dragging the files that I wanted to keep to the new libraries. So that was a win.
I know I've said it before but thank you again.
I know I've said it before but thank you again.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by swarfega Nice to see you running windows 7 happily now. On a side note, youve been able to format within the windows installer since at least xp (not sure about 2000 but possibly).
So I take it you originally did an upgrade install from XP? I dont really recommend that path as it can cause all sorts of issues.
After installing windows I usually install Recuva (file undelete) and ccleaner (crap cleaner) from piriform.com. If you do run ccleaner, make sure you go through its options and dont just run it blindly. And dont touch its registry "fixer" for now (even though I use it). By default the program will remove browser history, so go through the options and check to see if you want to keep such items.
So I take it you originally did an upgrade install from XP? I dont really recommend that path as it can cause all sorts of issues.
After installing windows I usually install Recuva (file undelete) and ccleaner (crap cleaner) from piriform.com. If you do run ccleaner, make sure you go through its options and dont just run it blindly. And dont touch its registry "fixer" for now (even though I use it). By default the program will remove browser history, so go through the options and check to see if you want to keep such items.
Just FYI - All of the NT based Operating systems from Microsoft have provided the ability to format during install - even the text based installers from NT 3.5 and NT4
Ah thanks for the reminder, so long ago....
�� Quote: Originally Posted by boohbah I'm pleased to hear your issue is resolved, does this mean you will be wanting to change your name!
how about- iusedtohatewindows7
how about- iusedtohatewindows7
What would you like your user name to be?
Brink, you are a trip
Your'e like a mad scientist rubbing your hands together.
Your'e like a mad scientist rubbing your hands together. 
�� Quote: Originally Posted by ihatewin7 Ok so i did reinstall windows. Ditched Firefox and started using Chrome. Much much better. I also ditched Sophos upon recommendations here and started using MSE. So far no freezes. Oh and something new, i forgot completely how to reformat my drive in DOS so I threw in the WIN7 disk to see what happens. And it reinstalls and saves all your old files to a folder called Windows Old. Um wow. So although I backed everything up it wasn't necessary this time round. So happily just dragging the files that I wanted to keep to the new libraries. So that was a win.
I know I've said it before but thank you again.
I know I've said it before but thank you again.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by Brink What would you like your user name to be?
Fantastic thread. This shows how a Win 7 hater becomes Win 7 lover
of course can change the name, just say to the admin.
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