Thứ Tư, 13 tháng 7, 2016

bfbc2 update - vietnam part 1


mickey megabyte

just started bad company 2, and a big update is downloading...

also notice on steam that they are pushing the vietnam expansion pack, for �9.99 - start playing 3 days early.

my bc2 was bought in a shop and was non-steam powered - reading the steam forums, it seems that the steam expansion will work on a non-steam base game install - all you get from steam is an unlock code that you've got to type into your EA account...all the data is in the update.

i'm going to wait for the update download to finish (it looks as if it's going to take some time ), then cross my fingers and bash the plastic on steam, and will report back.



SleeStak

downloading the 2.4 gig patch

Here is a complete list of all the fixes for PC in this update:


- Acog and Red dot scope now equippable on MK-14 and G3.

- Fixed an issue where the Bullet Tracers wouldn't display

- Fixed an issue where Play Now wouldn't work

- Added Ticket Count for Conquest end of round.

- Added the server info to the objectives screen.

check here for more info on patch (has some links to download patch also)

mickey megabyte

don't know why the updater is completely maxing out one of my cores - i've only got two

it's been going for nearly an hour, and i'm still only a third of the way through...

SleeStak

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by mickey megabyte View Post
don't know why the updater is completely maxing out one of my cores - i've only got two

it's been going for nearly an hour, and i'm still only a third of the way through...
I gave up using the updater after it crashed twice halfway through so I just downloaded from one the links and it is going much faster

simmo

Not touching Vietnam with a bargepole...its a port as far as I'm aware so miniscule maps with 32 players sucks..I barely play BC2 anymore because the maps are so small..
Waiting on BC3 which apparently is being developed with PC's in mind...that is much bigger maps so at least you wont get killed in spawn area by some sniper sitting half a map away..in theory lol

And btw we are getting 2 new maps for BC2 soonish so I read someplace..hope they are bigger lol

mickey megabyte

finally downloaded.

i bought vietnam on steam, but don't know if it will work yet.

according to this thread, both DICE and EA say it will...

Everlong

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by simmo View Post
Not touching Vietnam with a bargepole...its a port as far as I'm aware so miniscule maps with 32 players sucks..I barely play BC2 anymore because the maps are so small..
Waiting on BC3 which apparently is being developed with PC's in mind...that is much bigger maps so at least you wont get killed in spawn area by some sniper sitting half a map away..in theory lol

And btw we are getting 2 new maps for BC2 soonish so I read someplace..hope they are bigger lol
Steam says it's 4 new maps, and they were in today's update.

AstaLaVista

Guys is this just for MP or also an SP Campaign?

Do I need to install BC2 to play it or is it a standalone?

mickey megabyte

it's MP only, and needs BC2 - it's an expansion,

the new maps are HUGE - bf2 style

Everlong

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by mickey megabyte View Post
the new maps are HUGE - bf2 style
Awesome. I'll try and have a go on it soon.

Handycam

Has anyone encountered lag since the new patch? Everyone I talk to says they lag when playing online.



SlackerITGuy

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by simmo View Post
Not touching Vietnam with a bargepole...its a port as far as I'm aware so miniscule maps with 32 players sucks..I barely play BC2 anymore because the maps are so small..
Waiting on BC3 which apparently is being developed with PC's in mind...that is much bigger maps so at least you wont get killed in spawn area by some sniper sitting half a map away..in theory lol

And btw we are getting 2 new maps for BC2 soonish so I read someplace..hope they are bigger lol
Well, you better get used to it.

And BTW, BFBC2 absolutely rocks, the new maps are insanely fun (Harvest Day is by far the biggest map on BFBC2 now).

Just pre-ordered Vietnam as well .

SlackerITGuy

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Handycam View Post
Has anyone encountered lag since the new patch? Everyone I talk to says they lag when playing online.
Some lag is always expected when a new patch is being deployed (servers need to update as well).

simmo

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by SlackerITGuy View Post
Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by simmo View Post
Not touching Vietnam with a bargepole...its a port as far as I'm aware so miniscule maps with 32 players sucks..I barely play BC2 anymore because the maps are so small..
Waiting on BC3 which apparently is being developed with PC's in mind...that is much bigger maps so at least you wont get killed in spawn area by some sniper sitting half a map away..in theory lol

And btw we are getting 2 new maps for BC2 soonish so I read someplace..hope they are bigger lol
Well, you better get used to it.

And BTW, BFBC2 absolutely rocks, the new maps are insanely fun (Harvest Day is by far the biggest map on BFBC2 now).

Just pre-ordered Vietnam as well .
yup your right we did get new maps I never noticed...I just set for rush and join w/e server I can get into at the time.
MY BC2 is going thru EA tho not Steam..just tried to associate the game to steam account for zilch...do I have to reinstall this tho I just did and Steam didnt auto pick up on it when I did the install like it did with NV and Metro.
How do I get Steam to pick it up cos I dc mostly because I lose the link to EA?

stormy13

Mickey hope you guys are running all three in the rotation on your server.

And yes the three new rush maps at least are lots of fun.

P.S. for anyone that hasn't updated or is having problems with the auto-update here is at least one of the standalone installers (direct link to EA),

Code:
http://static.cdn.ea.com/dice/u/f/bfbc2/Static/BFBC2_PC_Client_R10_602574_Patch.exe

mickey megabyte

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by stormy13 View Post
Mickey hope you guys are running all three in the rotation on your server.

And yes the three new rush maps at least are lots of fun.

P.S. for anyone that hasn't updated or is having problems with the auto-update here is at least one of the standalone installers (direct link to EA),

Code:
http://static.cdn.ea.com/dice/u/f/bfbc2/Static/BFBC2_PC_Client_R10_602574_Patch.exe
i actually amicably left the clan several months ago, although i do still play there from time to time - that's why i don't wear tags any more. they only have a rush server now, whereas i generally prefer conquest - i don't like defending

i'm sure that the *Mine* guys will be running the new maps...it's always good to get something new for free.

looking forward to vietnam too...

mickey megabyte

well i'm really enjoying the new conquest maps - it's almost like a whole new game (or rather like an old game) with the wide open spaces and lots of vehicles.

can't wait to see what they've got in store for vietnam...

Everlong

Yea I'm loving the new maps. It's loads better having so much space. Though crossing a huge field in an open area leaves you as easy pickings for snipers.

Fumz

Just got through a few rounds of the new maps... and I'm loving it! So much so that I ordered Vietnam, which is cool since I'd pretty much stopped playing it had gotten so stale.

mickey megabyte

any noticing (very small) bugs though?

i keep seeing a 'reload' message on my screen, even when i've got a full clip. i think this is a new bug.

the ump-45 (and ump-sa) reloads instantly, without a reload animation. i think this is an old bug.

...or is it just me?

Fumz

The reload bug is old; thankfully I haven't seen it yet, because the "fix" was to disable tool tips, and my brother in law insists the cure is worse than the disease.

I noticed a few speedy reloads last night now that you mention it... a few times with my trusty ump, and a few times the rpg was just ready again, which I must admit came in real handy at the time,



Everlong

I wanna pre-order Vietnam, but for whatever reason the University proxy has started blocking connections to the Steam store. Pain in the arse. Need to wait for them to sort it out.

mickey megabyte

you can pre-order it at the eastore, with a 3-day headstart before the 18th december release - same deal as steam.

it doesn't have to be from steam - it will be linked to your ea account you logon with in the game.

i bought my vietnam on steam, even though my base bc2 is not steam - it was just an online shop.

stormy13

That and you already have Viet Nam as it was included in the last patch. All they do once it is released is send you the unlock code.

LiquidSnak

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by SleeStak View Post
downloading the 2.4 gig patch
Good lord.

mickey megabyte

it's more than a patch - it's a minor bug-fix, a few new maps and the whole vietnam caboodle.

don't know why they're forcing the entire download on everybody.

Fumz

Because it's easier to get people to pay for it when they realize they already have it. Sure it will really piss people off (like me), but for some reason I don't think EA or Dice give's a rat's ass about us these days...

mickey megabyte

er, ea\dice have just given us a few free maps - better than a rat's ass in my opinion.

Fumz

Yes, the 4 new maps are nice; however, let's not forget our history. Map packs 1-6 were a slap in the face... the same maps in different game modes. At the same time, let's not forget they've denied us the ability to make our own maps, which is huge.

Since they didn't pack a lot of maps into the original game, and since they wouldn't let us make our own maps, it was clearly foreseeable that people would quickly getting bored with the game... and as it turns out, that's exactly what happened. This is the worst Battlefield game ever in terms of retention. I mean it just came out, relatively speaking, and already competition is pretty much dead... not that it ever really got off the ground, but that's another topic.

Now they come out with this underhanded crap... making us dl a 2.4GB patch when the "new" maps are only ~ 20MB each. The other 2.2GB's is all Vietnam. I say that's punkass.

I am happy I was able to play some new maps, and I did have a lot of fun last night, but that hardly makes up for what EA/Dice have been up to lately.

Everlong

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by mickey megabyte View Post
you can pre-order it at the eastore, with a 3-day headstart before the 18th december release - same deal as steam.

it doesn't have to be from steam - it will be linked to your ea account you logon with in the game.

i bought my vietnam on steam, even though my base bc2 is not steam - it was just an online shop.
Thanks, I didn't think to look there.

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by stormy13 View Post
That and you already have Viet Nam as it was included in the last patch. All they do once it is released is send you the unlock code.
It's all well and good saying I have it, but I still need a place to buy it.

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Fumz View Post
Yes, the 4 new maps are nice; however, let's not forget our history. Map packs 1-6 were a slap in the face... the same maps in different game modes. At the same time, let's not forget they've denied us the ability to make our own maps, which is huge.

Since they didn't pack a lot of maps into the original game, and since they wouldn't let us make our own maps, it was clearly foreseeable that people would quickly getting bored with the game... and as it turns out, that's exactly what happened. This is the worst Battlefield game ever in terms of retention. I mean it just came out, relatively speaking, and already competition is pretty much dead... not that it ever really got off the ground, but that's another topic.

Now they come out with this underhanded crap... making us dl a 2.4GB patch when the "new" maps are only ~ 20MB each. The other 2.2GB's is all Vietnam. I say that's punkass.

I am happy I was able to play some new maps, and I did have a lot of fun last night, but that hardly makes up for what EA/Dice have been up to lately.
I wouldn't really class BC2 as part of the main franchise, considering the BC series started on console. If you are comparing it to the main Battlefield series, then I wouldn't go as far to saying it's the worst. I think Battlefield: Vietnam was a lot worse off than BC2, though each game has had their negatives.

And EA/DICE aren't the only company with this method of expansions. Mafia 2 was virtually a different game before it was released. Just before release they cut out a bunch of content, and then said they were giving this as DLC, including a free roam mode which was there in the first Mafia. What's worse is all the stuff they cut out is still there in the game.

Fumz

Battlefield is Battlefield. The monikers they add after the colon don't matter to me.

Yeah sure, Vietnam wasn't my favorite either, but at least we were able to play the game competitively; ladders and leagues were very active right up until BF2 came out... and then we started all over again.

With BC2 we don't have that. Not because we don't want to compete, but because of what EA/Dice did to the game, and their utter refusal to cater to the competitive community even in the slightest ways... demo recorder anyone?

Simple stuff like that would have gone a long way to help the larger community as well... but... again, that rat's ass thing rears its head. Clans started dropping this game a long long time ago. That's pathetic for a multiplayer franchise as strong as Battlefield.



mickey megabyte

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Fumz View Post
Battlefield is Battlefield. The monikers they add after the colon don't matter to me.
really don't agree with this statement. using the name 'battlefield' is just a marketing ploy - this bc2 is nothing like bf2. by your logic, are you saying that windows phone 7 is windows 95? you have to look at the whole name, not just focus on the first word you see.

personally i don't see bc2 as the successor to bf2 at all - that will be bf3, i do believe. i think of it more as a sort of stepping-stone between bf2 and bf3 - test and iron out frostbite engine (and other things) for the pc before they release the BIG game that i hope bf3 will be.

so it is not surprising that bc2 < bf2 in a lot of respects - it's a totally different game -they only called it battlefield for marketing/branding purposes.

i know it's kool to slag off ea/dice - but bear in mind that they are two different companies, with different agendas. also remember that dice released patch 1.5 for bf2 years after it was making any money in the shops. it was late, and it wasn't perfect (what is?), but my point is that they didn't have to do it at all. how does that compare to your rat's ass?

Golden

Mickey,

Hows the Vietnam expansion mate? You recommend it?

mickey megabyte

i bought it, but can't play for a week or so until the content gets 'unlocked'.

it's not released until the 18th, but i think us pre-orderers get to play three days early.

why do they do this? i've got the code sitting here on my pc, why can't i play it?

LiquidSnak

Try changing your system date to the 18th

If it works, I'll be blown away, but worth a shot lol.

mickey megabyte

now why didn't i think of that.

i'll have to have a word with Doc Brown...

Fumz

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by mickey megabyte View Post
Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Fumz View Post
Battlefield is Battlefield. The monikers they add after the colon don't matter to me.
really don't agree with this statement. using the name 'battlefield' is just a marketing ploy - this bc2 is nothing like bf2. by your logic, are you saying that windows phone 7 is windows 95? you have to look at the whole name, not just focus on the first word you see.

personally i don't see bc2 as the successor to bf2 at all - that will be bf3, i do believe. i think of it more as a sort of stepping-stone between bf2 and bf3 - test and iron out frostbite engine (and other things) for the pc before they release the BIG game that i hope bf3 will be.

so it is not surprising that bc2 < bf2 in a lot of respects - it's a totally different game -they only called it battlefield for marketing/branding purposes.

i know it's kool to slag off ea/dice - but bear in mind that they are two different companies, with different agendas. also remember that dice released patch 1.5 for bf2 years after it was making any money in the shops. it was late, and it wasn't perfect (what is?), but my point is that they didn't have to do it at all. how does that compare to your rat's ass?
Whether or not you agree with the statement is irrelevant. To me, Battlefield is Battlefield. Agree, disagree; it doesn't change how I feel about the series.

I'm not really going to get into your take on my logic because I'm not comparing a video game to something that is not a video game. Suffice it to say your iPhone/OS analogy is a non sequitur. A more appropriate analogy would have been Win ME to Win 7. If you had, we could have then debated whether ME was a real OS or not; whether it was a natural successor to 98 or 2k, and we might have agreed that it wasn't (a real os that it).

Whether or not the term Battlefield is just marketing is debatable. I disagree. DICE has just made another in a series... a series I might add that began before BF2... and, in my opinion, BF2 wasn't their best effort either. That honor goes to the original, 1942.

That they, DICE, decided to also market the series to a burgeoning console market doesn't change the core of the game, or the series; it's still a big vehicle centric war game... that's how it differs from CoD and Red Orchestra. Maps are still open, unlike CoD and RO, where gameplay is dicated by predetermined paths... which make me feel trapped, like a rat in a maze.

It's your opinion that BC2 is "a stepping stone to iron out Frostbite"... that's fine by me. It's my opinion that we're dealing with Frostbite because on the console Frostbite works (it was developed for the console) and consoles are where the money is at. Like it or not, we're forever stuck with it... the rat's ass thing comes in because no matter what, from here on out all our PC titles will be crap console ports. There is no way they're ever going to get Frostbite to play well with the PC, and this is something both DICE and EA have known for a long time.

Given the realities of the gaming world, any DICE created Battlefield title is just that: another in the series. Whether we can play it on the PC or the console is irrelevant: it's still a Battlefield game as long as it has some aspects of the original... and to date, they all do, from 42 to Vietnam to BF2, to Bad Company to 2142 to BC2 to BF3... and whatever they happen to push out after that with the name Battlefield.

I'm fully aware that DICE and EA are two different companies... But that doesn't mean the parent company doesn't exert influence over the child company. EA owns DICE.

Yes, DICE and EA have been getting a lot of flack lately, but given events, they've brought it all on themselves. True, they didn't have to patch BF2 with 1.5, but since they weren't putting any energy into a PC game, someone with a really nice suit who spends his day counting money probably thought it might be a good idea.

The day a Battlefield game comes out that doesn't have vehicles and that doesn't let you go anywhere you want on the map... that's the day I'll agree that Battlefield isn't Battlefield.

mickey megabyte

for what it's worth, i used windows 7 phone and windows 95 because they are software products that share the same first name. your argument seemed to be 'something that shares the same first name as something else is that something else'. maybe i misunderstood you, but there it is.

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Battlefield is Battlefield. The monikers they add after the colon don't matter to me.
any software with the same first name as another, does not make it the same thing at all. it shows that they are made by the same company. i was trying to show that they are not necessarily upgrades neither are they the next in the series.

if bc2 is meant to be bf3, then they would have called it bf3. they didn't call it bf3 because it isn't - it's a different game - call it a sub-franchise if you will.

you seem to be complaining that bc2 hasn't got things that bf2 had. windows phone 7 hasn't got things that 95 had - even though they have surface similarities, they are different products, both branded with the successful windows name.

maybe i could have chosen a smarter analogy, but it was the best i could think of at the time. - maybe it's better to think of photoshop and photoshop essentials, or outlook and outlook express. slagging off essentials becasue it doesn't have all the features of daddy-photoshop would be silly. so would saying 'photoshop is photoshop, the monikers they add don't matter.' the monikers do matter.

the devil is in the detail.

Fumz

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by mickey megabyte View Post
your argument seemed to be 'something that shares the same first name as something else is that something else'. maybe i misunderstood you, but there it is.
I wasn't making an argument, I was simply giving you my opinion as to which of the games I considered part of the series. To me, all Battlefield games are just a continuation of the series.... not in an uber-geeky, let's dissect the story line and study the sub plots way... but in a, "oh yeah i get to kill b!tches!!!" type of way. I know it might seem like I've devoted some mental energy to this, but really... not much.

I feel the same way about the Call of Duty series. I don't care if it's 1,2, Modern Warfare or World at War... to me, they're all Call of Duty. Of course they're all a bit different, if they weren't, we wouldn't bother buying them.

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by mickey megabyte View Post
... any software with the same first name as another, does not make it the same thing at all. it shows that they are made by the same company. i was trying to show that they are not necessarily upgrades neither are they the next in the series.

if bc2 is meant to be bf3, then they would have called it bf3. they didn't call it bf3 because it isn't - it's a different game - call it a sub-franchise if you will.
The hairs you're splitting are getting thinner and thinner. You must eat many carrots... however, you now seem to object to the word "series" itself. Let's face it, none of the games are a continuation, so by your logic, we can't label any of the games part of a series. No two games were anything alike, no two shared a name and no one game was a continuation of another... right. Details and devils.

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by mickey megabyte View Post
... you seem to be complaining that bc2 hasn't got things that bf2 had. windows phone 7 hasn't got things that 95 had - even though they have surface similarities, they are different products, both branded with the successful windows name.
huh? Where am I complaining BC2 doesn't have things BF2 had?

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by mickey megabyte View Post
... maybe i could have chosen a smarter analogy, but it was the best i could think of at the time. - maybe it's better to think of photoshop and photoshop essentials, or outlook and outlook express. slagging off essentials becasue it doesn't have all the features of daddy-photoshop would be silly. so would saying 'photoshop is photoshop, the monikers they add don't matter.' the monikers do matter.

the devil is in the detail.
Not only is it just my opinion, but it also has nothing to do with my point... please let it go. My "beef" was about BC2's lack of a competitive community... ie, the game doesn't have the legs the other titles in the (gasp) series had.

mickey megabyte

yeah, let's let it go.

we aren't going to change each other's minds, so further debate is fruitless.

shame that we live in different continents, we could have sorted this argument/debate out like men, on the battlefield.

Fumz

No need to let a little water get in the way of a good time. I don't mind playing there, and obviously, the wife let's me stay up late (cept when she doesn't). Game name is Fumz... add me (if the friends list isn't still borked).



mickey megabyte

cool - i'm mickey_megabyte

Everlong

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Fumz View Post
No need to let a little water get in the way of a good time. I don't mind playing there, and obviously, the wife let's me stay up late (cept when she doesn't). Game name is Fumz... add me (if the friends list isn't still borked).
I'll add you. Mine's Euphobia, but I can imagine the lag being quite bad when you're located in Cali

NotYourHero

I have the retail digi download from amazon ( was on sale for B friday). Do I buy the dlc via ea games store?

stormy13

Shouldn't matter where you by it from (despite what Steam may say), as you already have all the Viet Nam files,

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and it is just a matter of them sending you the unlock code on release day.

mickey megabyte

you should be able to buy it anywhere.

when you buy it, it asks for your ea login that you use in-game.

NotYourHero

I know but steam saves things to different folders. Also steam wont even let you buy it if you do not have BC2 purchased through them. It keeps saying to buy core game.

mickey megabyte

as i originally posted, i bought veitnam from steam the other night with no problems, yet my core game came from a non-steam disc.

...maybe they've changed it now? i would be surprised.

i don't even think there is an unlock code involved, it's tied into your ea account, and i reckon ea just unlocks it at the right time at their end.

NotYourHero

what about the specact OP? I was thinking about buying it. I ask because I'm a floater at work currently and my hours suck too much to waste money. However I have Prizerebel, and I can buy through steam easily. Does the spectact OP dlc work via redeem code or is that ok too?

Requires the base game Battlefield: Bad Company� 2 on Steam in order to play. thats what bugs me.

stormy13

This is from a couple of weeks ago on the EA UK forum,

Vietnam, the EA Store, and Steam - Electronic Arts UK Community

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Cinesias View Post
OK, I'm just looking for a definitive answer to a few of questions. I've seen half-answers that don't address the specific questions, by Zhinto and others, and would love a straight answer

Actual replies by EA/DICE employees or links to OFFICIAL answers would be nice. Telling me what your personal opinion is only wastes my time and yours.

1. If you bought BC2 through Steam, will the EA Store Vietnam pre-order work with Steam? i.e. I have the Steam version of BC2. If I pre-order Vietnam from the EA Store, will it work seamlessly, or is it going to be a huge hassle to get them to work together?

2. Will Steam be offering the same Vietnam pre-order that the EA Store is offering, with "early" access to the game...or is the early access only going to exist through the EA Store?

3. If you bought BC2 through the EA Store, will Vietnam purchased through Steam work with the EA Store version?

Thanks for official answers or official links that answer the questions above.
Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by zh1nt0 View Post
1. Yes, it is going to work



2. That is very much up to Steam and by the looks of it today, it's not likely. the pre-order deal is therefore only through the EA Store.



3. Yes
Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by EA_Velocity View Post
I can confirm the following:

The Three day exclusive head start will ONLY be available from EA Store.

Steam probably will sell the game - but not with the three day head start.

The game will work with ANY version of the game you have bought (retail, EA Store, Steam etc).

The game will be available to pre-order on EA Store in Asia and Australia in the next few days.

Hope this helps.
The only thing that has changed from what EA_Velocity said is that it can now be bought through Steam, and the early release for Steam pre-orders is the sa,e as getting it from EA.

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Requires the base game Battlefield: Bad Company� 2 on Steam in order to play. thats what bugs me.
That is because VN is not a standalone game, it is an expansion/add-on to BFBC2.

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I know but steam saves things to different folders. Also steam wont even let you buy it if you do not have BC2 purchased through them. It keeps saying to buy core game.
Then just get it through the EA Store,

Battlefield: Bad Company

NotYourHero

Ok well I checked with steam also. Everyone says its all redeem codes from steam used on the BC2 client. I already put in to get specact.



Golden

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by mickey megabyte View Post
it's not released until the 18th, but i think us pre-orderers get to play three days early.
Ahh, OK.

Everlong

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by NotYourHero View Post
what about the specact OP? I was thinking about buying it. I ask because I'm a floater at work currently and my hours suck too much to waste money. However I have Prizerebel, and I can buy through steam easily. Does the spectact OP dlc work via redeem code or is that ok too?

Requires the base game Battlefield: Bad Company� 2 on Steam in order to play. thats what bugs me.
The DLC will work through redeem code, too, but I'm not paying �20 for that. That is a ripoff.

NotYourHero

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by Everlong View Post
Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by NotYourHero View Post
what about the specact OP? I was thinking about buying it. I ask because I'm a floater at work currently and my hours suck too much to waste money. However I have Prizerebel, and I can buy through steam easily. Does the spectact OP dlc work via redeem code or is that ok too?

Requires the base game Battlefield: Bad Company� 2 on Steam in order to play. thats what bugs me.
The DLC will work through redeem code, too, but I'm not paying �20 for that. That is a ripoff.
But its 14.99 on steam and ea store. 20 bucks total for the specact too. I saw 9.99 for europe.

mickey megabyte

the specact kts are only �4 at the eastore.

NotYourHero

Looks like i been ripped off. I got the specact ops dlc but no cd key? How do I find my cd key?or rather my redeem key?

stormy13

As far as I know there is no key for speccat, it gets linked to your account when you buy it and is available the next time you fire up the game.

NotYourHero

wow thats freaking wonderful. I just payed 6 bucks for nothing. ._. I hate ea store, so I figured steam would work and give me a key to redeem it. Thats great. Money wasted!

stormy13

Have you played the game since you bought it?

NotYourHero

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Have you played the game since you bought it?
I own the retail version, not the steam version. I dont think steam can know how to apply it to the retail, and Im playing now and dont have it. Lesson learned I guess, there is no way to use retail on steam. I logged a ticket, maybe they can make it work.

stormy13

There is nothing to apply,

Battlefield: Bad Company

Quote:
Requires Battlefield Bad Company 2 to play

Your Battlefield account will be granted the SPECACT kit upgrade. No download or codes required. SPECACT kits will now be available from the kit selection screen after joining a server. *Please note that you must use the same email address as Your Battlefield account to ensure entitlement is delivered to the correct account.




NotYourHero

yea thats great. Theres no way to apply it to my ea account either. I didn't pay out of my own pocket, but it feels bad all the same. Steam will probably give me it back in the steam wallet or something. I got it through prizerebel so I didnt have to spend my own money :P

NotYourHero

someone just posted this on steam

Hello Steve, Thank you for contacting Steam Support. Unfortunately you will not be able to play the Steam version of expansions or DLC for this retail game. Steam DLC and expansions require a Steam version of the original game. In addition to purchases made through Steam, �Steam versions� include retail purchases and purchases from alternative digital distributors for games on the following list: Title: Retail CD Keys Link:

Please note that in some cases there may be CD Keys from alternative digital distributors or CD Keys that do not match the pattern shown in this article - you will not be able to activate these games on Steam. If you need assistance in returning this preorderd title, we would be happy to assist you.



no steam downloads will work on retail. I'm about to receive a steam copy from someone. Never again will I buy steam dlc for retail. They jack it up so it only works on their buys.

SlackerITGuy

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someone just posted this on steam

Hello Steve, Thank you for contacting Steam Support. Unfortunately you will not be able to play the Steam version of expansions or DLC for this retail game. Steam DLC and expansions require a Steam version of the original game. In addition to purchases made through Steam, �Steam versions� include retail purchases and purchases from alternative digital distributors for games on the following list: Title: Retail CD Keys Link:

Please note that in some cases there may be CD Keys from alternative digital distributors or CD Keys that do not match the pattern shown in this article - you will not be able to activate these games on Steam. If you need assistance in returning this preorderd title, we would be happy to assist you.



no steam downloads will work on retail. I'm about to receive a steam copy from someone. Never again will I buy steam dlc for retail. They jack it up so it only works on their buys.
Hmm that doesn't make any sense.

The Vietnam expansion is nothing more than a CD Key/code. It's gonna work with either the Steam version or the retail version (regardless of whether or not you bought the game via Steam).

All you have to do is, purchase the Expansion/DLC from EA Store or Steam, and insert the CD Key/code in-game once the 18th rolls around (just like the VIP Code when BFBC2 launched).

zh1nt0 has mentioned this a couple of times (Battlefield Community Manager).

NotYourHero

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someone just posted this on steam

Hello Steve, Thank you for contacting Steam Support. Unfortunately you will not be able to play the Steam version of expansions or DLC for this retail game. Steam DLC and expansions require a Steam version of the original game. In addition to purchases made through Steam, �Steam versions� include retail purchases and purchases from alternative digital distributors for games on the following list: Title: Retail CD Keys Link:

Please note that in some cases there may be CD Keys from alternative digital distributors or CD Keys that do not match the pattern shown in this article - you will not be able to activate these games on Steam. If you need assistance in returning this preorderd title, we would be happy to assist you.



no steam downloads will work on retail. I'm about to receive a steam copy from someone. Never again will I buy steam dlc for retail. They jack it up so it only works on their buys.
Hmm that doesn't make any sense.

The Vietnam expansion is nothing more than a CD Key/code. It's gonna work with either the Steam version or the retail version (regardless of whether or not you bought the game via Steam).

All you have to do is, purchase the Expansion/DLC from EA Store or Steam, and insert the CD Key/code in-game once the 18th rolls around (just like the VIP Code when BFBC2 launched).

zh1nt0 has mentioned this a couple of times (Battlefield Community Manager).
Thats the issue. From what I am hearing you won't be prompted with any kind of key, but rather steam will just merge it. Thats what happened with specact dlc for me. Now that I have the steam version I can see its cd key though. without the steam copy you cannot see any key for it which is dumb.

SlackerITGuy

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Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by NotYourHero View Post
someone just posted this on steam

Hello Steve, Thank you for contacting Steam Support. Unfortunately you will not be able to play the Steam version of expansions or DLC for this retail game. Steam DLC and expansions require a Steam version of the original game. In addition to purchases made through Steam, �Steam versions� include retail purchases and purchases from alternative digital distributors for games on the following list: Title: Retail CD Keys Link:

Please note that in some cases there may be CD Keys from alternative digital distributors or CD Keys that do not match the pattern shown in this article - you will not be able to activate these games on Steam. If you need assistance in returning this preorderd title, we would be happy to assist you.



no steam downloads will work on retail. I'm about to receive a steam copy from someone. Never again will I buy steam dlc for retail. They jack it up so it only works on their buys.
Hmm that doesn't make any sense.

The Vietnam expansion is nothing more than a CD Key/code. It's gonna work with either the Steam version or the retail version (regardless of whether or not you bought the game via Steam).

All you have to do is, purchase the Expansion/DLC from EA Store or Steam, and insert the CD Key/code in-game once the 18th rolls around (just like the VIP Code when BFBC2 launched).

zh1nt0 has mentioned this a couple of times (Battlefield Community Manager).
Thats the issue. From what I am hearing you won't be prompted with any kind of key, but rather steam will just merge it. Thats what happened with specact dlc for me. Now that I have the steam version I can see its cd key though. without the steam copy you cannot see any key for it which is dumb.
I don't buy it.

I think it's gonna be a 'redeem CD key/code' in-game message type of thing.

We'll see.

NotYourHero

Meh I already bought it because I have specact dlc from steam which does not work on retail. They cheat you like that. It doesn't bother me it didnt come out my own pocket.

NotYourHero

Ok heres what happens. Steam tricks you because they're assholes. Basically if you do not own the game you cannot view the key. Both the specact dlc and vietnam have redeem keys. I had to still redeem the cd key for specact on the steam version. They tell you you cannot use it on retail but if you were able to view the key without the game you could use it on retail.

FREAKING TROLLS.

Fumz

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Ok heres what happens. Steam tricks you because they're assholes. Basically if you do not own the game you cannot view the key. Both the specact dlc and vietnam have redeem keys. I had to still redeem the cd key for specact on the steam version. They tell you you cannot use it on retail but if you were able to view the key without the game you could use it on retail.

FREAKING TROLLS.
If you don't own the game it might explain why you're having issues.

NotYourHero

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Ok heres what happens. Steam tricks you because they're assholes. Basically if you do not own the game you cannot view the key. Both the specact dlc and vietnam have redeem keys. I had to still redeem the cd key for specact on the steam version. They tell you you cannot use it on retail but if you were able to view the key without the game you could use it on retail.

FREAKING TROLLS.
If you don't own the game it might explain why you're having issues.
errr what? I had retail and I bought the dlc via steam. I dont have the game on my steam so I could not view the dlc cd key. If steam had just given me the dlc cd key i wouldnt have had to buy it again. Lesson learned, steam trolls.

mickey megabyte

@NotyourHero: i'm not sure what you mean by 'steam trolls' - in modern internet usage, a 'troll' is someone who comes on a forum and starts slagging everything off. hmmm.

@everybody: anyway, i've just had some fair treatment from steam: i bought the vietnam expansion (as in my OP) from steam 2 weeks ago. at the time there was no mention of needing the base game on steam, as it was only an unlock code that i needed - i had already downloaded the game content as part of the patch. i did my research and found a couple of threads where both an EA member and a DICE man said that the expansion would work wherever you bought it or the game. so i paid up.

imagine my dissapointment yesterday, when i didn't get any unlock code sent to me from steam. further research confirmed my worst fears - buying vietnam on steam is only good if you own bc2 on steam. grrr.

so i sent an email to steam support, and this is the (edited) reply :

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Hello, Thank you for contacting Steam Support. Please note that this message is part of a mass response and addresses a number of common issues with Battlefield: Bad Company 2. We are sorry for the confusion, however the Steam version of Battlefield: Bad Company 2 Vietnam and the SPECACT Kit DLC are not compatible with versions purchased outside of Steam. The CD Keys for retail and EA Download Manager purchases of Battlefield: Bad Company 2 cannot be activated on Steam. If you were gifted Battlefield: Bad Company 2 Vietnam or the SPECACT Kit by another user on Steam, please have that user contact us in a separate Steam Support ticket using their own Steam Support account. If you were able to purchase Battlefield: Bad Company 2 Vietnam or the SPECACT Kit through the Steam Store but do not own Battlefield: Bad Company 2 on Steam, as a one-time customer service gesture we will issue you a direct refund or Steam Wallet credit. ...
sounds like good news to me.

i would advise anyone with the same problem to do the same - get onto steam support.

oh, and i'm enjoying the expansion too! back to old-skool weapons without fancy scopes...flamethrowers as well!



Everlong

Think I'll buy Vietnam sometime after Christmas when I have a bit more money. Looks good from what I've seen.

SlackerITGuy

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Think I'll buy Vietnam sometime after Christmas when I have a bit more money. Looks good from what I've seen.
It's worth the $15 mate.

The maps are drop dead gorgeous.

Although I gotta admit, the overall feel of the game (weapons handling, recoil, hit reg, etc) is EXTREMELY similar to Medal of Honor's.

Should be called Medal of Honor: Vietnam lol.

SleeStak

I am glad I decided to stay away from Steam to purchase Vietnam, I was reading yes it will work with my retail copy of BFBC2 and other posts saying no it won't work so I decided to be safe and got it from the EAstore

the maps look great and the way you play the maps and use the different guns in the Vietnam expansion is a refreshing change from the base BFBC2 game and well worth the $15 imho

SlackerITGuy

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I am glad I decided to stay away from Steam to purchase Vietnam, I was reading yes it will work with my retail copy of BFBC2 and other posts saying no it won't work so I decided to be safe and got it from the EAstore
Yup.

I also thought it would work without a problem, but after seeing that Vietnam didn't show as a standalone game on your Steam's games list, it became very clear to me that people wouldn't be able to see their CD Key/code for it (instead it appears under your BFBC2 cd key's/codes, along with your SPECACT DLC/VIP Code).

Quote�� Quote: Originally Posted by SleeStak View Post
the maps look great and the way you play the maps and use the different guns in the Vietnam expansion is a refreshing change from the base BFBC2 game and well worth the $15 imho
Agreed 100%.

mickey megabyte

got my money back from steam.

Quote:
Hello Angelo, As requested, we have processed a refund to your account.

Your confirmation number is: blahblah

Your bank or credit card issuer will return the funds to your account - please allow 3-5 business days for the funds to be posted.

Please note that we do not normally offer refunds on purchases made online. However, we are happy to make the exception for pre-ordered games if the request is received prior to the release date. Steam Subscriber Agreement
i requested a refund after release day, but they still paid up.

thank you steam.

stormy13

As well Steam should seeing as they are the one causing the problem. As far as I'm concerned there is absolutely no reason for them not to send out the unlock code to anyone that purchased through them.

P.S. Before anyone comes on and starts wondering where their stats went, it looks like the stats server is having a hissy fit,

Rank got resetted! - Electronic Arts UK Community

and the last few pages from this thread,

Do you get missing stats? - Page 15 - Electronic Arts UK Community

Handycam

I don't know if I'm still in this boat but I'm still getting lag on normal BC2 maps... It's FPS lag. I used to run the game great when I had XP and BEFORE the latest patch...

I changed the settings down to medium but still very low FPS and lag...

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