Thứ Tư, 13 tháng 7, 2016

Is it dead gpu? part 1


PavelChehoff

Hi guys.
I had few problems recently with my system. My computer (or just monitor/grapchic card [not sure]) was swithcing to power save mode on its own when all power settings are set to stay on all the time. the only way to get of the power save mode was to restart system.
Today I got new issue on top of all. Strange lines and dots acros desktop.

Whats wrong?
Thats very strange as few month ago I replaced GPU as previous one die. There was no any output signal.
I have recently change cpu and psu you can see up to date system below.
Any help will be great as I dont really know what to think.

I got:
GA-890GPA-UD3H with bios F8
AMD Phenom II x4 965
Ram:2x2Gb + 2x1Gb all Corsair
Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 5750 Vapor-X 1024MB
PSU 850W



linnemeyerhere

It sure sounds like a GPU that's going or having problems. Are all it's drivers up to date? Do you have any other GPU you could replace this with to see if the condition goes away?

Solarstarshines

For sure it is your GPU cpu is fine the Gpu will botch a screen like that

PavelChehoff

right. I can borrow my brother gpu which completely same. we bought two identical or I have gpu build on mobo. Question: why two gpu going down on one mobo within the 6 months?
I download latest CCC yesterday, no difference. So what technically could cause that problem?

linnemeyerhere

I can't answer that other than tell you that I've been right where you are. Only it's with a BFG GTX 260 OC and after going through two to get one that worked I'm beginning to get those same distortions on solid black fields. I on the other hand have no recourse as my lifetime warranty blew up when BFG backed out of the market. Break out the little violins !

PavelChehoff

so would it mean that I need to contact the gpu seller asking for replace? What fault I should state?

Aphelion

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by PavelChehoff View Post
right. I can borrow my brother gpu which completely same. we bought two identical or I have gpu build on mobo. Question: why two gpu going down on one mobo within the 6 months?
I download latest CCC yesterday, no difference. So what technically could cause that problem?
Overclocking the GPU can cause an early demise.

Overclocking the PCIe bus as well.

Ap

PavelChehoff

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Aphelion View Post
Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by PavelChehoff View Post
right. I can borrow my brother gpu which completely same. we bought two identical or I have gpu build on mobo. Question: why two gpu going down on one mobo within the 6 months?
I download latest CCC yesterday, no difference. So what technically could cause that problem?
Overclocking the GPU can cause an early demise.

Overclocking the PCIe bus as well.

Ap
Everything set as Auto. I dont think I have overclocked anything, system good enough for me with standard dimensions. but any worth to check what should i do?

linnemeyerhere

Just contact the GPU manufacturer and tell them the screen issue and they may recommend a RMA return or better yet a pay in advance return where you pay for the replacement unit and send them the faulty one for a full credit to your credit card or something similar.

rvbfan

You didn't mention what case you are using for your PC. Heat is the biggest killer of GPU's.
Try pulling the side door off the case and see if that helps. If not the card is probably toast.
If you end up getting another card try installing an extra fan inside the case infront of the
HHD and direct the air into the case or leave the case door open and see what temps are like.
I have the same card and my temps rarely go over 55c. Mind you I have good air flow.
You also need to clean the GPU fan occasionally especially if you live in a dusty area
or have your computer on carpet.

PavelChehoff

What PSU brand is it? What is the rail info?



PavelChehoff

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by rvbfan View Post
You didn't mention what case you are using for your PC. Heat is the biggest killer of GPU's.
Try pulling the side door off the case and see if that helps. If not the card is probably toast.
If you end up getting another card try installing an extra fan inside the case infront of the
HHD and direct the air into the case or leave the case door open and see what temps are like.
I have the same card and my temps rarely go over 55c. Mind you I have good air flow.
You also need to clean the GPU fan occasionally especially if you live in a dusty area
or have your computer on carpet.
Thats my temp. I tried with open case before as I thought its overheat, no difference.
I will try to reinstall windows tonight, maybe that will help.

PavelChehoff

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by parabellum View Post
What PSU brand is it? What is the rail info?
PSU is: PowerCool 80+ 850W PSU Quad 12V V2.2 rails 12cm Fan Active PFC

PavelChehoff

It might be the PSU - Powercool looks like a $15 rebadged OEM unit. Do you have another to swap it out?

rvbfan

i CAN TOOK OUT MY BROTHER PSU BUT ITS ONLY 400w OR 550w Dont remember now.

rvbfan

As long as its a quality unit from Antec, Corsair, Enermax, Seasonic etc.

Guest

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by parabellum View Post
As long as its a quality unit from Antec, Corsair, Enermax, Seasonic etc.
ahh no its unknow brand at all.

Guest

I see you have your core over clocked try setting it back to defaults and see what happens.
These are my temps a couple of minutes after playing Halo2 a notorious card warmer.
Attachment 120563
And I run my card on a 400w PSU

Guest

The temps are fine. My 6870 can hit 60 after 6 hours of gaming.

Guest

Not really talking about the temps now more about the core overclock, could be your card just doesn't like
being overclocked. Try setting it back to defaults and see what happens.

Solarstarshines

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by parabellum View Post
The temps are fine. My 6870 can hit 60 after 6 hours of gaming.

well mine goes about 54C after gaming left4dead 2 or dead rising borderlands etc it stays round 54 during after game play it is 45 to 47 c



sygnus21

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Solarstarshines View Post
Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by parabellum View Post
The temps are fine. My 6870 can hit 60 after 6 hours of gaming.

well mine goes about 54C after gaming left4dead 2 or dead rising borderlands etc it stays round 54 during after game play it is 45 to 47 c
True, but my ambient temperatures are 27 or so degrees and 60 is the maximum. It typically hovers around 55.

Solarstarshines

Your temps may be fine for now, but gaming or other GPU activities can skyrocket those temps, especially if the GPU is overclocked beyond specs.

You asked why two GPU's died in six months??? Overclocking can cause this.

If you're overclocking, you need to make sure you're using the correct values as overclocking done wrong will cause problems. Check that your PCI slots aren't running to far above 100MHz.

I run an overclocked system myself so I'm not bashing, just saying there's a right and wrong way. However I don't overclock my GPU.

My two cents.

rvbfan

well looking at the pic again why didnt you oc the memeory clock too it seems underclocked

I have mine oc'ed but yet i did it through the ccc card is stable no issues read alot about how to oc it though and from previous ati card 5770 you have to go with in the values these cards are good oc'ers you might have just gotten a dud

Further more if you dont have a back up or have any warrenty to back up this situation you will have to eat it if you got time to get it back and swap i suggest stay away from oc'ing till you find a card that actually works

To be honest that looks like a very soft oc so i don't really think it could be that bad

PavelChehoff

It really is starting to look like the core overclock. 40mhz is really quite high without some
additional cooling. Might get better results with a 5-20mhz overclock on the core and
experimenting with the memory. Usually 5-10% with the core and 10-25% on the
memory is safe. Not that I am saying it won't damage your card! Overclock at
your own risk.

rvbfan

Item : Sapphire 1024Mb ATi Radeon HD 5750 Vapor-X PCI-E VGA Card
Brand/Model : Sapphire 11164-04-20R
Graphics Engine : Radeon� HD 5750
Video Memory : DDR5 1G
Core Clock : 710 MHz
Memory Clock : 4640 MHz
Vertical Refresh Rate : 60-240Hz
Max. Display Mode : 2560 x 1600
Bus Standard : PCI-Express 2.0
RGB Out : DVI
DVI Out : DVI
TV-Out : HDMI
TV-In : No
Dual View : Yes
DirectX Compliance : DirectX 11
Software : Drivers
Weight (kg) : 3.00

According to the specs it should be allright.
Thats the specs of gpu. I dont overclock anything on pourpose but for some reason it was tick in CCC for overclocking. I am installing now something to try.

PavelChehoff

Actually you were running your core @ 740mhz according to your pic.
Hmmm.
Also your no load speeds were high.
Attachment 120586
See @ the bottom
yours were 400mhz and 900mhz I believe.

rvbfan

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by rvbfan View Post
Actually you were running your core @ 740mhz according to your pic.
Hmmm.
Also your no load speeds were high.
Attachment 120586
See @ the bottom
yours were 400mhz and 900mhz I believe.
yeah..true. well that settings were set automaticly. how do I set them lower? where it should be as I can not find anything in CCC

PavelChehoff

I suggest you download the latest drivers from ATI, then reboot into safe mode. Uninstall VGA drivers.
Reboot into safe mode, reinstall latest drivers in safe mode, then reboot.

Guest

I change PCIe settings in bios from AUTO to 100MHZ. Now CCC showing all clocks are lower. I still cant fix POWER SAVE MODE. It is still doing it fore some reason.

rvbfan

You showed screenshots of Powertune5 before. Is there a setting for "RETURN TO DEFAULT" or some such?
If so, do it. And delete the program.




PavelChehoff

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by rvbfan View Post
You showed screenshots of Powertune5 before. Is there a setting for "RETURN TO DEFAULT" or some such?
If so, do it. And delete the program.
it is easytune 6. that is utilite for gigabyte mobo and cpu. similar to CCC but for other hardware.

rvbfan

That's it! Return to defaults and upgrade hardware for better performance.

smarteyeball

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by rvbfan View Post
See @ the bottom
yours were 400mhz and 900mhz I believe.
Ticking 'Enable ATI Overdrive' raises the 2D clocks.

They could also be raised if using more than one monitor.



****

Make sure Easytune6 hasn't touched anything regarding the card (raised settings). Reset the card to stock levels in CCC.

Make sure that the video card 12v rail isn't sharing the same rail as the CPU.

ie If the hardwired CPU 8 pin power plug utilises the 12v1 rail, plug the modular 12v2 rail into the card.


(balance the load basically)




Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by rvbfan View Post
You showed screenshots of Powertune5 before. Is there a setting for "RETURN TO DEFAULT" or some such?
If so, do it. And delete the program.
It's more trouble than it's worth.

PavelChehoff

ok.. I format hdd, make a clean full windows installation, change power cables to gpu. So we will see how it goes. Will tell later if its fixed or not.

PavelChehoff

all right guys... seems its not so bad. Its running smoothly so far without any errors. I even managed to connect two monitors. Will try later to run some nice big game to ensure that its ok. I think the problem was with power rails. run for a few days, then post how it goes. Thanks a lot to everyone helping me in this issue!

Solarstarshines

Make sure you rep the solution and mark thread as fixed with the litle red triangle at the top of the screen

Also good luck to you hope you're Gpu stays working well for you take care

smarteyeball

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by PavelChehoff View Post
all right guys... seems its not so bad. Its running smoothly so far without any errors. I even managed to connect two monitors. Will try later to run some nice big game to ensure that its ok. I think the problem was with power rails. run for a few days, then post how it goes. Thanks a lot to everyone helping me in this issue!
Glad to help! Post the results.

PavelChehoff

Fingers crossed

Guest

Sorted. I tried MAFIA II 1920x1080 running great. temp not higher then 51C with 2 monitors. So all I think it was a power rail+clocking settings. I have changed some figures in bios as well. Unfortunatly I dont know a lot about bios. But Anyway. Thanks to all. Great help! xxx

linnemeyerhere

Excellent news Pavel !


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