Need New CPU! part 1

nJoyo

Hi, I've posted quite a few posts and I was very satisfied with the answers I received and they were reliable, today I'm asking you guys for a new CPU as my one is always at 100% very quick, for instance if I was to run a Safari, it would use most of the CPU (43% Average). I've given a quick specification of the hardware i currently have and would like to only upgrade the CPU, i would like a better CPU which is compatible with the motherboard I have.


My current Specifications are;

OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit Operating System
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 2.2 GHz
Motherboard
ASUS P5LP-LE
Memory
(1024MB DDR PC2-5300 X2) (1024 DDR PC2-6400 X2)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT (512MB DDR2 RAM)


Thanks guys for the help!

josef613

Look Here at compatible processors:
Motherboard Specifications, P5LP-LE (Leonite) - HP Customer Care (United States - English)
It'll be under processor upgrades

nJoyo

Can you give me a option which of the the CPU are the best for me, this has to be better then the current one i am using. Thanks!

sygnus21

�� Quote: Originally Posted by nJoyo

Can you give me a option which of the the CPU are the best for me, this has to be better then the current one i am using. Thanks!

That's going to be entirely dependent on how much money you're willing to spend! Only you can answer that.

Outside of that... this is the only chip in that list that appears to be better than what you currently have.... Core 2 Duo E6x00. I know nothing about the chip... Google is your friend.

�� Quote: Originally Posted by nJoyo

today I'm asking you guys for a new CPU as my one is always at 100% very quick, for instance if I was to run a Safari, it would use most of the CPU (43% Average).

You really should start looking at what programs or processes you have running. Replacing the processor isn't going to fix this if you don't deal with unnecessary programs or processes running in the background.

Check Task Manager (Ctrl-Alt-Delete, Task Manager) to see what's running your CPU....



Good luck.

DeaconFrost

I would go to your favorite PC shop (online or in person) and look at what is compatible and gather the pricing info....then make your choise. The compatibility is the easy part...budgeting might not be.

Anyway, you shouldn't be using half of your CPU power by running a web browser, unless it was getting hammered with a flash game or something like that. You also have to be the first person I've ever seen actually running, or much less even having Safari installed. Even Mac users don't use that crap!

josef613

�� Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21

Outside of that... this is the only chip in that list that appears to be better than what you currently have.... Core 2 Duo E6x00. I know nothing about the chip... Google is your friend.

The difference between the 4500 and a 6300, for example is that the e6300 has a higher FSB (1066 MHz), and intel virtualization.
You can find an e6300 on eBay for like 50 bucks. That's where I got mine.

sygnus21

Again, not to lose sight, replacing the CPU isn't necessarily going to get rid of the high processes running on the machine.

So.... outside of getting a better processor, you're not solving the real problem.... the high CPU usage.

My two cents.

josef613

Sygnus is right, don't be too hasty about buying a new processor, it is most likely a software problem.
Have you tried a different browser?
What are you doing when it is doing this?

Bill

�� Quote: Originally Posted by nJoyo

Hi, I've posted quite a few posts and I was very satisfied with the answers I received and they were reliable, today I'm asking you guys for a new CPU as my one is always at 100% very quick, for instance if I was to run a Safari, it would use most of the CPU (43% Average). I've given a quick specification of the hardware i currently have and would like to only upgrade the CPU, i would like a better CPU which is compatible with the motherboard I have.


My current Specifications are;

OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit Operating System
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 2.2 GHz
Motherboard
ASUS P5LP-LE
Memory
(1024MB DDR PC2-5300 X2) (1024 DDR PC2-6400 X2)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT (512MB DDR2 RAM)


Thanks guys for the help!

Is windows search still enabled?

Bill

sygnus21

Mine is enabled, still....

nJoyo

So, if not replacing the CPU what do you guys say i should do? give me some recommendations. I've checked and there's not much running it's just safari eating up all the usage. and what is system idle process that seems to be up mostly. and which is the better browser to use if safari is an issue, No FIREFOX had many issues with it in the past don't want that browser!

josef613

Well, what are you doing with your browser?

sygnus21

�� Quote: Originally Posted by nJoyo

So, if not replacing the CPU what do you guys say i should do? give me some recommendations.

I did � here Need New CPU! and here Need New CPU!

Check task manager and note what processes are running? Do you need them running? If not disable them, or remove the software if it's no longer needed.

nJoyo

Uhm....i usually just browse on the internet, research and sometimes play java script games.

josef613

So is it using 43% or whatever when you start safari and let it idle?

nJoyo

When Idle, it uses around 20% but when searching and surfing it drains loads...

nJoyo

and sometimes i play games e.g. sims 3 and it wont let me play properly and it will just keep lagging....O.o

josef613

if you go into task manager while it is idling, and go to processes what processes do you see that are using cpu?

nJoyo

Currently it's using up system idle process at 95% stable..

josef613

no, i meant when safari is idle, and you go to processes, what processes are using cpu power?

nJoyo

it was at 12% when it was idle

Petey7

The System Idle Process is the percentage not being used. If Safari is the only thing using processing power then Safari + System Idle Process = 100%. I'm not sure how to do it in Safari, but you may want to look to see if you have an add-ons or plug-ins, both of which will eat up RAM and processing power.

EDIT: and before I forget, Optimize Windows 7

thefabe

Looking at your specs shows your running 2 gb of DDR PC2-5300 and 2 gb of DDR PC2-6400 manufacturer unknown.
Which means the DDR PC2-6400 is probably defaulting to the DDR PC2-5300 speed, I would suggest getting another set of the DDR PC2-6400 providing your motherboard will run the Ram at that speed.
To be honest I'm surprised your not having issues using mixed matched Ram It's never a good idea to do that your just looking for problems
So providing your board can run at the DDR PC2- 6400 speed you might see a performance boost by simply matching that set of Ram, Fabe

josef613

yea, I was gonna recommend also checking to see if safari is doing updates every time you use it

nJoyo

I've done most of the tweaks, from that section, the only part i cannot perform is which requires a SSD, which i do not have if you can give me any recommendations on that, like good value for money as well as performance.

josef613

I don't know how this went from cpu to SSD

nJoyo

Lol. the other guy sent recommend me to make some alterations which could boost my PC up, Basically tweaks.

josef613

oh ok. sorry.
so you said that when it was idle, it was using 12%. have you cleaned cookies and history?
if not, try doing that, and also, try downloading CCleaner, which might help.

sygnus21

�� Quote: Originally Posted by thefabe

Looking at your specs shows your running 2 gb of DDR PC2-5300 and 2 gb of DDR PC2-6400 manufacturer unknown.
Which means the DDR PC2-6400 is probably defaulting to the DDR PC2-5300 speed, I would suggest getting another set of the DDR PC2-6400 providing your motherboard will run the Ram at that speed.
To be honest I'm surprised your not having issues using mixed matched Ram It's never a good idea to do that your just looking for problems
So providing your board can run at the DDR PC2- 6400 speed you might see a performance boost by simply matching that set of Ram, Fabe

�� Quote: Originally Posted by nJoyo

I've done most of the tweaks, from that section, the only part i cannot perform is which requires a SSD, which i do not have if you can give me any recommendations on that, like good value for money as well as performance.

�� Quote: Originally Posted by josef613

I don't know how this went from cpu to SSD

SSD makes no sense at this point. Forget that one.

As to the mixed RAM, that'll cause issues of another sort, but very unlikely the high CPU usage. However, I completely agree with the fabe and do suggest you find a matching pair. Maybe your issue now is RAM related, don't think so, but you never know.

As for the high CPU usage... Unless you are actually doing something or something is running, your CPU should be idling at or near zero. Anything above that, and you have a process stuck on run. If you've checked the task manager as suggested you should be able to find the offending program(s). If you do find them perhaps you can post a screen shot?

Later

nJoyo

Right, i was running AA3 and i was running that game at the lowest settings and the CPU was hitting 100% constant didn't let me play the game at all....AA3 isn't even a hardcore game to play...O.o just a normal game? what's the problem here?

Petey7

Just a shot in the dark here. How hot is your CPU getting? There a number of apps out there that will tell you the temps of your CPU.

josef613

I was thinking the same as petey

Wishmaster

My suggestion would be this:

Download Ccleaner and run it. (Not reg cleaner just the reg cleaner)
CCleaner - Optimization and Cleaning - Free Download

For additional clean up:
open a cmd promp as admin;
type--> cleanmgr sageset:50
check all the boxes
then type --> cleanmgr sagerun:50

this is just an advanced version of disk cleanup


Finally, Download Malwarebytes.
Malwarebytes
Update it and run it.


From what Ive seen, it appears the majority of the problem revolves around Safari.
Unless I missed something.

Try using Internet Explorer 8, and see what results you get.

There are many opinions on what browser is best to use, and they are all correct for their needs.
I have found overall that IE8 is actually the best for my needs, and my personal favorite.

Alternativley, Firefox, Chrome, and Opera is another favorite amoung many.

The point here, is simply to see if another browser resolves the issue.

nJoyo

CPU is very cool indeed it's just that when i run things like safari and Americas Army 3 is just completely laggs...every click...i was just concerned.

nJoyo

Anyways, i'M thinking to make a hole new Computer..

josef613

well, have you tried editing your startup programs?
Start>type msconfig>go to startup
What programs do you have listed?

nJoyo

Yeah, i've done thoses, it's just that my processor cannot handle too much intensive programs..

josef613

and you've tried what wishmaster said? I don't know, but i think you might need to do a clean install. I hate to say it, but there's not much more you can do.

nJoyo

Wow....I've done every step which wishmaster said. Didn't make any difference at all...

josef613

you've scanned with malwarebyte's? well, a clean install always makes a system faster, and maybe something got messed up in your previous install. just backup your files and reinstall. I think safari might be the problem, so when you reinstall, try running IE8, or Firefox, and see if that has any problem. then try installing your games and see if the problem returns. I hope that you can fix this problem, as i don't think it's the hardware.

nJoyo

Gosh, thats going to be a while then. If i do a clean install then i will have to install each and every software all again!, that could literally take 2 days at least!

josef613

Well, how many programs do you have? that could be a factor

nJoyo

Uhm... Around 25 Programs there's mostly designing softwares which i use on daily basics.