Thứ Năm, 30 tháng 6, 2016

Setup hangs after automatic restart part 1


amoretam

Hello.
I have good installation disk because I have use it a lot before and recently.
I am trying to install win7 x64 on my sistem partition, (recently wiped and formatted) but everytime setup finishes with the first part of the installation it automatically restarts but it gets stuck when the "press any key to boot from dvd" message e tridappears, (If I don't press any key).
If I press any key it wil start the installation over again.

What is this??

I tried ejecting the cd and boot from the harddrive but the screen will remain black with blinking cursor.

THANKS A LOT



Lemur

Try setting HD as first to boot in BIOS setup. Start the DVD by using one-time BIOS boot menu key given on first screen, or let it autostart now to continue installation when you power up.

Next, wipe the HD before trying reinstall: SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation

If you failed to back up data partitions before trying reinstall to System Partition, copy it out now using this method: Copy & Paste - in Windows Recovery Console

Or use free Partition Wizard bootable CD to wipe only the System Partition: Partition Wizard : Use the Bootable CD

amoretam

Good solution above. It's pretty weird that you're offered the option to bypass the optical drive boot, but it gets stuck.

Lemur

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Try setting HD as first to boot in BIOS setup. Start the DVD by using one-time BIOS boot menu key given on first screen, or let it autostart now to continue installation when you power up.

Next, wipe the HD before trying reinstall: SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation

If you failed to back up data partitions before trying reinstall to System Partition, copy it out now using this method: Copy & Paste - in Windows Recovery Console

Or use free Partition Wizard bootable CD to wipe only the System Partition: Partition Wizard : Use the Bootable CD
I wiped the system partition with acronis partition magic and formatted it.
I tried booting from the harddrive after choosing Hitachy in Bios boot order.

I also cannot wipe the disk completely because I have another partition with my Virtual Insts. Libraries. (Like 300gb's)

But, I don't quite understand this:
"Start the DVD by using one-time BIOS boot menu key given on first screen, or let it autostart now to continue installation when you power up".

What do you mean???

sorrry thanks

amoretam

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by amoretam View Post
But, I don't quite understand this:
"Start the DVD by using one-time BIOS boot menu key given on first screen, or let it autostart now to continue installation when you power up".
Getting the one-time boot menu is sort of like getting into safe mode. INSTEAD of tapping F8, you tap F12 when you first see anything on the monitor (NOT WINDOWS, but the manufacturer's info).

amoretam

When you set HD first to boot, trigger the DVD drive if necessary using the one-time BIOS boot menu given on first boot screen or in your mobo Manual. As I do not know Nvidia mobo given in your specs, I can't find it for you. But the DVD should autostart now for you when you power up anyway, to complete installation or if you wipe the partition again.

If not, try using the best Partition Manager compatible with WIn7 to wipe and format the partition, then mark Active before install: Partition Wizard : Use the Bootable CD

amoretam

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
When you set HD first to boot, trigger the DVD drive if necessary using the one-time BIOS boot menu given on first boot screen or in your mobo Manual. As I do not know Nvidia mobo given in your specs, I can't find it for you. But the DVD should autostart now for you when you power up anyway, to complete installation or if you wipe the partition again.

If not, try using the best Partition Manager compatible with WIn7 to wipe and format the partition, then mark Active before install: Partition Wizard : Use the Bootable CD
computer does nothing when I type F12.

Guest

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
BIOS Boot Menu key is normally ESC on Evga boards. See if that works.
I have installed windows 7 like 5 times with this cd and same hardware and same partition space before.
My mobo is an XFX nforce.
I have the manual but cannot find the BIOS boot menu thing.

I also have the latest BIOS downloaded from XFX support site.

I tried ESC, F2, F10, F8, F12, with Hitachy first in boot order but it goes to black screen and blinking cursor, from there I have to reset.

Guest

What has changed since that last time you installed?

Have you tried removing all but 2gb of RAM to try install?

I think you need to wipe the HD with a set of zeroes using a known compatible manager like free Partition Wizard bootable CD, then Format Primary NTFS and Modify>Mark as Active. This works sometimes in such cases.

Setting HD as first to boot in BIOS setup also works quite often, but you need to boot the DVD with the BIOS one-time Boot Menu key unless it will autostart on empty HD.

Next test your RAM for 5-6 passes with memtest86,

then test HD using maker's diag/repair full CD scan. http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=287

Guest

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
What has changed since that last time you installed?

Have you tried removing all but 2gb of RAM to try install?

I think you need to wipe the HD with a set of zeroes using a known compatible manager like free Partition Wizard bootable CD, then Format Primary NTFS and Modify>Mark as Active. This works sometimes in such cases.

Setting HD as first to boot in BIOS setup also works quite often, but you need to boot the DVD with the BIOS one-time Boot Menu key unless it will autostart on empty HD.

Next test your RAM for 5-6 passes with memtest86,

then test HD using maker's diag/repair full CD scan. Hard Drive Diagnostics Tools and Utilities (Storage) - TACKtech Corp.
Nothing has changed, I just reinstall windows because I could not rate my computer, (WEI score).
So I wiped partition with a set of zeroes with partition magic, formatted as ntfs and, made it active and tried reinstalling.
Currently i am using 2gb's of memory from 8'gb's.
I did the memory test thing, no errors.
I disconnected 2nd harddrive.
And i used hitachy diagnostic tools to test HD, no errors.

I am setting HD as first boot in BIOS, but I still do not understand when you talk about the "boot the DVD with the BIOS one-time Boot Menu key".

Thanks for your help...
I ll go to sleep now, see you tomorrow, hopefully we'll get thi work.

madtownidiot

I don't think Partition Magic is compatible with Win7. Please use free Partition Wizard bootable CD to Wipe partition, Format Primary NTFS and Modify>Set to Active.

This failure may be related to the failure of WEI to calculate your score. It would be good to know what version BIOS you are running now. Can you look in BIOS setup to see?

While in BIOS setup, reset the CMOS: Clear CMOS - 3 Ways to Clear the CMOS - Reset BIOS

Then set the SATA controller to AHCI to try install.

Once you wipe the HD, the Win7 DVD should autostart so you can try setting the HD as first to boot which often overcomes the restart hang.



Bare Foot Kid

At the 1st restart, the install disk is no longer necessary and can be ejected.

amoretam

Hello amoretam.



As Greg is pointing out Partition Magic is probably the issue; have a look at Option Three in this tutorial at the link below to see how to use the free Partition Wizard bootable CD to do a partition specific wipe of the target partition so that Windows will install to that space; or if there's nothing on the entire Hard Disk Drive (HDD) you need to save have a look at the info below for an easier method.

Partition Wizard : Use the Bootable CD
information�� Information

After you have made backups of everything you care to save and you want to do a real wipe "secure erase" to the Hard Disk Drive (HDD) have a look at this tutorial at the link below, it over-writes everything, all the old Windows code including the old Windows drivers, everything all data, giving you the best possible space to install Windows 7 to; it goes hand-in-hand with a clean install.

SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation

How to Do a Clean Installation with Windows 7



Bare Foot Kid

Hi,
Now I remember there is something that has changed.
At the beginning, when I first tried to install windows, PC would just freeze on several points during the installation process (it would even pass the automatic reboot).
Then I used Hiren's boot 10.4 (which I have used before) to wipe partition, then took memory out of slots, disconnected 2nd HDD, etc, until I find that after post the screen would go black with YoYo readout .

I look in the internet and found out a solution for this so-called YoYo virus which resides in the MBR, so I did this:

1 Boot with Hiren's Boot CD
2 Run Ranish Partition Manager
3 Change MBR Executable code: to Standard IPL
4 Save and Reboot

After that the YoYo readout dissapeared but then this thread started.

Do you think MBR has anything to do with this??

How cou back up all my 300gb of libraries before wiping the HDD?

You wrote this:
"Once you wipe the HD, the Win7 DVD should autostart so you can try setting the HD as first to boot which often overcomes the restart hang."
I don't understand, how could the dvd autostart if I set the HD as first to boot in BIOS??

Why is that wiping just the system partition does not work, why wiping the whole HDD.?

Could a create a Partition Wizard bootable USB flash?? I don't have acess to my dvd drive on the computer..

THANKS A LOT

EDIT:

Sorry, the program I am using is Acronis Disk Director Suite from the Hiren's 10.4 bootable cd, not Partition Magic.

amoretam

Hello again.



I'm sure you could use this same method to make a bootable Partition Wizard USB stick.


USB Windows 7 Installation Key Drive - Create

amoretam

Sometimes on a wiped HD the installer will autostart. PW which uses a CD will always autostart. But you still need to find out what key is used to bring up the BIOS Boot Menu at boot. If not, then set the DVD drive first to Boot in BIOS as necessary.

If wiping the partition does not help, I would move my files off the HD to wipe the entire HD with one set of zeroes, create and format an install partition, mark it Active.

Did you find out what version BIOS you are running? On a board that old this may be the problem. Unzip the latest BIOS version from mobo maker's Support Downloads website so you can read the ReadMe to see what issues are handled. There may be multiple issues resolved in several updates needed, either needing install sequentially or of latest version - it will inform you.

madtownidiot

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Sometimes on a wiped HD the installer will autostart. PW which uses a CD will always autostart. But you still need to find out what key is used to bring up the BIOS Boot Menu at boot. If not, then set the DVD drive first to Boot in BIOS as necessary.

If wiping the partition does not help, I would move my files off the HD to wipe the entire HD with one set of zeroes, create and format an install partition, mark it Active.

Did you find out what version BIOS you are running? On a board that old this may be the problem. Unzip the latest BIOS version from mobo maker's Support Downloads website so you can read the ReadMe to see what issues are handled. There may be multiple issues resolved in several updates needed, either needing install sequentially or of latest version - it will inform you.
I have BIOS version 1.4B1, it's the latest, I flashed it about a month ago.

I will now proceed with creating a booable Partition Wizard Usb flash to wipe and create partition.
I personally don't think that using partition wizard is going to make a difference, because I've been using Acronis Disk Director Suite since I built this computer to format my partition and it all worked fine before.
But, I am going to try this anyway.

There is no manual with the latest bios, i cannot find it, and have no idea where to find the key for the ONE TIME BOOT MENU.

Thanks, i'm coming back right away...

Guest

I was pressing F11 while booting and it brought me directly to a menu where I can choose what device to boot from!

Is that the ONE TIME BIOS BOOT MENU you talking about???
If yes, isn't it the same as choosing the device order in the bios??
Thanks

Guest

It is, but if you have the installer stalling out at restart then having HD as first to boot may solve this.

There are dozens of causes of install problems and this is but one of the several we've suggested to try which seem to apply to your hang problem.

What is the issue requiring USB flash stick to be used for PW CD? Perhaps you should try install using flash stick by same method or another: http://dottech.org/featured/9157 The method that always works for me is Ultra ISO trial version: load ISO, select Write Image on Bootable tab, click Format before Write.

Guest

I've seen this problem before, usually in older systems. The best way to install is by USB flash drive because some older DVD drives especially IDE DVD ROMs, can't read from a DVD fast enough. Failing that, when you reach the first restart point, it's no longer necessary for the install disk to be present.. I always remove before POST on the restart.

amoretam

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
It is, but if you have the installer stalling out at restart then having HD as first to boot may solve this.

There are dozens of causes of install problems and this is but one of the several we've suggested to try which seem to apply to your hang problem.

What is the issue requiring USB flash stick to be used for PW CD? Perhaps you should try install using flash stick by same method or another: How to: install Windows (any version from XP to Win7) from a USB/flash drive | Featured | dotTech The method that always works for me is Ultra ISO trial version: load ISO, select Write Image on Bootable tab, click Format before Write.
sorry, i've taken so much time because i cannot find a way to create a bootable usb flash with partition wizard,.
I have no floppy disk or dvd/cd rom available.
I tried with the Windows 7 USB DVD Download Tool and the HP drive key boot utility.

any ideas?



amoretam

ok, I created the PW bootable usbflash.
Wiped partition, formatted, primary and active.
Installation hanged in the same place...

Thanks

EDIT:

Now I am wiping the whole HDD

amoretam

Are you trying install from flash stick now?

I would either try booting the DVD via F11 key while HD is set as first to boot, or try flash stick install.

Try also removing the DVD or flash at reboot where it hangs.

Wiping the entire HD may help. That can be done from installer using tutorial linked earlier btw.

amoretam

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Are you trying install from flash stick now?

I would either try booting the DVD via F11 key while HD is set as first to boot, or try flash stick install.

Try also removing the DVD or flash at reboot where it hangs.

Wiping the entire HD may help. That can be done from installer using tutorial linked earlier btw.
Nop, I am using usb bootable Partition wizard now to wipe the second partition on my HDD, Fisrt partition is already wiped.

I have all day wiping ...there's one hour left for it to finish wiping.
After that I am going to proceed installation.

I'llkeep you posted.
Thanks

amoretam

You want to wipe the entire HD using the Disk tab on PW CD. Wiping each partition may not clear the full partition table to root out your problem.

There is a shorter way to do that. Now that you can boot the DVD using F11 Bios Boot Menu key which took so long to find, use the Diskpart Commands given in tutorial but use "Clean" instead of "Clean All' which is a short wipe that gets the partition table. SSD - HDD Optimize for Windows Reinstallation - Windows 7 Forums.URL

Then in the section to Create Partition, add these commands after Create Partition Primary:

Select partition 1
Format
Active
Exit

Then try your install from booted Win7 DVD.

Bare Foot Kid

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
You want to wipe the entire HD using the Disk tab on PW CD. Wiping each partition may not clear the full partition table to root out your problem.

There is a shorter way to do that. Now that you can boot the DVD using F11 Bios Boot Menu key which took so long to find, use the Diskpart Commands given in tutorial but use "Clean" instead of "Clean All' which is a short wipe that gets the partition table. SSD - HDD Optimize for Windows Reinstallation - Windows 7 Forums.URL

Then in the section to Create Partition, add these commands after Create Partition Primary:

Select partition 1
Format
Active
Exit

Then try your install from booted Win7 DVD.
I can't beleive it, after wating all day for it to be wiped!

I wiped the two partitions, how come is not the same?

Guest

Go ahead and try it.

I was not aware the tutorial on Partition Wizard only gives the option to wipe Partition and not to wipe the whole HD on Disk tab.

If it doesn't work, then the Clean command in Diskpart is very fast. That should wipe the Partition Table.

Guest

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Go ahead and try it.

I was not aware the tutorial on Partition Wizard only gives the option to wipe Partition and not to wipe the whole HD on Disk tab.

If it doesn't work, then the Clean command in Diskpart is very fast. That should wipe the Partition Table.
Well dear people from this Forum!
This case has been succesfully solved.
Thanks a lot Mr. Gregrocker for your support and patience.
I did what you said with Diskpart and the installation finally recognize the Hdd.

I learn a lot in this journey too.

Thanks

Guest

Glad it worked. Your partition table was likely corrupted.

I am beginning to wonder whether the DISKPART "Clean All" command needs to be run on every reinstall, if there is no concern about infection and the partition table is what is really needed to be zeroed. Perhaps "Clean" is enough rather than forcing users to wait all day for today-sized drives to be zeroed.

Others opinions are requested.

Guest

"Clean" is nothing more than a format.



This from this tutoriak from Brink

Disk - Clean and Clean All with Diskpart Command



Information
This will show you how to use the clean command on a selected disk to delete all of it's MBR or GPT partitions, volumes, and any hidden sector information on MBR disks is overwritten. The data on the HDD is not written over using the clean command. It is only marked as being deleted and can be written over when new data is written/saved to the HDD next.



Bare Foot Kid

From A Description of the Diskpart Command-Line Utility

Quote:
clean [all]

Use the clean command to remove partition or volume formatting from the current in-focus disk by zeroing sectors. By default, only the MBR or GPT partitioning information and any hidden sector information on MBR disks is overwritten. If you specify the all parameter, each and every sector can be zeroed, and all data that is contained on the drive can be deleted.




amoretam

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
From A Description of the Diskpart Command-Line Utility

Quote:
clean [all]

Use the clean command to remove partition or volume formatting from the current in-focus disk by zeroing sectors. By default, only the MBR or GPT partitioning information and any hidden sector information on MBR disks is overwritten. If you specify the all parameter, each and every sector can be zeroed, and all data that is contained on the drive can be deleted.clean [all]


OK, that is what I was wondering from Brink's tutorial but that still leaves a lot that could be left on the HDD, a rather virulent virus comes to mind, right?

I do agree that some may get itchy waiting for a "clean all" on a big HDD but there are dues that have to be paid if they want to get something sorted.

amoretam

If there is hint of infection, or Ubuntu was on the HD, or any other kind of mess then I go for Clean All.

But after zeroing every HD on reinstall for years, I finally listened to others telling me this is overkill and possibly aging the drives. Instead I spend the time Disk Checking, running HD maker's diag/repair scan, then during install: delete and format.

What do others think?

amoretam

hey Gregrocker how you doing??

My system is doing great but i am having this annoying booting problem with a "20" readout on the debug led.
I looked in my mobo's manual and it says it's something related to sleep mode.So, I suspect that Acpi has something to do with it.

My questions are:

Can I disable Acpi in the Bios and have no problems later?

If I disable Acpi, do I need to reinstall the OS?

If I disable Acpi, would that have an impact on sharing IRQ's?

Do I need to share IRQ's?

Thanks, and sorry for deviating the subject.

amoretam

What is the ACPI sleep mode setting in BIOS now? Try another.

Test also that Sleep is working in Power Options while trying each setting.

Guest

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
What is the ACPI sleep mode setting in BIOS now? Try another.

Test also that Sleep is working in Power Options while trying each setting.
Please, if you could just answer my questions I would appreciate it.

I have tried everything (I think) on the BIOS, this is an old booting problem I've been having for months, and disabling Acpi is the only thing I have not tried.

In case you want to check out: strange booting problem

replacing my xfx nforce sli 750i mobo: Advices

These are the threads where I receive all type of recommendations for my booting problem, but I was never able to fix it.

Nowadays I have to go through the same proccess described in the first posted thread to turn on my computer succesfully.

THANKS

Guest

I wouldn't have asked you to check the ACPI sleep setting in your BIOS if it wouldn't possibly help your ACPI sleep error issue.

BIOS Settings: S1 or S3 for Hybrid Sleep?

Guest

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
I wouldn't have asked you to check the ACPI sleep setting in your BIOS if it wouldn't possibly help your ACPI sleep error issue.

BIOS Settings: S1 or S3 for Hybrid Sleep?
I don't use nothing that has to do with sleep,hibernation, suspend.
everything is disabled in power options.
...and I have tried S1 and S3. ...The only options available in Bios.
thanks

Guest

Fix your sleep and you may fix the ACPI problem. That's how I'd go about it.

Guest

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Fix your sleep and you may fix the ACPI problem. That's how I'd go about it.
ButI have nothing to do with sleep enabled,
so there is nothing to fix??

amoretam

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by amoretam View Post
Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Fix your sleep and you may fix the ACPI problem. That's how I'd go about it.
ButI have nothing to do with sleep enabled,
so there is nothing to fix??
You said that your BIOS error code was related to sleep. Rather than disabiling ACPI, I would first troubleshoot sleep until it works by finding the correct ACPI sleep setting, troubleshooting display driver if necessary, power mgmt issues, etc. This is what I would do to try to resolve the code or learn more about it. If you want to disable ACPI, go ahead.

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by amoretam View Post
My system is doing great but i am having this annoying booting problem with a "20" readout on the debug led.
I looked in my mobo's manual and it says it's something related to sleep mode.So, I suspect that Acpi has something to do with it.




Guest

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by amoretam View Post
Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Fix your sleep and you may fix the ACPI problem. That's how I'd go about it.
ButI have nothing to do with sleep enabled,
so there is nothing to fix??
You said that your BIOS error code was related to sleep. Rather than disabiling ACPI, I would first troubleshoot sleep until it works by finding the correct ACPI sleep setting, troubleshooting display driver if necessary, power mgmt issues, etc. This is what I would do to try to resolve the code or learn more about it. If you want to disable ACPI, go ahead.

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by amoretam View Post
My system is doing great but i am having this annoying booting problem with a "20" readout on the debug led.
I looked in my mobo's manual and it says it's something related to sleep mode.So, I suspect that Acpi has something to do with it.
ok, but if I disable Acpi windows will not boot.
And I read that if I disable Acpi I will not be able to reinstall Windows because it cannot be installed without it.

What do you think??

Thanks

Guest

I told you what I would do several times now.

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