winfuture.de publish an image about WINDOWS7 SP1... Is possible microsoft release the system with an SP ??? the RC and betas is soo good, inst an bad idea to have an system with all updates!!!
http://www.baboo.com.br/absolutenm/a..._7_sp1_big.jpg
http://www.baboo.com.br/absolutenm/a..._7_sp1_big.jpg
I've heard about this, but why do they need to block the compiled date in the build number. 
Why would there be an SP already? Surely Microsoft would just compile a build with the included updates/changes 
Without the need for adding the SP1 tag
Without the need for adding the SP1 tag
It's absurd, one build after 7137? BS
Makes no sense to have a release that already has a service pack added to it.
Come on gang. . .this is just a gag (has to be).
Must be. Or another 7106 
I've been hearing about this a bit. I think it's possible that MS is already working on SP1...especially seeing as how they have stated over and over that the RC is feature complete. The SP could be additional features that they have come up with since they froze the features.
I've heard about it, too. However, it makes perfects sense to me:
As I understand it, the path to RTM from RC is one of a feature lock-down with only performance tweaks and bug squashes going forward. Ergo, feature additions and enhancements would be sidetracked to a potential SP1 release.
As I understand it, the path to RTM from RC is one of a feature lock-down with only performance tweaks and bug squashes going forward. Ergo, feature additions and enhancements would be sidetracked to a potential SP1 release.
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winfuture.de publish an image about WINDOWS7 SP1... Is possible microsoft release the system with an SP ??? the RC and betas is soo good, inst an bad idea to have an system with all updates!!!
http://www.baboo.com.br/absolutenm/a..._7_sp1_big.jpg
http://www.baboo.com.br/absolutenm/a..._7_sp1_big.jpg
C'mon dude, surely you don't need to ask this question?
They are just testing!
I could imagine the SP1 being released soon after the RTM, main reason being is that most companies and IT Professionals will hold off purchasing Windows 7 until it has it's first service pack, as it has been with XP and Vista.
So it only makes sense that Microsoft will want to release it as soon as possible, even if it's just a ploy to sell more copies rather then adressing any major issues or adding any extra features, which IMO is very unlikely.
So it only makes sense that Microsoft will want to release it as soon as possible, even if it's just a ploy to sell more copies rather then adressing any major issues or adding any extra features, which IMO is very unlikely.
wguimb had said that the internal build which is in progress is 7141 .So , he might comment on this build properly. Where is SoLoR ?
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I could imagine the SP1 being released soon after the RTM, main reason being is that most companies and IT Professionals will hold off purchasing Windows 7 until it has it's first service pack, as it has been with XP and Vista.
So it only makes sense that Microsoft will want to release it as soon as possible, even if it's just a ploy to sell more copies rather then adressing any major issues or adding any extra features, which IMO is very unlikely.
So it only makes sense that Microsoft will want to release it as soon as possible, even if it's just a ploy to sell more copies rather then adressing any major issues or adding any extra features, which IMO is very unlikely.
That said i think they should be fired for waiting for SP1 anyways, i think 7 is a VERY good OS and should be used off the shelves
�� Quote: Originally Posted by SeVeNrOxS wguimb had said that the internal build which is in progress is 7141 .So , he might comment on this build properly. Where is SoLoR ?
�� Quote: Originally Posted by SoLoR yes, 7141 is done, today (29th) probably 7142.
damn...already. didnt 713x just pop up like yesterday?
�� Quote: Originally Posted by holo88 damn...already. didnt 713x just pop up like yesterday?
�� Quote: Originally Posted by tw33k haven't played with 7137 properly yet and it's possible another leak is not too far away
�� Quote: Originally Posted by tw33k lol..seems like it
Remember, there was 7057....then 7068 and 7077 within days of each other if I remember correctly.
Then we all stressed through not having any leaks (other than 7106, I didn't go there) with speculation running to fever pitch before we all pounced onto 7100 a week before release.....
A Cynical view would be that Microsoft sanction controlled leaks....to keep the hype.....
�� Quote: Originally Posted by andych Actually it did only find its way into the wild yesterday.....but that is the way of the leak.....
Remember, there was 7057....then 7068 and 7077 within days of each other if I remember correctly.
Then we all stressed through not having any leaks (other than 7106, I didn't go there) with speculation running to fever pitch before we all pounced onto 7100 a week before release.....
A Cynical view would be that Microsoft sanction controlled leaks....to keep the hype.....
Remember, there was 7057....then 7068 and 7077 within days of each other if I remember correctly.
Then we all stressed through not having any leaks (other than 7106, I didn't go there) with speculation running to fever pitch before we all pounced onto 7100 a week before release.....
A Cynical view would be that Microsoft sanction controlled leaks....to keep the hype.....
However, I think the leaks are going to slow down now...maybe once every 3 weeks or a month.
I don't think we are going to see leaks within days of each other anymore. However, I think the next leak will be a major leap forward in the W7 development.
On the other hand, I could just be drunk.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by andych A Cynical view would be that Microsoft sanction controlled leaks....to keep the hype.....
makes sense, if ya think about it.
In this thread ,build 7138 shows it is SP1. What abt higher builds ? from 7138 ,will it be sp1 ??
Surely you cant have an SP1 for an OS that hasnt even been released yet.
IMHO, as i stated early on, what would be the point of releasing a service pack this early on? It would only prove to us (the consumers) that there are known bugs that they intend to release with the final RTM 
Surely the RTM (any bets on 7200?) will have had all the neccessary tweaks & fixes that would be present in any service pack? Would be logical to do that & lose the SP1 tag as that just proves it's flawed.
Surely the RTM (any bets on 7200?) will have had all the neccessary tweaks & fixes that would be present in any service pack? Would be logical to do that & lose the SP1 tag as that just proves it's flawed.
MS will release Windows 7 with known bugs just as they have with every version. As long as there are no show stoppers it will be released when MS gets below the desired amount, and that won't be 0.
wait & watch until next leak
Hi all
If you like conspiracy theories then surely it's in MS's interest to ALWAYS release buggy and crippled software even if it were technically feasable to release the product bug free.
If a product was 100% bug or cripple free what would be the incentive of people to install a new OS or "Upgrade" to obtain features (such as Remote Desktop) that should be built into the base product in any case.
Cheers
jimbo
If you like conspiracy theories then surely it's in MS's interest to ALWAYS release buggy and crippled software even if it were technically feasable to release the product bug free.
If a product was 100% bug or cripple free what would be the incentive of people to install a new OS or "Upgrade" to obtain features (such as Remote Desktop) that should be built into the base product in any case.
Cheers
jimbo
As I understand it, Win.7 was "feature-frozen" with the 7100 RC version. Given that, it makes perfect sense that there would be an SP1 branch which would include potential feature enhancements as well as new features that are proposed even before RTM is accomplished. Where else would they put these things? The whole point of RC to RTM development is squashing bugs and tweaking performance -- not feature enhancement.
sp1 screenshoots and information will be published soon
expecting rc2 sign -off today
expecting rc2 sign -off today
�� Quote: Originally Posted by alexlonca sp1 screenshoots and information will be published soon
expecting rc2 sign -off today
expecting rc2 sign -off today
Not only that. SP2 is under development and has been leaked ...
That's gr8 I'm not holding my breath at this early stage
�� Quote: Originally Posted by weh As I understand it, Win.7 was "feature-frozen" with the 7100 RC version. Given that, it makes perfect sense that there would be an SP1 branch which would include potential feature enhancements as well as new features that are proposed even before RTM is accomplished. Where else would they put these things? The whole point of RC to RTM development is squashing bugs and tweaking performance -- not feature enhancement.
I would agree with the statements that RC to RTM is all about squashing bugs. However, while MS is probably looking at some enhancements, they are not focused on an SP, yet. Look at the past SPs, how many of those actually brought new enhancements to Windows. Almost none. While XP SP2 was probably one of the biggest SPs in regards to changes to the OS, there was a specific reason for it. Otherwise, SPs are basically roll-ups of all the previous updates and some minor code tweaking.
New features are for new OSes. Remember, MS is on record stating that they want to return to a shorter development cycle. Expect new versions on a 3 year cycle, not 5-6 year like XP. That was out of the ordinary and unplanned.
PhreePhly
Now the first few parts makes sense to me all the way to the date but after that the rest is nothing. To me it looks like a build that someone in the company was working on and decided to add the rest after the date number.
�� Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 Hi all
If you like conspiracy theories then surely it's in MS's interest to ALWAYS release buggy and crippled software even if it were technically feasable to release the product bug free.
If a product was 100% bug or cripple free what would be the incentive of people to install a new OS or "Upgrade" to obtain features (such as Remote Desktop) that should be built into the base product in any case.
Cheers
jimbo
If you like conspiracy theories then surely it's in MS's interest to ALWAYS release buggy and crippled software even if it were technically feasable to release the product bug free.
If a product was 100% bug or cripple free what would be the incentive of people to install a new OS or "Upgrade" to obtain features (such as Remote Desktop) that should be built into the base product in any case.
Cheers
jimbo
Gary
�� Quote: Originally Posted by SeVeNrOxS on what basis are u saying this ?? Any Source ?
W7 will be released with SP5. 7138 will come with sp1, 7141 will come with sp2.
Saw this posted at Neowin. I just want those desktop icons.
Can't the "Service Pack" thing be added through a registry hack?
Wzor reports that RC2 is build 7200 and only TAP members have it. This is what he wrote (google tranlated):
And so, in each of these branches on 29 May, there have been significant changes, so yesterday we published a number of assemblies (winmain_win7ids_sp) branch and the actual assembly was: 7141.0.winmain_win7ids_sp.090528-xxxx,
but now we are seeing here this assembly: 7200.0.winmain_win7ids_sp.090529-xxxx, as they say feel the difference!
The same picture we have seen in other branches of assembly, right there it went even further, so the server (fbl) assembly line, we have witnessed the emergence of general assembly: 7225.0.090529-xxxx
In the near future we will be providing screenshots ...
So the next two weeks will be very busy at the event ;-)
And so, in each of these branches on 29 May, there have been significant changes, so yesterday we published a number of assemblies (winmain_win7ids_sp) branch and the actual assembly was: 7141.0.winmain_win7ids_sp.090528-xxxx,
but now we are seeing here this assembly: 7200.0.winmain_win7ids_sp.090529-xxxx, as they say feel the difference!
The same picture we have seen in other branches of assembly, right there it went even further, so the server (fbl) assembly line, we have witnessed the emergence of general assembly: 7225.0.090529-xxxx
In the near future we will be providing screenshots ...
So the next two weeks will be very busy at the event ;-)
where did u get zor.net news
, it is down since couple of days....
, it is down since couple of days.... so a 'whole' system may find it's way to the interweb? hell, im down wit dat!
lol
lol
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